Was the Las Vegas Gunman's Homicidal Rage Politically Motivated?

[Smokin Joe]

The advantages of so many weapons at each location is that it obviate the need for reloads (and it provides a fresh barrel each time, though that shouldn't matter much at his ROF).

If you saw the pictures of the room, he had a pretty nice pile of magazines in one of the rooms. I do wonder how many of those firearms he actually fired during the attack.

[berdie]

I don't think it was politically motivated. He had scoped out too many other venues, supposedly.

I haven't seen the coroners report released yet. Maybe it has been and I missed it. But I'll be interested to see what if any drugs were in his system. And there is always the possibility of a brain tumor like the UT sniper that caused him to go  coo-coo.

But the question of how many of the guns were used is intriguing.

[Sanguine]

I don't think it was politically motivated. He had scoped out too many other venues, supposedly.

I haven't seen the coroners report released yet. Maybe it has been and I missed it. But I'll be interested to see what if any drugs were in his system. And there is always the possibility of a brain tumor like the UT sniper that caused him to go  coo-coo.

But the question of how many of the guns were used is intriguing.

Yes, I've been wondering what the coroner's report says.  Could be helpful.  Or, not.

[Smokin Joe]

Yes, I've been wondering what the coroner's report says.  Could be helpful.  Or, not.

Toxicology indicating drugs or a medical condition leading to sleep deprivation might be telling, too.

After 48 hours you not only hear things, you start singing along with the voices...

[Emjay]

Toxicology indicating drugs or a medical condition leading to sleep deprivation might be telling, too.

After 48 hours you not only hear things, you start singing along with the voices...

Tra, la, la, la.

Seriously, I'm sick of speculating.  Even though the media is steering oddly clear of this, we will know a lot more eventually.

[Smokin Joe]

Tra, la, la, la.

Seriously, I'm sick of speculating.  Even though the media is steering oddly clear of this, we will know a lot more eventually.

No one is forcing you to speculate. For all I know, Demonic Possession could be the deciding factor in gunning down a crowd of people. We are just trying to figure out more conventional disorders. So far, either LEOs don't know, or they aren't telling.

[roamer_1]

After 48 hours you not only hear things, you start singing along with the voices...

Yeah... when you start seeing naked woodland nymphs running alongside the truck, it's time to pull over and get some sleep... That was always my fail-safe.

[roamer_1]

For all I know, Demonic Possession could be the deciding factor in gunning down a crowd of people.

Oh without a doubt, if you're committing murder, you're talking to demons.

[truth_seeker]

The advantages of so many weapons at each location is that it obviate the need for reloads (and it provides a fresh barrel each time, though that shouldn't matter much at his ROF).

How many weapons were fired? How many rounds were fired?

Was there just one shooter, or did other(s) fire too, then leave the scene as planned?

There are many unknowns.

The Lost Angeles Times (outstanding investigative organization, biased politics aside) mentions that hotels hosting conventions routinely have people carrying in large volumes of equipment, material for their meetings.

I walk most days through the entry and lobby of one such hotel near me. I can validate the Times' observation.

They state there were 10+ suitcases in the room. Most hotels have multiple entrances, once you get your magnetic cards. Spaced over a couple of days, using different entrances, it was a piece of cake getting those cases up to his room. 

[roamer_1]

Was there just one shooter, or did other(s) fire too, then leave the scene as planned?

The last press conference pretty definitely declared they know he was the only shooter.

[truth_seeker]

The last press conference pretty definitely declared they know he was the only shooter.

I'm not entirely convinced, partly in view of the permanent controversy, about additional shooters in Dallas, over 50 years ago.

[jpsb]

I don't think it was politically motivated. He had scoped out too many other venues, supposedly.

I haven't seen the coroners report released yet. Maybe it has been and I missed it. But I'll be interested to see what if any drugs were in his system. And there is always the possibility of a brain tumor like the UT sniper that caused him to go  coo-coo.

But the question of how many of the guns were used is intriguing.

Current info says he scoped out one other venue, a hippy concert. He had reservations
at a Chicago Hotel that overlooked another (rap) concert but he never showed up. The
most likely reason for "scoping out" the other venue was practice. He wanted to get a
feel for what it felt like to over look a big live concert.

