Author Topic: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath  (Read 5771 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline AllThatJazzZ

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,296
  • Gender: Female
  • Adopt your next pet, preferably a senior.
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #100 on: October 12, 2017, 04:54:13 pm »
:silly:

It is funny, @Suppressed, but maybe we shouldn't laugh. This kind of "debate" tactic is used by the desperate when they're unable to formulate a cogent response. He can't see that the Clinton/Blue Dress/Lucianne episode has nothing to do with anything in this discussion. It's a pitiful attempt to marginalize Jonah so that he can imply that his POV invalid.

In observing the antics at TOS, it became very evident that the left has nothing on "the right" (very loose use of that term) when it comes to the inability to craft a well-thought-out reply, opting instead to throw around ad hominems. I see it as more pathetic than laughable.


A government big enough to give you everything you want
is a government big enough to take away everything you have.


Offline jpsb

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,141
  • Gender: Male
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #101 on: October 12, 2017, 04:56:37 pm »
Because I think the biggest story in the Rat party self destructing is Harvey Weinstein. I also am the resident dirtbag at this forum. Most of the female posters can attest to that. I thought Harvey being my avatar appropriate.

 :da man:

I can't tell you how jealous I am.

Offline AllThatJazzZ

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,296
  • Gender: Female
  • Adopt your next pet, preferably a senior.
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #102 on: October 12, 2017, 04:59:10 pm »
Again, not the issue.

Your feelings against Sasse and strong feelings for Trump are beside the point.

Trump is seeking to violate the Constitution, and pseudo-cons are cheering him on.

THAT............ is the point.

Exactly the point. And what's frightening is that this snowball seems to continue to roll downhill, collecting more speed and mass. A good portion of "the right" are not alarmed by this -- which, in itself, is alarming.


A government big enough to give you everything you want
is a government big enough to take away everything you have.


Offline KingsX

  • Be yourself. No one can say you're doing it wrong.
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 842
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #103 on: October 12, 2017, 05:00:35 pm »


The past several decades social conservatives have learned the hard way
that the US Constitution is not absolute law written in stone... but can be
twisted to morph over time into whatever media-manipulated popular opinion
and the USSC want it to be. 


 




Offline etcb

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 51
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #104 on: October 12, 2017, 05:06:59 pm »
Fair question.
1st Amendment - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The first five words are the key.  The first amendment is a restriction on the power of Congress, not an instruction to the president.  The good Senator, being a member of Congress, is restricted by this amendment, but, the President has no constitutional power or restriction in this matter.  It would be good for the Senator to educate himself on his responsibility as well as that of the President.

Offline driftdiver

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,897
  • Gender: Male
  • I could eat it raw but why when I have fire
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #105 on: October 12, 2017, 05:09:45 pm »
1st Amendment - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The first five words are the key.  The first amendment is a restriction on the power of Congress, not an instruction to the president.  The good Senator, being a member of Congress, is restricted by this amendment, but, the President has no constitutional power or restriction in this matter.  It would be good for the Senator to educate himself on his responsibility as well as that of the President.

Nobody in their right mind wants the President doing this.  However what is the alternative.   If we do not change course this country and our Constitution will cease to exist.
Fools mock, tongues wag, babies cry and goats bleat.

Offline AllThatJazzZ

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,296
  • Gender: Female
  • Adopt your next pet, preferably a senior.
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #106 on: October 12, 2017, 05:09:45 pm »
Because our side has critical thinkers. Their side doesn't.

Really? You believe that? I used to. Not so much anymore. I've seen too much in the past couple of years.


A government big enough to give you everything you want
is a government big enough to take away everything you have.


Offline XenaLee

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15,398
  • Gender: Female
  • Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #107 on: October 12, 2017, 05:12:12 pm »
Yep.  The selfsame "Fairness Doctrine" that the dems have been pushing for years.

And.... let's not forget their "net neutrality" that they've been pushing, as well.

All code-talk for leftist censorship of anything they "deem" inappropriate (not leftie-slanted enough).
No quarter given to the enemy within...ever.

You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.

Offline Sanguine

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 35,986
  • Gender: Female
  • Ex-member
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #108 on: October 12, 2017, 05:12:37 pm »
To remind us that it’s gopher season and to be careful where you step when walking on your lawn. Thanks frank.

