BREAKING: FISA Memo Released (Full Memo Here)

[mrclose]

http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/02/house-intel-memo-fisa-abuse-just-released-read/

[Lando Lincoln]

Thank you.  Yep, it's out.

https://imgur.com/a/0mI5T

[Sanguine]

Luckily it's embedded because both sites that I have gone to are overloaded.

[austingirl]

No FISA warrant would have been obtained without dossier. Doesn't that say it all?

[ABX]

Bump....

Reading now but so far the biggest takeaway is that the Clinton camp was the one actually colluding with foreign players, doing what they were accusing, and the FBI getting involved in influencing elections based on that illegal collusion.

When we have time, it may be good to draw out a timeline to put all this together.

[ABX]

https://www.axios.com/read-nunes-memo-fbi-doj-fisa-mueller-7fb8bcb7-1f18-4294-aa95-628d2f67bcdf.html

[Concerned]

I’d like to see what other evidence besides the dossier was actually used for these FISA warrants.  If corruption is truly evident at the DOJ/FBI, it seems like a DOJ and/or FBI IG investigation or an investigation by Congress should have been ordered ASAP.  I wonder why Nunes isn’t pushing for that rather than a public release?   Pure partisanship IMO. 

I look forward to when Trump can get his “only the best people” in the Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General, and FBI Director positions.  Oh wait……../s/

[Bigun]

No FISA warrant would have been obtained without dossier. Doesn't that say it all?

Pretty much! Along with the fact that the petitioners for the warrant KNEW the source of the material and concealed it from the FISA Court judge!

[austingirl]

No FISA warrant would have been obtained without dossier. Doesn't that say it all?

This is per McCabe's own testimony before the intelligence committee in December 2017.

[ABX]

The other issue I'm reading in this that is even a bit more disturbing than what's being discussed in the media is that the FISA court was being used for this, even though this is not under the purview of FISA - the warrant is to surveille IS citizens, not foreign agents. This should have gone through, at the very least, federal courts for a warrant, not the FISA panel.

Ie, FISA was used against citizens. One fear civil libertarians have been screaming for a while.

[endicom]

"It is hard to understand why Adam Schiff has his knickers so fully bunched up over this. Unless he knows that this is only the tip of the iceberg. Hmmm.": http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/02/breaking-the-memo-is-out.php


Only the tip of the iceberg. And now the appetite is whetted for more.

[ABX]

Make a note of 2(a) of FISA law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1805

[ABX]

"It is hard to understand why Adam Schiff has his knickers so fully bunched up over this. Unless he knows that this is only the tip of the iceberg. Hmmm.": http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/02/breaking-the-memo-is-out.php


Only the tip of the iceberg. And now the appetite is whetted for more.

That the DNC and Clinton camps were colliding with foreign agents should have them worry based on the own narrative they've written for the past year.

Bias isn't the damming part here.

[Bigun]

"It is hard to understand why Adam Schiff has his knickers so fully bunched up over this. Unless he knows that this is only the tip of the iceberg. Hmmm.": http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/02/breaking-the-memo-is-out.php


Only the tip of the iceberg. And now the appetite is whetted for more.

There is DEFINITELY more to this than what we are seeing in this memo.  Which BTW, is quite enough by itself.

[SirLinksALot]

OK, I had a quick look at it.... tell me, what's in that memo that those who are active in this forum don't already  know?

I want to be "shocked" by something new but there's nothing new that I don't already know or suspect.

[austingirl]

Wolfie on now- Release of disputed memo- released in direct defiance of FBI and DOJ- a partisan Republic memo   

Perez DNC statement "The people deserve to know about Trump's Russian collusion." 

[Bigun]

Make a note of 2(a) of FISA law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1805

(2) on the basis of the facts submitted by the applicant there is probable cause to believe that—
(A) the target of the electronic surveillance is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power: Provided, That no United States person may be considered a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States; and...

