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Melania would not have known about Stormy and it happened four months after Melania had his baby.
She could go along with what he did before they married, but this one hit her in the face.  This is likely why she is not traveling with him.  She also has to wonder how many more did he have after marrying her.

I heard the preacher guy today say Christians were giving him a pass, forgiving him since it was several years ago and he has changed.  No, he hasn't but maybe his years are keeping him from that behavior now, or maybe not.
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Too bad @ConservativeGranny .... I want to know if your virtue signaling is genuine.  So, does Ronnie having to marry his pregnant mistress matter to you?


   Good to know @Right_in_Virginia that the 'virtue signaling' as you call it, is witnessed when you Trumpers feel TBR is moving away from the President AND his party and bitch about Ronald Reagan in the Masthead and GOP in the domain name and how we are disparaging that honor and here you are.   It's Shameful really to prop your statue up like this.
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You really should get some new material.   :laugh:

No need...Donnie keeps the old stuff fresh.
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Melania would not have known about Stormy and it happened four months after Melania had his baby.
She could go along with what he did before they married, but this one hit her in the face.  This is likely why she is not traveling with him.  She also has to wonder how many more did he have after marrying her.

I heard the preacher guy today say Christians were giving him a pass, forgiving him since it was several years ago and he has changed.  No, he hasn't but maybe his years are keeping him from that behavior now, or maybe not.

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Well since Jesus has already paid the price for Trumps sin I guess I'll worry about something else.   Like keeping the dems from destroying this country
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SOME of us just hate adultery and licentiousness, no matter WHO it is who harms others with these debaucheries.



I rent to a Reverend. When I see him to pick up the check I ask him how the God business is after he asks me how the rental  business is. It's our running thing. Couple month ago he went off about the God business being bad because parishioners have become increasingly judgmental over the years instead of Christian like and end up scaring other away from joining the church. He said it's the reason numbers in the pew are dropping at all the churches.

I bring up this story because after reading your irrational anger at Donny over ALLEGEDLY having a affair TWELVE YEARS AGO I can see his point. You more than likely roll into some large half empty building every Sunday to fondle some holy relics and sing some Jesus songs about peace and love and then angrily gossip about unsubstantiated and inconsequential stories like this Donny one night stand stuff that doesn't effect your life in the very least.

When I see the Rev next month I will have to tell him I have seen tangible evidence of what he speaks.

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Well since Jesus has already paid the price for Trumps sin I guess I'll worry about something else.   Like keeping the dems from destroying this country

I don't care what he does, but this has to be hurting Melania.  She is finding out what she married and she can't do anything about it as long as he is president.
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Well since Jesus has already paid the price for Trumps sin ...

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https://www.biola.edu/blogs/good-book-blog/2017/can-there-be-forgiveness-without-repentance-part-1

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I don't care what he does, but this has to be hurting Melania.  She is finding out what she married and she can't do anything about it as long as he is president.

LOL. That's patently absurd. Is she some sort of potted plant? She can head back up to 5th Avenue any time she likes......yet she stays. Could it be that this go nowhere story is total bullshit that only malcontents and spinsters find juicy?

BTW I don't believe the First Lady is some sort of prudish shrinking violet. Just a hunch....


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You know that if there were any truth to the smears, they would have come out years ago.

The left HATED Reagan, and they would certainly have revealed infidelity if it existed.

It is only leftist Trumpists who now feel the need to slander Reagan.

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Too bad @ConservativeGranny .... I want to know if your virtue signaling is genuine.  So, does Ronnie having to marry his pregnant mistress matter to you?
@Right-in-Virginia I don't know what "virtue signaling" is so I cannot speak to that. All I can say is that everything I say is "genuine". I speak my mind. I'm neither Rep or Dem so I have no party loyalty to worry about.  My opinion about Donald Trump hasn't changed since he first threw his hat into the ring unlike some others who just became fans when he won. I don't know that what has been said about President Reagan is true. If he got his girlfriend pregnant and then married her I would say he did the right thing. No that would not bother me if that was the case as long as he remained true and faithful to her. Comparing Trump to Reagan is like comparing rotten apples and oranges. They have nothing in common except they both were democrats at one time and were presidents under the Republican party.

