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“We’ve got to enforce our border, go to enforce our laws,” he said. “But there are people willing to do jobs Americans aren’t willing to do. Lots of Americans don’t want to pick cotton in 105 degrees, but there are people who want to put food on their family's table, and are willing to do that.

“We ought to be able to say thank you, and to welcome them. Have a plan in place that enables workers to do work Americans won’t do.

Trump has essentially said the same thing.  AP is inventing outrage where none should exist.  And yes, there is a populist sentiment that is making it more difficult to bring about a solution.  Candidate Trump himself said he would expedite the return of all illegals in granting them legal status.

AP is the one who should be condemned here - not George W. Bush.
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Trump has essentially said the same thing.  AP is inventing outrage where none should exist.  And yes, there is a populist sentiment that is making it more difficult to bring about a solution.  Candidate Trump himself said he would expedite the return of all illegals in granting them legal status.

AP is the one who should be condemned here - not George W. Bush.

 goopo

If nothing else, this thread shows how effective the tactics are.

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If nothing else, this thread shows how effective the tactics are.

Divide and conquer.... is age-old.

And yeah, it works.
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GEORGE W. BUSH In Abu Dhabi…TRASHES Trump, Embraces Illegals…Pushes Russian Meddling

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

(apologies to Abe Lincoln, or was it Mark Twain...?)

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Good point.  Just how many refugees are they taking in in Abu Dhabi??

They’re just interested in Gitmo refugees.......

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/15-detainees-released-guantanamo-article-1.2752528
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Wonderful isn't it? GW comes out of his gopher hole once Trump is elected to trash the President on foreign soil in his first year, but never had a single negative thing to say about Obama in eight years. Hmmm? Someone might think that is a bit odd?


Those Bush people are weird. They seem to be half-Republican, half-Democrat, but definitely leaning to the Democrat side. Never thought I would see the day that finds GW, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Maxine Waters, all on the same side.


I wonder when the Bush family will change Party? I'm not saying this as an insult. It is obvious that they identify much more with the Democrat ideology than with where the majority of Republicans stand. It is obvious that the entire Bush family would be much more comfortable as Democrats.


They have all drunk the communal Kool-aid. Even though I voted for both of them, the Bush family is lost to us now. Now, they belong to the other side.

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"Bush criticized President Trump’s approach to the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which protects undocumented immigrations who were brought to the U.S. as children from deportation."

protects undocumented immigrations ... illegal immigrations

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The Bush's are all world order people and can go to hell. Keep your mouth shut like you did while Obama tried to destroy our country. I wish we had never had either of them as presidents. I admire nothing about them and to think my dad who knew the old one liked them he sure wouldn't now. Glad he didn't live to see his old friend as the enemy.

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The Bush's are all world order people and can go to hell. Keep your mouth shut like you did while Obama tried to destroy our country. I wish we had never had either of them as presidents. I admire nothing about them and to think my dad who knew the old one liked them he sure wouldn't now. Glad he didn't live to see his old friend as the enemy.

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Bush senior was a horrible President.  He gave us asset forfeiture among other things.   Here is a former head of the CIA who moved to the one world govt forward significantly.

His son responded to 9/11 well which got him a lot of support.   Then he threw our kids into a meat grinder and refused to respond to critics from the left.  To the point where our kids died because they lacked the political support.

These statements are further evidence that he is beholden to the Islamists in the Middle East. 

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@raml
His son responded to 9/11 well which got him a lot of support.   Then he threw our kids into a meat grinder and refused to respond to critics from the left.  To the point where our kids died because they lacked the political support.

The head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told W that W would need more troops to occupy Iraq
and that without the extra troops Iraq would go to hell. That did W do with this information? W
fired his top general. W was and still is an idiot.

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Fake news.  First of all, W never hid his love and admiration for illegal aliens.  This is old stuff, well before Trump.  Secondly, Russia DID try to interfere with our election.  Has nothing to do with "Russian collusion" or Trump, and according to the article, Bush didn't say that it did.

Agreed.  Bush said nothing particularly controversial, and certainly nothing that was explicitly "anti-Trump".     The American economy can't grow without a healthy level of immigration.  The DACA folks should be normalized.  And the Russians are our enemies.   
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Liz Sheld: George W. Bush has some feelz

This guy is a bigger disappointment out of office than he was while he was in office. He kept his mouth shut while Obama weaponized the government and targeted conservatives. He kept is mouth shut when Obama paid Hezbollah Iran almost $2B and basically green-lighted the Iranian nuclear program. He kept his mouth shut when former AG Eric Holder ran guns to narcoterrorists in Mexico. But during the Trump administration, he's going to open his yapper. Overseas.

https://pjmedia.com/blog/liveblogevent/fridays-hot-mic-45/entry-223641/comments/

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The American economy can't grow without a healthy level of immigration.  The DACA folks should be normalized.

Same stupid thing Pelosi says.

At least your consistent Leftism continues unabated.
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Agreed.  Bush said nothing particularly controversial, and certainly nothing that was explicitly "anti-Trump".     The American economy can't grow without a healthy level of immigration.  The DACA folks should be normalized.  And the Russians are our enemies.

Just to keep the record clear, I disagree strongly with W on this point.

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Agreed.  Bush said nothing particularly controversial, and certainly nothing that was explicitly "anti-Trump".     The American economy can't grow without a healthy level of immigration.  The DACA folks should be normalized.  And the Russians are our enemies.

@Jazzhead
Our economy can grow fine without "a health level of immigration".  Granted we can use a certain amount of legal immigration but its not required.

