True Legends: The UnHoly See (youtube covers a lot of ExoVaticana type facts 5 JUL 2016--prepping fo

[Quix]

https://vimeo.com/ondemand/theunholysee/173544216


I think this may be one of the more important youtubes I've ever linked to. I think the content is well researched and prophetic in the sense that they have dug out facts documenting where the Vatican, the oligarchy, etc are headed.


It is incredibly sobering and outrageous all at the same time,  imho.


Would love for informed folks to discuss it vigorously.


But I'm aware enough that there are other priorities ... cell phones etc. /sar

[Victoria33]

@Quix

I wrote a reply but first I want to know this:
Do you think the Vatican, the Catholic Church, has outer space aliens and giants under the ground in the Vatican?  Do you think the Vatican is evil?

[Quix]

Thanks for your kind reply.

@Quix

I wrote a reply but first I want to know this:

Do you think the Vatican, the Catholic Church, has outer space aliens and giants under the ground in the Vatican?  Do you think the Vatican is evil?

1. I don't, per se, KNOW any of the following. I do believe that a fairly convincing case has been made by half a dozen to a dozen very diligent and high integrity researchers that there must be some level of "fire" from all the "smoke" uncovered.

2. I don't know if there are ET/fallen angel/critters buried in the Vatican, or not. Given Corrado Balducci's comments before his death . . . you can research his name or Paolo _____ forgot her last name Harris? Anyway--I heard her speak in person and have read a number of things by Balducci. He was certainly in the know at the upper levels of the Vatican for many decades. So, I don't  know if such critters are buried in the Vatican, or not. I DO BELIEVE that the Vatican has been in 'discussion' with such entities--evidently for quite a long time--at least a decade or 3. i.e some elements of the Vatican--usually with Papal instructions and/or approval.

3. Giants? I do believe that the Vatican has tangible proof of the existence of very large giants from diverse areas of the world. They likely have bones if not complete skeletons.

4. Vatican evil? That's a more difficult question. It's a large bureaucracy. I would imagine there are sincere Godly Christians in it as well as satan worshipers. There are too many testimonies of the latter from very high ranking officials to dismiss it out of hand. There have been reports by close assistants of various Popes commenting about the buried satan worship in various corners of the Vatican in different periods of time--including the present.

5. Time will tell. Certainly all that has been hidden will be revealed.

6. I do believe that satan has undoubtedly targeted the Vatican for infestation long ago. It's tooooo influential a bureaucracy to escape his attention and strategies. How successful he's been in such efforts is very hard to guess. I'm convinced he's been somewhat successful. I don't know to what degree with what % of upper ranking leaders. I don't believe he has 100% control of the whole institution. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the current Pope is far too much under the dark lord's influence.

[Cyber Liberty]

I'm not a big fan of YouTube presentations because I can't hear them and CC is usually pretty bad, so I'm just going to watch this thread, if you don't mind.  From what I've seen, the RCC has drifted in and out the dark places over its very long history.

[Quix]

I'm not a big fan of YouTube presentations because I can't hear them and CC is usually pretty bad, so I'm just going to watch this thread, if you don't mind.  From what I've seen, the RCC has drifted in and out the dark places over its very long history.

Understand.

Good point.

However, the CCaptions on this video aren't bad, imho.

[Quix]

I think this well researched and documented video answers your question about the Vatican and the giants:

https://vimeo.com/ondemand/holocaustofgiants?autoplay=1

However, you may have to purchase it to view it. I already have a Vimeo membership.

The researchers spend a lot of time on Sardinia . . . and natives there testify extensively about the "thousands" of large giants' bones and tombs being unearthed over the decades. The giants were 11-15' tall, IIRC. Some were 10' tall.

The consensus is, on Sardinia, that the island was so full of large giants' bones--that there must still be 100's of them still buried on the island.

One sarcophagus held a giant dressed in a black garment. They didn't give a measurement but compared to the artwork of the normal men beside the sarcophagus, the giant looked to be 12-15' long.

The government arrived on the scene and took pictures. They sealed up the passage way. They took away the bones of the giants.

Rumors of sacrifice and cannibalism abound from ancient times there.

. . .
 

The Roman church was thickly involved in retrieving the thousands of giants' bones and secreting them away.

The film crew was monitored by officials--once with a helicopter.

Some of the families had long handed down generational narratives even from the time of the giants.

A lot of the main points are common knowledge on Sardinia among the older inhabitants.

Steve Quayle has documented extensively in Peru and elsewhere how the RCC deliberately built churches exactly on top of much older spiritual sites--particularly those involving giants and tunnel entrances under the sites with tunnels running for miles in diverse directions.

In some cases, ancient swords 3-4' long were put inside some of the giants' heads just to measure them. The heads enclosed the whole sword.

