Tony Perkins: Trump gets a 'mulligan' over Stormy Daniels from Evangelicals

[ABX]

It's not, but he knows they probably have some sort of paper trail on the payment.  He was dumb enough to leave his own name on the LLC as a concerned party.  It should have been outsourced to another attorney.  If he goes into denials about it, that opens questions about his other statements concerning the encounter.

IF it is true (big If at this point), he is going to have a big issue with campaign finance law.

It always is the cover-up, not the crime that gets you (not that having an affair is a crime but the cover up could be).

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@Suppressed
Where's the hypocrisy?   Everyone knows Trump is on his third marriage with infidelity being a major factor.

@driftdiver
Where's the criticism of him, the way a Democrat would be excoriated?

[edpc]

IF it is true (big If at this point), he is going to have a big issue with campaign finance law.

It always is the cover-up, not the crime that gets you (not that having an affair is a crime but the cover up could be).

I really don't think it's that big of an if, at this point.  Daniels gave a detailed interview in 2011, when the idea of Trump's candidacy was a novel one, as it was in 2000.  The denial 'letter' posted online with her signature has all the weight and seriousness of a 'will you go with me - yes/no - circle one' junior high school note.

WSJ has the documentation of Cohen setting up the Delaware LLC, plus sourcing of the transaction details.  It's close enough to being accurate where Cohen won't address it.  The missteps in handling it wouldn't be at all surprising, given the bonehead moves other personal Trump attorneys like Sekulow and Dowd have pulled.

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... given the bonehead moves other personal Trump attorneys like Sekulow and Dowd have pulled.

Only the best!

[Right_in_Virginia]

I wonder if the morally outraged here would have supported Ronald Reagan knowing he married his mistress only because she was pregnant.....   

[WingNot]

Only the best!

You really should get some new material.   

[edpc]

You really should get some new material.   

And a material girl?

[WingNot]

And a material girl?

Edpc, Don't Preach.

[Neverdul]

I wonder if the morally outraged here would have supported Ronald Reagan knowing he married his mistress only because she was pregnant.....   

@Right_in_Virginia

Me, morally outraged over Trump peccadillos?

No. Not I, because I certainly knew who he was and how he conducted his “affairs” as they had been no secret before he ran for POTUS. Hell he wrote and bragged of in at least one of his books, bedding married women, some of them the wives of business associates or friends, talked about his sex life on a regular basis on the Howard Stern Show, claimed that the “last days of disco” when HIV first became known was his “own personal Vietnam, “grab them by the pus…..,very publicly cheated on his first wife, likely on his second and was on a date with another woman the first time he met and then immediately hit on Melania.  We, (including I would certainly hope Melania), all knew or should have known what we were getting into with Trump.

But there is I think some reason to point out the hypocrisy of an alleged pastor, a supposed man of God saying that Trump gets a “mulligan” for cheating on his wife, what 3 months after his son was born, with a porn star.

How many “mulligans” does Trump get, how many “mulligans” would Perkins give me?

Oh, and for Ronald Reagan and Nancy's shot gun wedding, I know of a couple of people, including a friend of mine who got purged and banned from TOS during the great Guiliani Purge of saying just that.  They were morally outraged that someone could ever besmearch Saint Ronnie.

[ConservativeGranny]

A man that will lie and commit adultery after taking sacred vows of fidelity will lie and cheat to anyone. Funny how Trump supporters think that he is always being truthful and honest with them.

It is sort of like the woman who has an affair with a married man thinking that she is so special he would never do the same thing to her. Not a whole lot of logical thinking there.

Trump has committed adultery numerous times. Cheated on three wives. He has  bragged about committing adultery in his books. And his supporters don't think he wouldn't think twice about stabbing them in the back as well?

Moral character means something. A man like Donald Trump doesn't suddenly become honest and trustworthy because he was rewarded by being elected to the highest office in the land and has an "R" after his name.