[Bigun]

OK, I had a quick look at it.... tell me, what's in that memo that those who are active in this forum don't already  know?

I want to be "shocked" by something new but there's nothing new that I don't already know or suspect.

Nothing much except for the little news that the warrant for Carter Page was renewed three times each supposedly require separate justifications.

[austingirl]

Nancy Shumer et al are calling the release of the memo obstruction of justice, said firing Rosenstein and Mueller would bring on a Constitutional Crisis like Saturday night massacre.

[mystery-ak]

OK, I had a quick look at it.... tell me, what's in that memo that those who are active in this forum don't already  know?

I want to be "shocked" by something new but there's nothing new that I don't already know or suspect.

Nothing if you watch or listen to Hannity..lol

[ABX]

OK, I had a quick look at it.... tell me, what's in that memo that those who are active in this forum don't already  know?

I want to be "shocked" by something new but there's nothing new that I don't already know or suspect.

The big thing I think is the direct, improper use of the FISA system against U.S. citizens in violation of the law I linked above.

Then, showing collusion between the DNC and foreign agents (high crime based on the narrative they have pushed for the past year).

[jmyrlefuller]

OK, I had a quick look at it.... tell me, what's in that memo that those who are active in this forum don't already  know?

I want to be "shocked" by something new but there's nothing new that I don't already know or suspect.

The only question I have is that why were the Democrats, FBI and DoJ so bent on keeping this under wraps when the material facts therein have been known for a while now?

Besides, if the memo shows FBI wrongdoing, I don't give a flip what the FBI thinks. They did wrong, they don't get a say.

[INVAR]

"It is hard to understand why Adam Schiff has his knickers so fully bunched up over this. Unless he knows that this is only the tip of the iceberg. Hmmm.": http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/02/breaking-the-memo-is-out.php


Only the tip of the iceberg. And now the appetite is whetted for more.

Methinks we will go hungry on that score.

The Oligarchy is not going to permit any real potential danger risk their absolute rule.  Lots of people will die before they allow that happen, and they don't give a shit if that number is in the thousands or more.

[ABX]

A bit more from the FISA law: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1804. Note section 6.

U.S. Code › Title 50 › Chapter 36 › Subchapter I › § 1804
50 U.S. Code § 1804 - Applications for court orders
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(a) Submission by Federal officer; approval of Attorney General; contentsEach application for an order approving electronic surveillance under this subchapter shall be made by a Federal officer in writing upon oath or affirmation to a judge having jurisdiction under section 1803 of this title. Each application shall require the approval of the Attorney General based upon his finding that it satisfies the criteria and requirements of such application as set forth in this subchapter. It shall include—
(1) the identity of the Federal officer making the application;
(2) the identity, if known, or a description of the specific target of the electronic surveillance;
(3) a statement of the facts and circumstances relied upon by the applicant to justify his belief that—
(A) the target of the electronic surveillance is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power; and
(B) each of the facilities or places at which the electronic surveillance is directed is being used, or is about to be used, by a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power;
(4) a statement of the proposed minimization procedures;
(5) a description of the nature of the information sought and the type of communications or activities to be subjected to the surveillance;
(6) a certification or certifications by the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, an executive branch official or officials designated by the President from among those executive officers employed in the area of national security or defense and appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate, or the Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, if designated by the President as a certifying official

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Who was the official who signed off on this based on this requirement? (Rhetorical question obviously).
That person is responsible ultimately.

[truth_seeker]

Nancy Shumer et al are calling the release of the memo obstruction of justice, said firing Rosenstein and Mueller would bring on a Constitutional Crisis like Saturday night massacre.

Or they could simply resign (in disgrace), for having presided over ongoing criminal and fraudulent behavior; known to them or should have been known to them--from having performed reasonable due diligence.

At this stage if Mueller and Rosenstein didn't know all about these misdeeds and more, they are truly incompetent.