There's a lot of first person testimony from older Sardinians of those who dug up the giants. They persistently noted that they and sometimes their families were threatened to keep them silent about the giants.

The femurs of most were about 3-4' long--just the femur. Fingers were 6-8" long.

They would carry the artifacts and skeletons into the church and put them on a large table. Every day they would do so. The next day, all the bones from the previous day's digging were totally missing.

Some of those who dug up the giants insist that the RCC and the '{specific secret society}'s were routinely involved in taking all the evidence of the giants away and insisting on secrecy.

At minute 1:15, the native older digger is particularly informative with lots of details about the artifacts.

I found every one of the native Sardinians' testimonies, narratives to be 100% convincing and authentic.


@Quix

I wrote a reply but first I want to know this:
Do you think the Vatican, the Catholic Church, has outer space aliens and giants under the ground in the Vatican?  Do you think the Vatican is evil?

[Quix]

In the 3rd True Legends video about the giants--at about minute 1:30, it not a bit before, the narrative gets into conclusive evidence that the giants are related to those that Joshua in Genesis fought.

Phoenicians left a record near Gibraltar in Morocco referencing the battle of the giants with Joshua.

There are rituals to this day on Sardinia mimicking the 'passing of the children through the fire' only in this later case, it 'merely' involves teens jumping over a largish bonfire.

Some Sardinians to this day display genetics from the giants--6 toes etc.

There's also a lot of contention from  diverse evidence and cultures around the world--that the giants are coming back.

1:48:04--

Steve Quayle asserts that:

Some years ago, I was told by a high ranking Special Ops General, that there are ancient giants hidden deep underground in a state of suspended animation. He told me that even though they are in stasis, their brainwaves are broadcasting with such potency, that it would melt your mind if you got too close. This information was later confirmed by . . . {Russian researcher, optical surgeon}

My paraphrase . . . A Buddhist monk took the world renowned optical surgeon Dr Muldeshef (sp?) to a cave in the Hymelian mountains with a giant in suspended animation/stasis. Dr M started to approach the giant and the monk had to pull him back as the Dr had crossed over the line anyway because otherwise, his mind would have been turned to mush. His head began to hurt severely.


THE GIANTS ARE RETURNING

ISAIAH 13:4 . . . The LORD {Yehovah} of Heaven's Armies has called this army together. They come from distant countries, from beyond the farthest horizons. They are the Lord's weapons to carry out His anger. With them He will destroy the whole land. . . .

From the video--evidently an older translation:

"Lift up a standard on the mountain of the plain, exalt the voice of them, beckon with the hand, open the gates, ye rulers. . . . "

Steve Quayle seems to believe that such "gates" refer to 'star gates' interdimensional transition sites.

He asserts that Native American Shamans in the SW are still in contact with such demonized entities as relate to the giants of old--and that the Shamans can open up such portals.

{Qx: I know from my personal discussions with Native Americans that such Shaman must literally sacrifice a child that's closely related to them in order to gain such powers. And they do.}

Steve Quayle goes on at some length to document from The Bible and cultures around the world the expectation that THE GIANTS ARE RETURNING in these END TIMES.

I'm 100% convinced that he is 100% accurate about that. There have been some modern day prophetic sources affirming such things.

One recent one--a young boy--asserted that WW3 will be super horrible--but NOT NEAR AS HORRIBLE as the battle following with the fallen angels & giants setting out to destroy mankind.

[Quix]

Tom Horn discloses being on Coast to Coast one night . . . and after the show wherein he discussed such things and speculated that we may have gone into Iraq primarily to extract some exotic tech related to the giants etc. . . . he immediately gets an email from an Iraq museum curator who affirms that his speculation was exactly right.


He ends up seeing a lot of photos from the museum of our Marines going from huge crate to huge crate under the museum and finally finding what they were looking for it . . . and then carrying the crates up and off and evidently back to the USA.


Steve Quayle notes that there's a huge black market in getting DNA from such giants--the oligarchy wants to recreate their strength etc. etc. etc.



I hope folks wake up soon. The times are a changin' beyond what most folks imagine in their worst nightmares.

[Gefn]

Bookmarking. I'm not feeling good at the moment. Will comment tomorrow @Quix

Thanks for the ping. 

[Quix]

Bookmarking. I'm not feeling good at the moment. Will comment tomorrow @Quix

Thanks for the ping. 

Prayers that you feel better soon.

Thanks for your kind reply.

Will look forward to your comments, whenever you feel up to it.

[Gefn]

Prayers that you feel better soon.

Thanks for your kind reply.

Will look forward to your comments, whenever you feel up to it.

It's my stomach. Just vomiting. Complications from my surgery. Not a big deal.

[Quix]

It's my stomach. Just vomiting. Complications from my surgery. Not a big deal.