Yes!  You totally get Frank!

Offline XenaLee

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15,398
  • Gender: Female
  • Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #109 on: October 12, 2017, 05:14:57 pm »
Really? You believe that? I used to. Not so much anymore. I've seen too much in the past couple of years.

Our side (the right .... pardon pun... side) has critical thinkers.  It's just that the majority of non-critical thinkers (on both sides) either shout them down, demonize/marginalize them via fake news and false accusations, or ignore them altogether (See:  Ted Cruz accused of 'fill in the blank' during primaries).
No quarter given to the enemy within...ever.

You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.

Offline musiclady

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 22,682
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #110 on: October 12, 2017, 05:15:05 pm »
Exactly the point. And what's frightening is that this snowball seems to continue to roll downhill, collecting more speed and mass. A good portion of "the right" are not alarmed by this -- which, in itself, is alarming.

Indeed.  And the alarming stuff is going to get worse as Populist Liberal Trump keeps saying and doing things like this.  **nononono*
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.

Offline Emjay

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,687
  • Gender: Female
  • Womp, womp
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #111 on: October 12, 2017, 05:17:51 pm »
Because I think the biggest story in the Rat party self destructing is Harvey Weinstein. I also am the resident dirtbag at this forum. Most of the female posters can attest to that. I thought Harvey being my avatar appropriate.

Totally appropriate and appropos of this subject.  How long did the press keep quiet about this loathsome predator.  And how many people covered for him because of greed and fear.
Against stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in vain.

Offline Suppressed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,921
  • Gender: Male
    • Avatar
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #112 on: October 12, 2017, 05:18:49 pm »
George Stephanopolous speaks to millions every single day.   I cannot do this.   Why can he speak to millions and I can only speak to a few?

Why can Ed Sheeran or Bruno Mars speak to millions and I can only speak to a few?  I guess we need censorship of popular music, too.  After all, smaller acts just can't get heard.  It's just not fair!!

+++++++++
“In the outside world, I'm a simple geologist. But in here .... I am Falcor, Defender of the Alliance” --Randy Marsh

“The most effectual means of being secure against pain is to retire within ourselves, and to suffice for our own happiness.” -- Thomas Jefferson

“He's so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent.” --Foghorn Leghorn

Offline Emjay

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,687
  • Gender: Female
  • Womp, womp
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #113 on: October 12, 2017, 05:20:05 pm »
The hollywood liberals already come up with dumb and boring TV shows, can you imagine how much worse the conservative shows would be?

I love the conservative shows.  That's why I watch re-runs of Blue Bloods and Star Trek.
Against stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in vain.

Offline XenaLee

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15,398
  • Gender: Female
  • Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #114 on: October 12, 2017, 05:21:11 pm »
Ever wonder why certain people claiming to be "conservatives," sing from the same songbook as CNN, MSNBC, and the multitudes of extremely biased liberal propagandists?

Answer: Trump Obsession

FACT: Our airwaves are NOT entirely free and unregulated. Applicants must meet certain criteria, and follow rules. Historically enforcement has been lax.

What is sad, is that few besides Trump have sufficiently large huevos to call out "fake news," socialist propaganda, etc.

Most Republicans quietly sit on their comfortable, well paid, hands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Communications_Commission

Thought you were gonna say... most Republicans sit on their comfortable, well padded, rears.  Which would be true... especially re: the current crop of congresscritters.   They will be known as THE all-time do-nothing Congress, if things don't change.  And with McCain, McConnell and a few others still there.... nothing will change.
No quarter given to the enemy within...ever.

You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.

Offline truth_seeker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28,386
  • Gender: Male
  • Common Sense Results Oriented Conservative Veteran
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #115 on: October 12, 2017, 05:22:08 pm »
Many of us are former TOS members.  One of the finest moments in their history was the expose of Dan Rather, who blatantly lied about George W. Bush.

The lying by the press has continued to this day. All this hyperventilating over Trump's comment is a little over the top. People should be Hyperventilating about the lies fed to us daily.

Go over to Yahoo's main page.  Every day they have a wildly slanted story attacking Trump.

Hyperventilating over Trump......is the main pursuit on this forum.