If Trump wants to ask God for forgiveness and God wants to grant it to them that is between Trump and God but I am not required to forgive him. Nor am I required to be naive enough to think he will make a fine POTUS.

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
George Washington

[ConservativeGranny]

I wonder if the morally outraged here would have supported Ronald Reagan knowing he married his mistress only because she was pregnant.....   

We aren't talking about Reagan we are talking about Donald Trump. And yes, if I had been informed that Reagan was a lying philanderer and serial cheater I would not have voted for him. This is the first I've heard of anything like this about him. Whataboutism is a very obvious form of misdirection. As my mom used to say "If your friend jumped off a cliff would you jump off too?"

"Human rights can only be assured among a virtuous people. The general government . . . can never be in danger of degenerating into a monarchy, an oligarchy, an aristocracy, or any despotic or oppresive form so long as there is any virtue in the body of the people."
George Washington

[goodwithagun]

I'm waiting for Trump to actually shoot someone on 5th Avenue to test his theory.

That’s not what Trump meant, he was just playing eighth dementional chess, or something.

[musiclady]

A man that will lie and commit adultery after taking sacred vows of fidelity will lie and cheat to anyone. Funny how Trump supporters think that he is always being truthful and honest with them.

It is sort of like the woman who has an affair with a married man thinking that she is so special he would never do the same thing to her. Not a whole lot of logical thinking there.

Trump has committed adultery numerous times. Cheated on three wives. He has  bragged about committing adultery in his books. And his supporters don't think he wouldn't think twice about stabbing them in the back as well?

Moral character means something. A man like Donald Trump doesn't suddenly become honest and trustworthy because he was rewarded by being elected to the highest office in the land and has an "R" after his name.

If Trump wants to ask God for forgiveness and God wants to grant it to them that is between Trump and God but I am not required to forgive him. Nor am I required to be naive enough to think he will make a fine POTUS.

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
George Washington

BRAVA!!!!

[INVAR]

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness -- these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles."
- George Washington

Trump supporters today will emphatically tell you that George Washington was wrong and that this is a new era of new morality and the old morality is dead.

Which is how you get the justification emphasis that just because person cheats on their wives and has illicit sex outside of marriage, has no bearing on how they will govern the country.

And of course the belief that their anointed will never lie or cheat on them, and the hordes that just plain don't care - as long as Trump gives them what they want.

[musiclady]

Had Trump been a Democrat the Evangelicals will be screaming bloody murder and damn him to hell.

Yes.   That's why the term "Evangelical" has been rendered meaningless.

If so-called conservative Christians don't care about morality and adultery because the guy has the policies we want, they are not looking at Scripture.   They are looking at their own selfish goals.

[Frank Cannon]

@driftdiver
Where's the criticism of him, the way a Democrat would be excoriated?

Where would that happen? I've never seen it.

BTW all you Trump haters wrapping yourself up in some sort of bizarre idea that prior to Trump, Presidents were moral compasses..... Nan Britton.

[Neverdul]

... And yes, if I had been informed that Reagan was a lying philanderer and serial cheater I would not have voted for him. This is the first I've heard of anything like this about him....

@ConservativeGranny

Ronald and Nancy married in 1952 and supposedly Nancy was pregnant with Patti when she and Ronald married, Pattie being born less than 8 months later.  But he had been divorced from Jane Wyman since 1949 and didn’t start dating Nancy until after his divorce.  They certainly wouldn’t have been the first couple to have ever been in such a situation, I have a couple of very happily and long time married relatives and a very close friend whose 1st children were born “early” shall we say.

But I do not know of any infidelities or philandering on Reagan’s part in either of his marriages, or on Jane’s or Nancy’s part for that matter. 

Interestingly part of the reason is first marriage broke up was because Jane Wyman resented his involvement in the Screen Actors Guild union and his political ambitions and Wyman, who was a registered Republican, also stated that their break-up was due to a difference in politics (Reagan was still a Democrat at the time). But they remained friends until his death with Wyman voting for Reagan in both of his runs and, upon his death, saying "America has lost a great president and a great, kind, and gentle man.”