Welllllllll, health and wholeness to you, in any case. I pray you have a speedy and pleasant recovery.

[Victoria33]

@Quix
@mystery-ak
@CatherineofAragon

“True Legends: The Unholy See: The Vatican Knows All The Secrets”

From Marcella:
Good to talk to you yesterday, but you and I are opposite ends of the planet about these things:

When the intro to a film shows an alien from outer space, a pyramid with an eye, a dark form encased in a hooded robe, and the title being, “THE UNHOLY SEE”, (with red (supposed to be blood?) making the “UN”, and I have to pay to see it, I’m not doing it.

I am a Catholic, I know Priests personally and taught one English.  Catholic Priests are normal men – I have said before our present Priest was an Army Sniper and graduated from Texas A&M.  Now, you can go back in history and current history and tell of bad things Priests did – that is because they are human beings and humans screw up all the time.  Priests are not holy, they are not God. 

When the Catholic Church started in Italy/The Vatican, the normal men who ran it, made rules.  Those are human rules, not necessarily God’s rules, so humans screw up.  In one phase of the Catholic Church, it became more government than church. Those Priests/Popes back then were consumed with gaining wealth.  Eventually, government split from the church and the church was religion, not government anymore.  Some Priests do bad things because they are human, not gods.  As an example, when the Baptist Church or any other type church, started, normal men ran it and made rules.  Those are human rules, not necessarily God’s rules.  Some Baptist preachers, other type church’s preachers, do bad things because they are human, not gods.

There is nothing mystic, no devil worship, no aliens from outer space or giants, living under the ground at the Vatican or any other place under the earth such as under the ice of the Antarctic, which you believe.  The Vatican has no reason to search for the bones of giants, but if they did, there is nothing wrong with that.  Bones are bones and giants did live in the world.  A student from my high school, became a priest and did training at the Vatican.  He never saw outer space aliens or hidden bodies that no one was supposed to know about and he didn’t find any UFOs being hidden in the Vatican.

Because the Catholic Church has been around for hundreds of years, it gets blamed for being a secret group up to no good.  I mean, if a man wears a robe, he must be up to no good.  Each color of robe represents the time the church is in.  During the Advent season, approaching the birth of Christ, the Pastor/Priest wears a purple robe.  See, it has nothing to do with the devil or some secret ritual.   Our Christmas season starts on Christmas Eve and the Pastor/Priest wears a white or gold robe.  Robes are just robes – not satan material.

The Catholic Church is built on the love of God/Jesus Christ/The Holy Spirit.  To try to damn the Catholic Church as an evil entity, is to try to damn all of us who gather there to make this a better world.

GIANTS:  Yes, there were giants described in the Bible, in the time of Noah and later:
Genesis 6
“Sons of God and Women
6  When people began being numerous on earth, and daughters had been born to them, 2 the sons of God, looking at the women, saw how beautiful they were and married as many of them as they chose. 3 Yahweh said, ‘My spirit cannot be indefinitely responsible for human beings, who are only flesh; let the time allowed each be a hundred and twenty years.’ 4 The Nephilim were on earth in those days (and even afterwards) when the sons of God resorted to the women, and had children by them. These were the heroes of days gone by, men of renown.”

Numbers 33
Moses sent an expedition to the promised land to survey the people and the land:
"The Expedition’s Report
25 After forty days they returned from reconnoitering the country. 26 Making their way to Moses, Aaron and the whole community of Israel, in the desert of Paran, at Kadesh, they made their report to them and the whole community, and displayed the country’s produce. 27 This was the report they gave: ‘We made our way into the country where you sent us. It does indeed flow with milk and honey; here is what it produces. 28 At the same time, its inhabitants are a powerful people; the towns are fortified and very big; yes, and we saw the Anakim there. 29 The Amalekites occupy the Negeb area, the Hittites, Jebusites and Amorites the highlands, and the Canaanites the sea coast and the banks of the Jordan.’ 30 Caleb called the people round Moses to silence and then said, ‘We must march in immediately and take it; we are certainly able to conquer it.’ 31 But the men who had been with him said, ‘We cannot attack these people; they are stronger than we are.’ 32 And they began disparaging to the Israelites the country they had reconnoitered, saying, ‘The country we have been to reconnoiter is a country that devours its inhabitants. All the people we saw there were of enormous size. 33 We saw giants there too (the Anakim, descended from the Giants). We felt like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.’ “

Quayle made “True Legends – Episode 3: Holocaust of Giants”
In this one he says the Vatican is preparing to welcome aliens from other planets.
I have talked to you and you told me you have never been in a Catholic Church.  Well, it’s full of people like me and Bob and our church bulletin we get every week, doesn’t speak of aliens going to visit our church.  If the Vatican had them, surely, they would send them around to their churches as speakers.