DACA folks should earn a legal spot if they want one.   Thousands of others have been following the legal process and they should come first.

After of course we take care of the people that are citizens.
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Same stupid thing Pelosi says.

At least your consistent Leftism continues unabated.

Your lack of knowledge of basic economics is what's stupid.  The economy cannot grow on the basis of native-born Americans alone and their low birthrates.  Meanwhile, the boomers are aging and will need to be cared for - and many of us don't have the extended family or resources to do so on our own.   Immigration is absolutely essential to keep the American economy from grinding to a halt (look to Japan for an object lesson). 

As for the Dreamers,  I know what kind of pathetic excuse for a "Christian" you are.  You haven't a compassionate bone in your body and never will.   
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Your lack of knowledge of basic economics is what's stupid.  The economy cannot grow on the basis of native-born Americans alone and their low birthrates.  Meanwhile, the boomers are aging and will need to be cared for - and many of us don't have the extended family or resources to do so on our own.   Immigration is absolutely essential to keep the American economy from grinding to a halt (look to Japan for an object lesson). 

As for the Dreamers,  I know what kind of pathetic excuse for a "Christian" you are.  You haven't a compassionate bone in your body and never will.

@Jazzhead
So  your argument is we need illegals to do the distasteful jobs Americans won't.   

THENNN you say our economy can't grow without illegals.   Just how much does a picked strawberry make our economy grow?   (hint they don't pick cotton by hand anymore)

THENNNN you top it off to insult Christians once again.
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Your lack of knowledge of basic economics is what's stupid.  The economy cannot grow on the basis of native-born Americans alone and their low birthrates. 

Only if your country's core competency is buggy whip manufacture.

And of course if all we were importing were people with skills useful to the country most of us wouldn't have a problem. But thats not exactly whats happening, is it.

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Your lack of knowledge of basic economics is what's stupid.  The economy cannot grow on the basis of native-born Americans alone and their low birthrates. 

Ahhhh so you subscribe to the Merkel Program of national suicide by importing aliens to replace the existing citizenry who have no intention of assimilating into our culture.

How typically moronic and Leftist, not to mention genocidal in result.

Meanwhile, the boomers are aging and will need to be cared for - and many of us don't have the extended family or resources to do so on our own.

So you promote more anti-family and irresponsibility on the part of generations who want nothing to do with taking care of their own - but want others to do it for them. Not surprising.

Immigration is absolutely essential to keep the American economy from grinding to a halt (look to Japan for an object lesson). 

Yeah there's this phrase - LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

Something you and the Democrats do not support.

As for the Dreamers,  I know what kind of pathetic excuse for a "Christian" you are.  You haven't a compassionate bone in your body and never will.

Coming from you - again, I wear the charge as a badge of honor given your willful wickedness.
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So  your argument is we need illegals to do the distasteful jobs Americans won't. 

Did I say one damn word about illegals?   


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THENNNN you top it off to insult Christians once again.

INVAR is no flippin' Christian.   He's a charlatan obsessed with bigotry and violence.   And since he says I'm the Devil,  then allow me to live up to his billing and hope he'll join me in hell.   
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Did I say one damn word about illegals?   


INVAR is no flippin' Christian.   He's a charlatan obsessed with bigotry and violence.   And since he says I'm the Devil,  then allow me to live up to his billing and hope he'll join me in hell.

Dreamers are illegal immigrants
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INVAR is no flippin' Christian.   He's a charlatan obsessed with bigotry and violence. 

You would make the exact same claim upon the Founders and George Washington himself were this 1775 and you were listening to the arguments for liberty and the need to defend liberty by force from those imposing despotism.

And since your idea of what Constitutes a 'Christian' is basically the same thing Nancy Pelosi defines, your opinion means less than spit to me.

And since he says I'm the Devil

That again illustrates you to be a LIAR - because I have never once called you the Devil.  You are too stupid and insignificant to be put on his level. 

I said what you are - a willing pawn of Satan.

then allow me to live up to his billing and hope he'll join me in hell.

Since I do not ascribe to that particular doctrinal belief, your hope is in vain.
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@Jazzhead
So  your argument is we need illegals to do the distasteful jobs Americans won't.   

THENNN you say our economy can't grow without illegals.   Just how much does a picked strawberry make our economy grow?   (hint they don't pick cotton by hand anymore)

THENNNN you top it off to insult Christians once again.

Fascinating.  Both he and GWB make the same argument that American farmers made hundreds of years ago: that we need to import people to do the icky stuff because they don't want to pay Americans enough or improve the working conditions enough to make it worthwhile to Americans.     

Oh, and an update to both Jazz and GWB - most farmwork is now done by machines.  So, we end up importing people who may or may not find work to do.  Hmmmm....

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Fascinating.  Both he and GWB make the same argument that American farmers made hundreds of years ago: that we need to import people to do the icky stuff because they don't want to pay Americans enough or improve the working conditions enough to make it worthwhile to Americans.     

Oh, and an update to both Jazz and GWB - most farmwork is now done by machines.  So, we end up importing people who may or may not find work to do.  Hmmmm....

Americans picked those crops before the illegals invaded. As a boy in  N.H. I threw pales of hay
on to the back of a truck. As a college student in N.Y. I picked apples in the fall. The argument
that there are jobs Americans won't do is BS. Pay a decent wage and there are plenty of
Americans willing to do the work.

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W is damn lucky he was opposed by two even bigger idiots, in Gore and Kerry.   


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Unfortunately, we have an example of what can happen with lax immigration enforcement on the West coast; many people don't want that to happen to the whole US.