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Jerry Nadler’s Leaked Rebuttal of the Nunes Memo Is Very Weak
National Review, Feb 4, 2018, Andrew C. McCarthy

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I won’t get sidetracked by the fact that Nadler’s “Dear Democratic Colleague” letter has been “exclusively obtained” by NBC News — i.e., that it was leaked to the media, whereas the so-called Nunes memo was provided to committee Democrats before publication so they could seek changes. The Nunes memo had to be subjected to a rules-based process because of classified-information issues. The Nadler memo does not seem to contain classified information; it just responds to what the Republicans have produced, which is now public record.

I don’t agree with Jerry Nadler’s politics, but he is an able lawyer. What surprises me about his retort is how weak it is.

He posits four points, the last two of which are strictly political red meat. Of the other two, one provides an inaccurate explanation of the probable-cause standard in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA); the other is an ill-conceived argument about Christopher Steele’s credibility. The latter provides a welcome opportunity to confront a wayward theory — which I’ll call “vicarious credibility” — that has been vigorously argued by apologists for the FBI and Justice Department’s handling of the Steele dossier.

Let’s take the easy stuff first — Nadler’s last two contentions.



Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456093/jerrold-nadler-memo-rebuttal-weak-unpersuasive

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Re: Jerry Nadler’s Leaked Rebuttal of the Nunes Memo Is Very Weak
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2018, 04:03:00 am »
@Oceander

You should be interested in this as we were discussing these exact points on another thread.

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Re: Jerry Nadler’s Leaked Rebuttal of the Nunes Memo Is Very Weak
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2018, 04:04:41 am »
While we all know, except a few here, that the FISA warrant was a pile of BS, and apparently the Dem’s rebuttal is as well, the media will be trumpeting this BS 24-7 and the average Demwit will swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

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Re: Jerry Nadler’s Leaked Rebuttal of the Nunes Memo Is Very Weak
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2018, 04:11:09 am »
@Oceander

You should be interested in this as we were discussing these exact points on another thread.

Agreed.  It’s a good article.  Thanks for posting it. 

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Re: Jerry Nadler’s Leaked Rebuttal of the Nunes Memo Is Very Weak
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2018, 05:04:33 am »
Agreed.  It’s a good article.  Thanks for posting it. 

@Right_in_Virginia is the one that posted it.  I just thought you might enjoy it.
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Re: Jerry Nadler’s Leaked Rebuttal of the Nunes Memo Is Very Weak
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2018, 06:26:49 am »
BTTT

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Re: Jerry Nadler’s Leaked Rebuttal of the Nunes Memo Is Very Weak
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2018, 06:59:47 am »
This one should be read by everyone here.

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Re: Jerry Nadler’s Leaked Rebuttal of the Nunes Memo Is Very Weak
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2018, 01:27:48 pm »
Here's the NBC spin on the leaked Nadler memo.  McCarthy's analysis posted above is thorough and worth the read....

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Democratic rebuttal calls Nunes memo ‘deliberately misleading’
NBC News, Feb 3, 2018, Mike Memoli

NBC News has exclusively obtained a six-page rebuttal to the Nunes memo from Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York, the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, which was to be circulated to all House Democrats on Saturday.

The rebuttal focuses on four key points having to do with the legal underpinnings of the GOP-produced document:

•That Nunes’ memo fails to demonstrate that the government lacked enough evidence beyond a dossier from former British spy Christopher Steele to obtain a FISA warrant on Page.
•That Steele’s expertise on Russia and organized crime would have outweighed any concerns a FISA court would have had about the funding of Steele’s work by partisan actors — funding sources that Steele may not have even known about.
•That Nunes’ memo “provides no credible basis whatsoever” for removing Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller.
•That Nunes’ memo shows that Republicans “are now part and parcel to an organized effort to obstruct” Mueller’s probe.


More: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/democratic-rebuttal-calls-nunes-memo-deliberately-misleading-n844426


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Re: Jerry Nadler’s Leaked Rebuttal of the Nunes Memo Is Very Weak
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2018, 02:37:25 pm »
Here's the NBC spin on the leaked Nadler memo.  McCarthy's analysis posted above is thorough and worth the read....

•That Nunes’ memo fails to demonstrate that the government lacked enough evidence beyond a dossier from former British spy Christopher Steele to obtain a FISA warrant on Page.


So Republicans should have to prove that something doesn't exist?  Seriously?
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Re: Jerry Nadler’s Leaked Rebuttal of the Nunes Memo Is Very Weak
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2018, 03:04:32 pm »
Leaked. Of course.