The man who makes these films, Stephen Quayle, is a nutcase, who makes films in order to make money, and that is it.  His film, The “UNHOLY SEE”, I spoke of above,  is made to attack the Catholic Church as evil with satan in control of the Catholic Church.  If you believe that crap, how about the one he made about Hitler, which you also believe:

“TRUE LEGANDS In Empire Beneath the Ice", author Stephen Quayle reveals why most of what you learned about World War II and the defeat of Nazi Germany is wrong. You’ll discover:
Why the suppressed evidence proves Adolf Hitler didn’t die before Germany surrendered during WWII, and how he eluded capture. How Nazi SS members, scientists, and soldiers escaped with Hitler to create colonies in other parts of the world to continue their monstrous research.

How, using advanced technology, Nazi saucers defeated the US military — long after WWII was supposedly over. Why the US space program was mostly a sham, and why the “UFOs” that started appearing around the world in the late 1940s were (and still are) most likely flown by Nazi pilots.

How key government, manufacturing, pharmaceutical, financial leaders, and institutions helped Hitler come into power, and facilitated the preservation of Nazi wealth and power after WWII. Why today’s world is secretly controlled by a malevolent shadow government and entire populations are being surreptitiously brainwashed. How ancient stargates have been duplicated to open portals into spiritual and demonic universes. Why those controlling our planet have laid the groundwork for a takeover by a dictator who could best be described as the Antichrist of the Bible.

“Empire Beneath the Ice” exposes the dangers our world faces, and will arm you with the tools you need to counter these unspeakable, secret evils.”

Spend a lot of money for his above film, and he is going to tell you how to be safe from these “unspeakable, secret evils”.  These are “unspeakable, secret evils”, but he is going to tell you what these secret evils are – they won’t be secret evils anymore because you will know them if you spend the money for the film.

Believe what you want, Quix, but I reject Quayle’s nonsense films.

[Quix]

Sorry the bold distinctions got mucked up. No energy to fix it tonight. Will see tomorrow.

THANKS MUCH for your kind reply. And certainly for the substantive chat with you both. Loved hearing  your voices. I'll respond below in bold to make it easier to distinguish. Thanks

@Quix
@mystery-ak
@CatherineofAragon

“True Legends: The Unholy See: The Vatican Knows All The Secrets”

From Marcella:
Good to talk to you yesterday, but you and I are opposite ends of the planet about these things:

I nope  not QUITE opposite. LOL. A satanist would be opposite, imho.

When the intro to a film shows an alien from outer space, a pyramid with an eye, a dark form encased in a hooded robe, and the title being, “THE UNHOLY SEE”, (with red (supposed to be blood?) making the “UN”, and I have to pay to see it, I’m not doing it.

I can understand that. That hindrance should be solved soonish. I'd really like you to share your clinicalized perceptions of first hand witness testimony on the part of several first hand witnesses on several of the  critical issues.

I am a Catholic, I know Priests personally and taught one English.  Catholic Priests are normal men – I have said before our present Priest was an Army Sniper and graduated from Texas A&M.  Now, you can go back in history and current history and tell of bad things Priests did – that is because they are human beings and humans screw up all the time.  Priests are not holy, they are not God. 

Amen to that. I think we 100% agree on that score. But that's not the issue. Actually, imho, it's rather irrelevant to my main concerns.

When the Catholic Church started in Italy/The Vatican, the normal men who ran it, made rules.  Those are human rules, not necessarily God’s rules, so humans screw up.  In one phase of the Catholic Church, it became more government than church. Those Priests/Popes back then were consumed with gaining wealth.  Eventually, government split from the church and the church was religion, not government anymore.  Some Priests do bad things because they are human, not gods.  As an example, when the Baptist Church or any other type church, started, normal men ran it and made rules.  Those are human rules, not necessarily God’s rules.  Some Baptist preachers, other type church’s preachers, do bad things because they are human, not gods.

Again, I 100% agree. NO argument on that score. Though I may be a bit harder on "spiritual" leaders than you. LOL.

There is nothing mystic, no devil worship, no aliens from outer space or giants, living under the ground at the Vatican or any other place under the earth such as under the ice of the Antarctic, which you believe. 

Ahhhhhhhhhh . . . you make a VERY emphatic statement as though your assertion is 1,000% fact. And, you seem to presume/assume that the Vatican is a unified homogeneous whole. It is actually far from that--regardless of protestations to the contrary and references to the Catechism. Even the Catechism is not a unified, homogeneous whole. I have a copy and have examined some of it but far from all of it.


I don't think you have even reviewed SUFFICIENT evidence--even merely the very solid evidence and witness testimonies--to be justifiably anywhere remotely near such an emphatic conclusion. I believe a lot of what I say or I wouldn't say it. Some relatively few things I believe 100%. Others, I believe 99.95%. Others I believe 95%, 90%, 80-99%, 70-85%, 55-70% `etc.