But we aren't talking about Reagan in this thread. He is dead and gone. If you want to why don't you try starting a completely new topic and discuss it there? We are discussing why virtue is important in our leaders. I know that Trump supporters like to draw attention away from anything that doesn't make Trump look good. Christians used to believe virtue and following God's laws were important and way above politics. If virtue is old-fashioned and dead then our Constitution is as well. For without virtue it is not worth the paper it is written on and we can no longer be considered a Christian country. You think we would have learned this after Clinton and Obama but I guess not. Immorality doesn't belong to a political party. When we continue to elect immoral men and fail to demand morality in our leaders our leaders will become increasingly immoral. Considering the cesspool that our government has become I'd say the proof is in the pudding.

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Along with the mulligan, Trump also received an assortment of Slovene curse words.  The Secret Service will probably change her code name from Trophy to Lorena.
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I rent to a Reverend. When I see him to pick up the check I ask him how the God business is after he asks me how the rental  business is. It's our running thing. Couple month ago he went off about the God business being bad because parishioners have become increasingly judgmental over the years instead of Christian like and end up scaring other away from joining the church. He said it's the reason numbers in the pew are dropping at all the churches.

I bring up this story because after reading your irrational anger at Donny over ALLEGEDLY having a affair TWELVE YEARS AGO I can see his point. You more than likely roll into some large half empty building every Sunday to fondle some holy relics and sing some Jesus songs about peace and love and then angrily gossip about unsubstantiated and inconsequential stories like this Donny one night stand stuff that doesn't effect your life in the very least.

When I see the Rev next month I will have to tell him I have seen tangible evidence of what he speaks.

I was going to make a crack about Rev Sharpton or Rev Jackson, but then I noticed you were claiming to have picked up the check and I realized you were just trolling.
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I have friends who spent the last eight years bombarding me with obscure scripture to prove their theory that Obama was the Anti-Christ. They have become strong Trump supporters and give Trump a "mulligan" for trashing every moral belief they formally held,  while trying to convince me of the error in my ways in refusing to support him....

My response is .... who knew the Anti-Christ would have orange hair... :shrug:

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@Right-in-Virginia I don't know what "virtue signaling" is so I cannot speak to that.

It's a new twist on projection that is used now more often as a silencing technique rather than those who self-identify themselves as better than thou (i.e.:'virtue signal' that one was a better citizen of the earth because they recycle and drive a Prius).    Now the term is used to ridicule and shame into silence, anyone discussing morality or applying morality to specific cultural events and situations.  It's the new way to smear someone discussing moral principles as having wrong motives.

The Trump Faithful have taken to adopting its use like fish to water.

Christians used to believe virtue and following God's laws were important and way above politics. If virtue is old-fashioned and dead then our Constitution is as well. For without virtue it is not worth the paper it is written on and we can no longer be considered a Christian country. You think we would have learned this after Clinton and Obama but I guess not. Immorality doesn't belong to a political party. When we continue to elect immoral men and fail to demand morality in our leaders our leaders will become increasingly immoral. Considering the cesspool that our government has become I'd say the proof is in the pudding.

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I was going to make a crack about Rev Sharpton or Rev Jackson, but then I noticed you were claiming to have picked up the check and I realized you were just trolling.

LOL. You knucklehead.

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Too bad @ConservativeGranny .... I want to know if your virtue signaling is genuine.  So, does Ronnie having to marry his pregnant mistress matter to you?

So that’s what a single or divorced man’s girlfriend or fiancée is called now – his mistress?  Good to know. / s
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I rent to a Reverend. When I see him to pick up the check I ask him how the God business is after he asks me how the rental  business is. It's our running thing. Couple month ago he went off about the God business being bad because parishioners have become increasingly judgmental over the years instead of Christian like and end up scaring other away from joining the church. He said it's the reason numbers in the pew are dropping at all the churches.

I bring up this story because after reading your irrational anger at Donny over ALLEGEDLY having a affair TWELVE YEARS AGO I can see his point. You more than likely roll into some large half empty building every Sunday to fondle some holy relics and sing some Jesus songs about peace and love and then angrily gossip about unsubstantiated and inconsequential stories like this Donny one night stand stuff that doesn't effect your life in the very least.

When I see the Rev next month I will have to tell him I have seen tangible evidence of what he speaks.

