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Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
« on: February 06, 2018, 02:48:34 pm »
Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
By John Bowden - 02/06/18 09:28 AM EST

Attorney General Jeff Sessions says that the FBI needs a "fresh start" to win back the confidence and trust of the American people after two years of controversy surrounding the FBI's investigations of Hillary Clinton and President Trump.

In an interview with The Washington Examiner published Tuesday, Sessions was asked to respond to the resignation of deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who left the agency last month following months of criticism from Republicans.

“Well, I have believed it was important to have a fresh start at the FBI, and actually, it was in my letter to the president when I recommended Comey's removal," Sessions said. "I used the words, 'fresh start,' and the FBI director is Chris Wray, a very talented, smart, capable leader."

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Re: Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2018, 03:03:45 pm »
Congress created the monster in 1908.  There were trepidations back then of a nationalized police force being against the idea of our government’s founding.  Only Congress can truly ‘fix’ it, but they never will.

https://www.fbi.gov/history/history-publications-reports/the-birth-of-the-federal-bureau-of-investigation

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Re: Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2018, 03:04:33 pm »
Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
By John Bowden - 02/06/18 09:28 AM EST

Attorney General Jeff Sessions says that the FBI needs a "fresh start" to win back the confidence and trust of the American people after two years of controversy surrounding the FBI's investigations of Hillary Clinton and President Trump.

In an interview with The Washington Examiner published Tuesday, Sessions was asked to respond to the resignation of deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who left the agency last month following months of criticism from Republicans.

“Well, I have believed it was important to have a fresh start at the FBI, and actually, it was in my letter to the president when I recommended Comey's removal," Sessions said. "I used the words, 'fresh start,' and the FBI director is Chris Wray, a very talented, smart, capable leader."

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No fresh start at the FBI possible without first establishing why one is necessary. People need to know what went wrong or it'll just happen again.

Appoint a special council now.
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Re: Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2018, 03:08:41 pm »
We need a fresh start with a new director of the DOJ too. 

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Re: Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2018, 03:17:10 pm »
Translation:  No need to drain that swamp.... since.... we gaters are perfectly happy to slosh around the way we've been sloshing around. 

Nice of Jeff to TRY to pull the FBI's collective fanny out of the fire.  But.... that's not his job.  Far from it, in fact.
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Re: Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2018, 03:18:21 pm »
Congress created the monster in 1908.  There were trepidations back then of a nationalized police force being against the idea of our government’s founding.  Only Congress can truly ‘fix’ it, but they never will.

The US marshalls are a nationalized police force and where created right after the Nation's founding.

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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2018, 03:57:06 pm »
The US marshalls are a nationalized police force and where created right after the Nation's founding.

They weren’t a police force, in the traditional sense.  Their scope was very limited, mostly to judicial process serving and fugitive apprehension.  The idea of a national investigation unit was not well received at the time.  Unsurprisingly, Teddy Roosevelt, a progressive, was highly in favor of it.

Lobbying against the bill, Roosevelt wrote to Speaker Joseph Cannon, asking that the problematic sections be killed. Regarding the Secret Service provision he argued that it would “materially interfere with the administration of justice and will benefit only one class of people—and that is the criminal class.”  In a handwritten post-script, he added, “there is no more foolish outcry than this against “spies”; only criminals need fear our detectives.”

That last sentence has come back to bite.



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Re: Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2018, 06:43:37 pm »
There may be a few lower tier democrats get sent to prison for their parts in this fiasco but I sincerely doubt any of the top tier, Madam Clinton, Comey, Obama, etc., will have to sully their hands on prison walls.  That is, however, the only way the FBI has a chance of getting integrity back - prove they are more loyal to America than to the democrat party and the swamp.  But I don't see that happening since I'm sure both political parties have dirt mortars ready to fire at each other when needed.  BIG dirt mortars which would end the political ambitions of whomever they are aimed.  So the higher ups will decide to kick the can down the road until they are no longer in danger.