Some  of these issues I've studied 10's of thousands of pages worth of evidence on for over ~55 years. I  don't merely read something or even several things and jump to the conclusion that what I've read is accurate, factual, true--even merely because it fits a paradigm I've already arrived at.

And, actually, your above emphatic assertion is merely inaccurate and sadly, horribly so.

A big part of the problem with such a huge institution as the RCC is the size, age and complexity of it. To say that the Vatican doesn't do almost anything is bound to be inaccurate because it is highly likely that some--at least tiny corner of it--DOES DO XYZ. And, sadly, in the case of priests and young boys smack in the middle of the Vatican as well as a number of diocese--the emphatic assertions on the part of millions of faithful that the RCC COULD NOT be remotely the least bit guilty of such--turned out to be false.

The evidence of satanic rituals conducted on Vatican properties has been, imho, very emphatically proven. I say that because:

1. The high rank of the officials confirming, testifying to such.
2. The number of decades in faithful service to the Vatican on the part of said officials.

3. The multiplicity of diverse high official (and other) testimonies to such goings on.

4. The convincing quality of; multiplicity of; corroborating evidence of; witness/victim testimonies.

imho, it would take incredibly naive--way out on an unbelievable fantasy limb--'faith' to DISbelieve all THAT evidence.

As I've noted--you simply have not been exposed to all the evidence I have. I firmly believe that if you had been, your perspective would be at least significantly different.

imho, your assumptions are running away with you again for you to soooo emphatically insist that the Vatican has no reason etc. to have anything to do with ET's etc. etc. etc. Sadly, imho, you are simply wrong because you have not been exposed to all the evidence I have.


But let's do a bit of a thought experiment for a little bit.


1. We KNOW from Scripture that these END TIMES WILL include a GREAT DECEPTION soooooo great, that were it possible, the very elect, the saved saints of God alive at this time--would be deceived themselves. Evidently there will be some Holy Spirit assist in their not being deceived, IF they are walking close to God and alert to Holy Spirit's communications, leadings in  their life.


2. It is LOGICAL, predictable that satan, considering that the RCC is such a large, influential and old ostensibly Christian institution would wage a full court press to insure that at least key aspects of the RCC leadership were collaborators (wittingly or unwittingly) assisting, participating in, furthering that GREAT DECEPTION. He would not have been doing his job were that not the case. And, given man's greed, lusts and pride, it's proven to be a fairly easy task, sadly--and not just with the Vatican officials.


3. What evidence is there that such has, indeed, been the case. Actually, there are considerable stacks of such evidence--and I'm only talking about the more credible from a diversity of high level authentic documents as well as officials--a fair number going on the record with their real names.


4. Are the testimonies of the high level documents and officials consistent with logic and what we know about the 'real' world and human nature individually and in groups? Absolutely.


5. Are the testimonies of the high level documents and officials consistent with the testimonies of the victims and other onlookers? Absolutely.

 
6. Are the testimonies of the high level documents and officials consistent with the testimonies of the expert researchers and other known evidence related to secret societies? Absolutely.


 Along about 1968-1970 or so, I began to be convinced that the ET stuff would highly likely be involved in the GREAT DECEPTION Christ spoke about. About 1970-1985, I became convinced that that was virtually certain. About 1985-2000, I was totally convinced. Around 2005 on, I have considered it increasingly well proven.


We know that anything or anyone which degrades, dismisses, contradicts the DEITY OF CHRIST IS from the evil one. All the ET theological pontifications, blather, 'incidental' comments that touch on the issue at all, do that.


I believe I gifted you with a Kindle version of EXO-VATICANA. Maybe I can get you the DVD with the  10's of thousands of pages of documentation of that 600 page summary. A very significant chunk of that documentation came from the Vatican's own archives--some of them secret for centuries. A lot of it also came from face to face and correspondence testimony of high ranking Vatican officials.


Father Giuseppe Tanzella-Nitti: 'Christians will not immediately need to renounce their faith in God “simply on the basis of the reception of [this] new, unexpected information of a religious character from extraterrestrial civilizations.” However, once the “religious content” originating from outside the earth “has been verified” they will have to conduct “a re-reading [of the Gospel] inclusive of the new data…”'

from:

from r/Catholicism

https://www.reddit.com/r/Catholicism/comments/2m510u/what_did_father_giuseppe_tanzellanitti_really/



15-20 years ago, leaders and spokespersons in the Vatican Observatory began to say things fairly overtly but still cautiously about UFOs & ET's. I said then to several close to me and online that such statements would evolve:

 
1. They would become more and more brazen in content. THAT has HAPPENED incrementally advancing sometimes seemingly month by month but certainly year by year.