First point, Frank.  There is absolutely nothing "irrational" about what I think about adultery.  It has been what I have thought about adultery my entire life, and what, until quite recently, every other conservative Christian thought about it.

The principle of marital fidelity isn't original with "Trump haters" (to use a tired old and inaccurate ad hominem).  It is original with God, Himself and is clear in His Word.

The damage infidelity (even one time) does to a marriage is well documented.  So-called modern reshaping of moral law doesn't change the harm it does, nor the lack of trustworthiness in those who are serial adulterers.

The problem is that the once true-to-Scripture "evangelical" Church has changed...... and not for the better.

You may believe that sex outside of marriage with other married women is no big deal (this particular affair may be "alleged," but the truth is that Trump himself has bragged about his unrepentant immorality, so that is the issue), but the fact some in the Evangelical Church are now saying that serial adultery is no big deal.

And what is making the issue worse, is that those who are supposed to stand for God's Law, have made the choice that POLITICS trumps BIBLICAL truth.

No previous President has been given a "Mulligan" for marital infidelity.

The fact that Trump is being given one is a serious problem.  Because no matter what your political desires are.........

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The path we've been traveling over the past two years, with all the mulligans given to Trump for the sake of "winning!", where is it leading this country?

So long as the Wall is built, and the economy continues to grow, are we required (as most Trumpers seem to believe) to avert our eyes to everything else regarding Mr. Trump?
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The path we've been traveling over the past two years, with all the mulligans given to Trump for the sake of "winning!", where is it leading this country?


To the inauguration of a President Kardashian.
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The path we've been traveling over the past two years, with all the mulligans given to Trump for the sake of "winning!", where is it leading this country?

So long as the Wall is built, and the economy continues to grow, are we required (as most Trumpers seem to believe) to avert our eyes to everything else regarding Mr. Trump?

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Its not leading us anywhere.  We've permitted and encouraged immoral politicians for decades.   

But lets say we don't support him.   What are the options?   He's still the President.   Should we not support his move to pull money from the UN?  To speak out for the right to life organizations?    To cut taxes?
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No previous President has been given a "Mulligan" for marital infidelity.




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But we aren't talking about Reagan in this thread. He is dead and gone. ...

We are talking about Presidential mulligans @ConservativeGranny  Reagan was a President who at the time lived a rather unconventional life for a "conservative" ... Democrat, union leader, actor, late night commercial king, a Hollywood player, divorced, a pregnant girlfriend, the way he treated his children .... not the stuff of evangelical teachings.  To this day you're giving him a mulligan.

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... I know that Trump supporters like to draw attention away from anything that doesn't make Trump look good.

Respectfully, you know nothing of Trump supporters .... except what you've twisted to fit your rather narrow worldview.

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Christians used to believe virtue and following God's laws were important and way above politics. If virtue is old-fashioned and dead then our Constitution is as well. For without virtue it is not worth the paper it is written on and we can no longer be considered a Christian country.

There is one oath I want an elected politician to uphold above all others:  to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.   How a couple lives their marital vows is not up to me or my concern.  It really shouldn't be your concern either.

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You think we would have learned this after Clinton and Obama but I guess not. Immorality doesn't belong to a political party. When we continue to elect immoral men and fail to demand morality in our leaders our leaders will become increasingly immoral. Considering the cesspool that our government has become I'd say the proof is in the pudding. 

Our government is a cesspool because of corruption ... a breach of the oath I cited above .... not because of sex.  Jimmy Carter, the staunchest example of the moral Christian man was a complete eff-up in office and the world, especially the Middle East, is still paying the price.

I'd rather a flawed man who fights for the nation he loves over a religious missionary.  Given a choice, I'll choose the flawed doer.  Like Churchill.  Like Reagan.  Like Trump.



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So long as the Wall is built, and the economy continues to grow, are we required (as most Trumpers seem to believe) to avert our eyes to everything else regarding Mr. Trump?

The answer to that we are told is YES.  All the matters is what he DOES to assuage their demands on specific issues, and even if Trump reneges on those things he promised, the fact he is causing the media and the Left to have fits of rage absolves him of any personal peccadilloes he has.

IOWs, it's okay when OUR guy does what we bashed Clinton and Obama for doing.
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Please give citations of conservatives or evangelicals giving a mulligan to JFK for his infidelity.

Methinks you're pulling a red herring?
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