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Re: Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2018, 06:50:44 pm »
There may be a few lower tier democrats get sent to prison for their parts in this fiasco but I sincerely doubt any of the top tier, Madam Clinton, Comey, Obama, etc., will have to sully their hands on prison walls.  That is, however, the only way the FBI has a chance of getting integrity back - prove they are more loyal to America than to the democrat party and the swamp.  But I don't see that happening since I'm sure both political parties have dirt mortars ready to fire at each other when needed.  BIG dirt mortars which would end the political ambitions of whomever they are aimed.  So the higher ups will decide to kick the can down the road until they are no longer in danger.

I suspect that you are correct there.  There really is two separate and different justice systems in this nation now.   One for the elitists, who are above the law, and one for us, the ones whose taxes pay their salaries.  A really skewed and fubared situation.  And something I'm sure the founders are roiling over in their graves over (among other things)..... since they did their level best to ensure that would not happen re: the Constitution.  But they didn't figure on so many opponents of America ruling and ruining from within, I guess.  And perhaps the level of intelligence back then was higher.... and the founders never expected people to be so stupid as to vote that "enemy within" into high office.  Sad, that.


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Re: Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2018, 06:57:44 pm »
So Sessions calls for a Mulligan for the FBI.

How Deep State Swampish of him.

And sooooo typical of this Beast that lurks there at Mordor on the Potomac.

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Re: Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2018, 09:00:51 pm »
The US marshalls are a nationalized police force and where created right after the Nation's founding.

I understand Obama is now hiding out.  Maybe the Marshalls can put him in WitSec.
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2018, 10:16:07 pm »
We need a fresh start with a new director of the DOJ too.

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Re: Sessions calls for ‘fresh start’ for FBI
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2018, 10:17:13 pm »
Screw Sessions. He is a loser and a degenerate.

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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2018, 10:18:59 pm »
No fresh start at the FBI possible without first establishing why one is necessary. People need to know what went wrong or it'll just happen again.

Appoint a special council now.

That is exactly what needs to happen.

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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2018, 10:20:01 pm »
That is exactly what needs to happen.

I absolutely agree! And not one who has any vested interest in the outcome.
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2018, 10:28:17 pm »
From what has been seen by the public, Sessions has been an abject disappointment.

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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2018, 10:32:19 pm »
Screw Sessions. He is a loser and a degenerate.

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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2018, 04:18:23 am »
They were laughing at him on FOX tonight.  Consensus was that hiring Wray isn’t cleaning house.  He needs to bring in somebody from outside the FBI to do it.

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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2018, 01:30:42 am »
They were laughing at him on FOX tonight.  Consensus was that hiring Wray isn’t cleaning house.  He needs to bring in somebody from outside the FBI to do it.

Sessions is no laughing matter.  He needs to be FIRED yesterday and put someone in his place that is willing and capable of handling the matter with the utmost integrity and start putting people in place to clean house.
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2018, 01:57:53 am »
Sessions is no laughing matter.  He needs to be FIRED yesterday and put someone in his place that is willing and capable of handling the matter with the utmost integrity and start putting people in place to clean house.

Strzok and Page were unhappy that he was picked.  Several nasty comments about him in the texts.

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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2018, 02:56:01 am »
Strzok and Page were unhappy that he was picked.  Several nasty comments about him in the texts.

Maybe I'm just crazy but I'm still holding our hope for Sessions to do the right thing after the IG report comes down.
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2018, 08:27:29 am »
Maybe I'm just crazy but I'm still holding our hope for Sessions to do the right thing after the IG report comes down.

So am I and yes I think we are crazy.

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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2018, 08:47:49 am »
How do you have a "fresh start" if the corruption/criminality isn't fully exposed and prosecuted to clean the slate? Anything less is just burying it from public view.

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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2018, 07:16:06 am »
@anubias

Why did you delete your last post with the link to the interesting story about IG and Sessions?

It offered some hopeful perspective.
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2018, 03:17:37 pm »
@anubias

Why did you delete your last post with the link to the interesting story about IG and Sessions?

It offered some hopeful perspective.

Here it is. 

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/09/big-picture-question-how-do-we-know/

@DB
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