2. That they would become more and more unBiblical. THAT HAPPENED


3. That they would become more and more revelatory--of the Vatican perspective and of the agenda of the critters. That has somewhat happened but not as much as it will become so.


4. That such pronouncements & "leaks" would originate from higher and higher ranking Vatican officials and would eventually become delivered by The Pope. THAT HAS HAPPENED. The current Pope has had a number of things to say--all casting the ET's in a favorable light etc.


Early in such incremental commentary out of the Vatican, there were pronouncments about--'of course' the priest or spokesperson involved would be willing "to baptize" an ET. Then things 'progressed' to where Christians might have to adjust their theological understandings of reality once the extraterrestrial theological comments were verified. Of course, there's been not the least hint of HOW one would go about verifying such!!!


Father Guiseppe's brazenly outrageous comments have been expanded on accordingly--horrifically. The statements out of the Vatican now insist that the ET's may be more righteous than us--that they may have "never fallen" and may want to "baptize us."


 
The Vatican has not yet, to my knowledge, commented on the heretical ET blather that 'Jesus is not, was not God and was/is one of us.'

The Vatican has no reason to search for the bones of giants, but if they did, there is nothing wrong with that.  Bones are bones and giants did live in the world.  A student from my high school, became a priest and did training at the Vatican.  He never saw outer space aliens or hidden bodies that no one was supposed to know about and he didn’t find any UFOs being hidden in the Vatican.


1. Most folks at the Vatican--even many there for decades--never see a lot of things that are true about the Vatican; housed in the Vatican and that go on in the Vatican.


2. You may or may not be aware that the Vatican--perhaps more even than a famous secret society--is a MASSIVE intel gathering organization and has been so through the centuries. It has long been a vacuum of a wide variety of data and artifacts. Many ARE still secretly held there with very limited to no exposure to the public at large, if to anyone.


3. The Vatican has a lot of motivation to seek out bones of giants and learn all it can about them. All the more so, as seems evident, that the bones of the giants related to the fallen angels of Noah's & Joshua's times--and therefore to END TIMES EVENTS relating thereto. All the more so, if, as a shocking number of quality sources indicate that some such giants are "IN STASIS." i.e. in suspended animation awaiting re-animation in the END TIMES.


4. All the more so given that the secret societies/globalist oligarchy has been secreting away such bones and skeletons and evidence for centuries, too. The Vatican always wants to know more and sooner than anyone else--including even their cohorts and colleagues in the oligarchy and secret societies.


5. I could elaborate on this theme but I'm running out of gas. Suffice it to say, there's at least a handful of solid reasons why the Vatican would want all the evidence it could glean about giants and all things related thereto.




Because the Catholic Church has been around for hundreds of years, it gets blamed for being a secret group up to no good.  I mean, if a man wears a robe, he must be up to no good.  Each color of robe represents the time the church is in.  During the Advent season, approaching the birth of Christ, the Pastor/Priest wears a purple robe.  See, it has nothing to do with the devil or some secret ritual.   Our Christmas season starts on Christmas Eve and the Pastor/Priest wears a white or gold robe.  Robes are just robes – not satan material.

I don't have anything against robes. They are reportedly quite comfortable and cool in certain climates.

The Catholic Church is built on the love of God/Jesus Christ/The Holy Spirit.  To try to damn the Catholic Church as an evil entity, is to try to damn all of us who gather there to make this a better world.


Actually, the political moves setting up the RCC about 300 AD were probably motivated most by power and money grabs. And, it's been very successful in waxing and waning ways on such scores ever since.


It may well be the case that many in the RCC are focused on and motivated by the Love of Father, Son, Spirit. At this point, I'm more inclined to see such folks as in the minority in the RCC and a lot of other "Christian" organizations.


And, again . . . it is too complex and large and organization to make such blanket statements about the whole edifice very applicable or meaningful.

GIANTS:  Yes, there were giants described in the Bible, in the time of Noah and later:
Genesis 6
“Sons of God and Women
6  When people began being numerous on earth, and daughters had been born to them, 2 the sons of God, looking at the women, saw how beautiful they were and married as many of them as they chose. 3 Yahweh said, ‘My spirit cannot be indefinitely responsible for human beings, who are only flesh; let the time allowed each be a hundred and twenty years.’ 4 The Nephilim were on earth in those days (and even afterwards) when the sons of God resorted to the women, and had children by them. These were the heroes of days gone by, men of renown.”