Bottom line is he did not shoot up the hippie concert but he did shoot up the country
music concert. Something motivating him. He put in a lot of time, money and thought
into what he was doing, so he most definitely was highly motivated person. I wish the
FBI would tell us what his motivation was.

What ever became of the woman that told the concert goers that "they were all going to
die tonight"? Kinda strange no reporter is following up on that.

[jpsb]

Tra, la, la, la.

Seriously, I'm sick of speculating.  Even though the media is steering oddly clear of this, we will know a lot more eventually.

We will only "know" what the corrupted and politicized FBI wants us to know. Unless
maybe the sheriff is an honest man.

[jpsb]

So far, either LEOs don't know, or they aren't telling.

My money is on "aren't telling".

[Smokin Joe]

My money is on "aren't telling".

If there was one or more other people involved, they aren't in custody. Saying they aren't looking for anyone else just might get them to let their guard down and either identify themselves or be located. So I can see keeping mum.
Or there might just be him. 

[driftdiver]

My money is on "aren't telling".

It's been what 6 days?

[berdie]

Yes, I've been wondering what the coroner's report says.  Could be helpful.  Or, not.

You are absolutely correct @Sanguine . It might not be helpful. It could be the answer is he was just a nut...or he wanted to see if he could pull a mass killing off. I guess that was redundant. :)

[berdie]

Current info says he scoped out one other venue, a hippy concert. He had reservations
at a Chicago Hotel that overlooked another (rap) concert but he never showed up. The
most likely reason for "scoping out" the other venue was practice. He wanted to get a
feel for what it felt like to over look a big live concert.

Bottom line is he did not shoot up the hippie concert but he did shoot up the country
music concert. Something motivating him. He put in a lot of time, money and thought
into what he was doing, so he most definitely was highly motivated person. I wish the
FBI would tell us what his motivation was.

What ever became of the woman that told the concert goers that "they were all going to
die tonight"? Kinda strange no reporter is following up on that.

I don't find it odd that a person was outside of the concert saying that.

I have been to 2 concerts with similar people doing that. It must be a "thing" these days.

[ABX]

What ever became of the woman that told the concert goers that "they were all going to
die tonight"? Kinda strange no reporter is following up on that.

They did follow up on that. They checked with the security company at the hotel that supposedly escorted the woman out for telling people that. The security company said it didn't happen.  This story started from one girl in front of a camera telling a story and blowing up on the internet (the old 'telephone game' like you play in kindergarten).  One of the many stories that people have convinced themselves it is true because they saw it repeated over and over on the internet.

Ever growing list of debunked hoaxes about LV.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/here-are-all-the-hoaxes-being-spread-about-the-las-vegas?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark&utm_term=.rhJq7QvMy#.dhwA5RxVN

[ABX]

I don't find it odd that a person was outside of the concert saying that.

I have been to 2 concerts with similar people doing that. It must be a "thing" these days.

IF it ever even happened (see post above). But, it is not unusual at all in Vegas for there to be someone on every street corner telling you 'the end is near' and 'repent or perish' or something like that.

[jpsb]

They did follow up on that. They checked with the security company at the hotel that supposedly escorted the woman out for telling people that. The security company said it didn't happen.  This story started from one girl in front of a camera telling a story and blowing up on the internet (the old 'telephone game' like you play in kindergarten).  One of the many stories that people have convinced themselves it is true because they saw it repeated over and over on the internet.

Ever growing list of debunked hoaxes about LV.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/here-are-all-the-hoaxes-being-spread-about-the-las-vegas?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark&utm_term=.rhJq7QvMy#.dhwA5RxVN

OK thanks for the info.

[Smokin Joe]

I don't find it odd that a person was outside of the concert saying that.

I have been to 2 concerts with similar people doing that. It must be a "thing" these days.

I think it was the first or second video clip I saw of the incident, very early on, had a woman saying stuff about "shit getting real" and then launching into some rant about Trump when the clip ended. Shooting was in progress. The twisted part of that is that she almost seemed happy that the incident was happening.

[Emjay]

No one is forcing you to speculate. For all I know, Demonic Possession could be the deciding factor in gunning down a crowd of people. We are just trying to figure out more conventional disorders. So far, either LEOs don't know, or they aren't telling.

Duh.  Or, Meh.  Did I say anyone was forcing me to speculate?  And how could anyone force me to speculate.

I simply said I was tired of it until we actually know something.