[musiclady]

We aren't talking about Reagan we are talking about Donald Trump. And yes, if I had been informed that Reagan was a lying philanderer and serial cheater I would not have voted for him. This is the first I've heard of anything like this about him. Whataboutism is a very obvious form of misdirection. As my mom used to say "If your friend jumped off a cliff would you jump off too?"

"Human rights can only be assured among a virtuous people. The general government . . . can never be in danger of degenerating into a monarchy, an oligarchy, an aristocracy, or any despotic or oppresive form so long as there is any virtue in the body of the people."
George Washington

Some people are so devoted that they need to slander EVERY other person on earth in order to keep their god in his place in their hearts.

It is utterly disgusting that Reagan should be smeared to make Donald's utter depravity somehow acceptable.

Disgusting.

@ConservativeGranny

[musiclady]

@ConservativeGranny

Ronald and Nancy married in 1952 and supposedly Nancy was pregnant with Patti when she and Ronald married, Pattie being born less than 8 months later.  But he had been divorced from Jane Wyman since 1949 and didn’t start dating Nancy until after his divorce.  They certainly wouldn’t have been the first couple to have ever been in such a situation, I have a couple of very happily and long time married relatives and a very close friend whose 1st children were born “early” shall we say.

But I do not know of any infidelities or philandering on Reagan’s part in either of his marriages, or on Jane’s or Nancy’s part for that matter. 

Interestingly part of the reason is first marriage broke up was because Jane Wyman resented his involvement in the Screen Actors Guild union and his political ambitions and Wyman, who was a registered Republican, also stated that their break-up was due to a difference in politics (Reagan was still a Democrat at the time). But they remained friends until his death with Wyman voting for Reagan in both of his runs and, upon his death, saying "America has lost a great president and a great, kind, and gentle man.”

You know that if there were any truth to the smears, they would have come out years ago.

The left HATED Reagan, and they would certainly have revealed infidelity if it existed.

It is only leftist Trumpists who now feel the need to slander Reagan.

@Neverdul

[Right_in_Virginia]

We aren't talking about Reagan we are talking about Donald Trump.

Too bad @ConservativeGranny .... I want to know if your virtue signaling is genuine.  So, does Ronnie having to marry his pregnant mistress matter to you?

[driftdiver]

@driftdiver
Where's the criticism of him, the way a Democrat would be excoriated?

@Suppressed

Where is it?  Back in the primaries.   I fought against him then but now it's a waste of time.   Especially when it's the left pushing the narrative

[goodwithagun]

having to marry his pregnant mistress matter to you?

Having to marry? Like being “punished with a baby”? On another note, why haven’t you answered my prolife questions I’ve asked on other threads? You know, the questions I asked after you posted a Trump’s more prolife than Jesus post on a thread that had nothing to do with abortion.

[Right_in_Virginia]

You know that if there were any truth to the smears, they would have come out years ago. 

This is well know has been since his days in Hollywood.
 
In fact, Ronald, the actor, was also known as a *prolific* womanizer (when married, too). 

Let me know what your Pastor says about Ronnie getting a mulligan.

[musiclady]

Where would that happen? I've never seen it.

BTW all you Trump haters wrapping yourself up in some sort of bizarre idea that prior to Trump, Presidents were moral compasses..... Nan Britton.

ROFLOL!!  NO one is saying that prior to Trump Presidents were moral compasses.

You just make things up so you can throw around the stupid ad hominem "Trump haters."

SOME of us just hate adultery and licentiousness, no matter WHO it is who harms others with these debaucheries.

FDR, JFK, WJC, or DJT..........

[Right_in_Virginia]

Having to marry? Like being “punished with a baby”?

No, like having to marry her or see his political career destroyed before it could begin.