Numbers 33
Moses sent an expedition to the promised land to survey the people and the land:
"The Expedition’s Report
25 After forty days they returned from reconnoitering the country. 26 Making their way to Moses, Aaron and the whole community of Israel, in the desert of Paran, at Kadesh, they made their report to them and the whole community, and displayed the country’s produce. 27 This was the report they gave: ‘We made our way into the country where you sent us. It does indeed flow with milk and honey; here is what it produces. 28 At the same time, its inhabitants are a powerful people; the towns are fortified and very big; yes, and we saw the Anakim there. 29 The Amalekites occupy the Negeb area, the Hittites, Jebusites and Amorites the highlands, and the Canaanites the sea coast and the banks of the Jordan.’ 30 Caleb called the people round Moses to silence and then said, ‘We must march in immediately and take it; we are certainly able to conquer it.’ 31 But the men who had been with him said, ‘We cannot attack these people; they are stronger than we are.’ 32 And they began disparaging to the Israelites the country they had reconnoitered, saying, ‘The country we have been to reconnoiter is a country that devours its inhabitants. All the people we saw there were of enormous size. 33 We saw giants there too (the Anakim, descended from the Giants). We felt like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.’ “

Quayle made “True Legends – Episode 3: Holocaust of Giants”
In this one he says the Vatican is preparing to welcome aliens from other planets.
I have talked to you and you told me you have never been in a Catholic Church.


I do not recall ever telling you that. I have never been baptized in one. I have attended mass in an RCC church maybe 2-4 times in my life.


Well, it’s full of people like me and Bob and our church bulletin we get every week, doesn’t speak of aliens going to visit our church.  If the Vatican had them, surely, they would send them around to their churches as speakers.


It is not time for that, yet. Perhaps in due course, it will be.



The man who makes these films, Stephen Quayle, is a nutcase, who makes films in order to make money, and that is it.  His film, The “UNHOLY SEE”, I spoke of above,  is made to attack the Catholic Church as evil with satan in control of the Catholic Church.  If you believe that crap, how about the one he made about Hitler, which you also believe:


“TRUE LEGANDS In Empire Beneath the Ice", author Stephen Quayle reveals why most of what you learned about World War II and the defeat of Nazi Germany is wrong. You’ll discover:
Why the suppressed evidence proves Adolf Hitler didn’t die before Germany surrendered during WWII, and how he eluded capture. How Nazi SS members, scientists, and soldiers escaped with Hitler to create colonies in other parts of the world to continue their monstrous research.

How, using advanced technology, Nazi saucers defeated the US military — long after WWII was supposedly over. Why the US space program was mostly a sham, and why the “UFOs” that started appearing around the world in the late 1940s were (and still are) most likely flown by Nazi pilots.


He does make some shocking assertions. However, it turns out, he has a considerable pile of solid evidence for most such statements.


Documentation and even radio and video of Admiral Byrd's Proj Highjump? expedition to Antarctica resulted in Adm Byrd staying some shockingly confirming things  {I think in NZ before getting back to the USA} that confirmed some of what Quayle has had to say.


And, I've read an entire other book or two--forget the title. Maybe I can add it later. The author built a well documented and convincing case that the Nazi's functionally ended up winning WWII and are STILL in control of the global oligarchy.


He asserted that Truman and Ike HAD to negotiate with the "Nazi International" that the "ET's" were still working with and insuring increasingly that they were in more or less full control of the major countries and the planet--particularly major governments and major corporations. I think this was after Adm Byrd was sent to Antarctica to destroy their base there and returned after great loss of life and ships with his tail between his legs. Ike and Truman purportedly negotiated that the government could more or less run things within certain limits as long as they met certain demands of the Nazi International. The Nazi International was and is purportedly demonstrably backed up by the exotic tech and fire power of the ET's.


Purportedly the Army and the CIA are in cahoots with the Nazi International and the Navy and Marines are supposedly in cahoots with "good ET's" . . . not realizing that all the critters are in the employ of satan. At least the Navy is allowed to be more patriotic in behalf of the Constitution and foundational American values--to a point--supposedly.


Ahhh yes, you refer to that in the paragraph below.



How key government, manufacturing, pharmaceutical, financial leaders, and institutions helped Hitler come into power, and facilitated the preservation of Nazi wealth and power after WWII. Why today’s world is secretly controlled by a malevolent shadow government and entire populations are being surreptitiously brainwashed. How ancient stargates have been duplicated to open portals into spiritual and demonic universes. Why those controlling our planet have laid the groundwork for a takeover by a dictator who could best be described as the Antichrist of the Bible.


You sound like you are extremely unaware of the extensive evidence documenting just that.


The Bible gives us the end times script. We know the basics. Therefore, it is not that surprising that Hitler et al who have and do worship satan would move such forces into play and into place as are described as the Nazi International.


“Empire Beneath the Ice” exposes the dangers our world faces, and will arm you with the tools you need to counter these unspeakable, secret evils.”

 
Spend a lot of money for his above film, and he is going to tell you how to be safe from these “unspeakable, secret evils”.  These are “unspeakable, secret evils”, but he is going to tell you what these secret evils are – they won’t be secret evils anymore because you will know them if you spend the money for the film.