"God must love the common man, he made so many of them.�  Abe Lincoln

Offline RoosGirl

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,759
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #116 on: October 12, 2017, 05:24:24 pm »
I love the conservative shows.  That's why I watch re-runs of Blue Bloods and Star Trek.


I've refused to watch Star Trek since Leonard Nimoy and his daughter talked my mom into buying that Silhouette.

Offline musiclady

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 22,682
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #117 on: October 12, 2017, 05:24:44 pm »
Hyperventilating over Trump......is the main pursuit on this forum.

You said it well, t_s.

Why do you keep doing that??  It's not healthy.   ^-^
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.

Offline Sanguine

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 35,986
  • Gender: Female
  • Ex-member
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #118 on: October 12, 2017, 05:28:15 pm »
Hyperventilating over Trump......is the main pursuit on this forum.

Well, on the Trump threads maybe.   You need to get out more. 

Offline Emjay

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,687
  • Gender: Female
  • Womp, womp
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #119 on: October 12, 2017, 05:28:49 pm »
Hyperventilating over Trump......is the main pursuit on this forum.

Amen.  If that pursuit was forbidden, a number of members here would have nothing to say.
Against stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in vain.

Offline Emjay

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,687
  • Gender: Female
  • Womp, womp
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #120 on: October 12, 2017, 05:29:58 pm »
Well, on the Trump threads maybe.   You need to get out more.

The Trump threads?  Where are the non-Trump threads.  Maybe over in General but not in Politics.
Against stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in vain.

Offline Suppressed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,921
  • Gender: Male
    • Avatar
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #121 on: October 12, 2017, 05:31:39 pm »
It is funny, @Suppressed, but maybe we shouldn't laugh. This kind of "debate" tactic is used by the desperate when they're unable to formulate a cogent response. He can't see that the Clinton/Blue Dress/Lucianne episode has nothing to do with anything in this discussion. It's a pitiful attempt to marginalize Jonah so that he can imply that his POV invalid.

In observing the antics at TOS, it became very evident that the left has nothing on "the right" (very loose use of that term) when it comes to the inability to craft a well-thought-out reply, opting instead to throw around ad hominems. I see it as more pathetic than laughable.

@AllThatJazzZ
You are, of course, correct.  But I'm human, and the claim was so ludicrous, that was the involuntary response. 

Seeing the Leftist drumbeat for the Fairness Doctrine here is sad.  And worse than sad -- it's scary.
+++++++++
“In the outside world, I'm a simple geologist. But in here .... I am Falcor, Defender of the Alliance” --Randy Marsh

“The most effectual means of being secure against pain is to retire within ourselves, and to suffice for our own happiness.” -- Thomas Jefferson

“He's so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent.” --Foghorn Leghorn

Offline Frank Cannon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26,097
  • Gender: Male
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #122 on: October 12, 2017, 05:32:25 pm »

I've refused to watch Star Trek since Leonard Nimoy and his daughter talked my mom into buying that Silhouette.

Holding a 27 year old grudge. You really know how to turn a guy on.

Offline Suppressed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,921
  • Gender: Male
    • Avatar
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #123 on: October 12, 2017, 05:33:58 pm »
The first amendment is a restriction on the power of Congress, not an instruction to the president.
@etcb

Exactly.

Because the President (think of the word...he is there just to "preside") has absolutely no power Constitutionally to make laws.  That ALL comes from Congress.  So if Congress can't do it, the President can't.
+++++++++
“In the outside world, I'm a simple geologist. But in here .... I am Falcor, Defender of the Alliance” --Randy Marsh

“The most effectual means of being secure against pain is to retire within ourselves, and to suffice for our own happiness.” -- Thomas Jefferson

“He's so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent.” --Foghorn Leghorn

Offline skeeter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26,717
  • Gender: Male
Re: GOP Senator Asks Trump If He’s ‘Recanting’ Constitutional Oath
« Reply #124 on: October 12, 2017, 05:34:45 pm »
Hyperventilating over Trump......is the main pursuit on this forum.

Whether intentionally or not, his tweets provoke debate. Some attack them, some defend them, eventually some sort of consensus results. Or at least the issue at hand becomes better defined.

Clarity results and given the political class has thrived in the confusion their policies have created clarity is just whats needed.