I believe he is mostly exhorting folks to 'be IN CHRIST and insure that CHRIST IS IN them etc. etc.


I don't begrudge such folks making money from their labors. The Bible is clear about a workman is worthy his hire and they have gone to considerable trouble and expense to produce a quality product.



Believe what you want, Quix, but I reject Quayle’s nonsense films.


I think you'd be more honorable to do so after watching them completely and fair-mindedly. You should be able to soonish.


There's a LOT more I could say about all the above but I'm running out of energy for today. Thanks for the honor of your candor and certainly for your friendship.

[Quix]

@Victoria33

Alien Deception--Ancient Demons in Space Alien Suits


 
http://www.omegashock.com/2014/03/28/alien-deception-ancient-demons-in-space-alien-suits/

Putting It Together
So, let’s put this together a bit.



The CIA (among others) has been sitting on a story about aliens for 30 years. Jim Garrow has talked about it a few times over the past couple of months, and I’ve heard of it in quite a few places myself.



We also have some interesting circumstantial evidence that this story is gaining ground. John Podesta is a UFO freak, and Obama named him to his inner circle just a few months ago. That should give ANYONE pause. And then, there has been a dramatic increase in verifiable UFO sightings.



Then we have the Antichrist story. As I said above, this is the main event. This alien disclosure is all about setting the stage so that the ‘Great Leader’ can take to the platform.



And, wherever the Antichrist is, the Vatican is not far away. The thought that the Vatican is searching for an alien god to worship is shocking. Take a long hard look at this quote again, and tell me if I’m wrong:

Christians will not immediately need to renounce their faith in God “simply on the basis of the reception of [this] new, unexpected information of a religious character from extraterrestrial civilizations.” However, once the “religious content” originating from outside the earth “has been verified” they will have to conduct “a re-reading [of the Gospel] inclusive of the new data…”


– Vatican Astronomer, Eminent Theologian and Full Professor of Fundamental Theology at the Pontificia Università della Santa Croce in Rome [Connected With Opus Dei], Father Giuseppe Tanzella-Nitti

What a shocking comment, in broad daylight.



So, keep a weather eye open to this story. The Antichrist is coming, and we have a job to do.

With Guy Malone's Are Aliens Demons? Evidence for a Spiritual Interpretation of Alien Contact


Alien Resistance youtube channel:


https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlienResistanceHQ/featured


I have talked with Guy Malone 2-3 times fairly extensivel--face to face. He IS the real deal. He has done extensive research--including quality interviews with more than 400 abduction victims/experiencers.


He does NOT present the least bit of a money-grubbing motivation. For years, he'd take whatever a person felt they could pay--even if it was merely 25-50 cents. I don't know if he still does, or not. He allows massive copying and posting of his DVD's etc. etc. etc.


His perspective is quite consistent with the government scientist's perspective after decades of involvement at high levels of government with the phenomena: Dr J Allen Hynek. And, his conclusions are very much consistent with Dr Jacques Vallee's perspective--who studied as a secular scientist the phenomena for 10 years. He wrote 2-3 books documenting why he is totally convinced that the critters are evil spiritual entities that come--not from distant galaxies and planets--but from an evil spiritual dimension. Dr Vallee was the model for the Scientist presented at the end of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND.


imho, if one was going to view one video on the whole topic, I'd suggest this one.

[Cyber Liberty]

Think that's why they're hiding the aliens from us?  They know we'll rebel at the spiritual/religious level? 

[Quix]

Think that's why they're hiding the aliens from us?  They know we'll rebel at the spiritual/religious level? 

That "why" has long been an interesting question with little clearly accurate answers.

The most probable and convincing one is that the critters demand it.

Yet, that seems to contradict the critters' seemingly relentless and increasing efforts on their part to expose their craft with more and more frequency and more in broad daylight and in, over or near large cities.

Another often given why is that our religious institutions could not handle the new information without major upset, turmoil and even collapse with great stress, violence and chaos to the culture.

Personally, I think the evil one is carefully calculating the pace of disclosure and planning to spring the GREAT DECEPTION more overtly on the populace either in the midst of WW3 or just at the end of it when the global citizens are desperate for peace and frightened nearly out of their lives--and very vulnerable to a convincing DEMAND from a 'higher power' to comply with the critters' demands for a one world government and a one world religion--all of their structures and prescriptions--OR ELSE.

Given such strategies and stresses, the vast majority of global citizens would likely jump on board--particularly after a super devastating WW3 with global nuke exchanges.

The global citizens would likely comply just in devastating war weariness and fear--and a desperate yearning for peace and a 'normal'  life again. Throw in the DEMAND by the critters to comply or face exterminating punishment--I wonder how many would resist.