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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1550 on: October 18, 2017, 08:23:42 pm »
Thanks, but it didn't take Pulitzer work.  I can't believe they're being so ridiculously obvious with this stunt.
Good find. Maybe it is so bloody obvious that they don't think people will connect those dots.
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« Reply #1551 on: October 18, 2017, 10:32:46 pm »
Good find. Maybe it is so bloody obvious that they don't think people will connect those dots

All of this was easily found doing a simple search of 'Ellen DeGeneres MGM.'

Looks like they did a trial run in the MGM Grand Detroit in 2014 according to this press release.

DETROIT, November 19, 2014 – MGM Grand Detroit announced today it has installed four The Ellen DeGeneres Show Video Slots on its casino floor.  MGM Grand Detroit is the first casino in the market to install the game for guest play.
 
Ellen Video Slots is made up of two different games: Ellen’s Dance Party Video Slots and The Ellen DeGeneres Show Featuring 12 Days of Giveaways Video Slot.  Each features images, clips and music from the popular daytime TV talk show and offer special bonuses based some of the Emmy® Award-winning program’s most well known segments. All four games are penny denomination.

http://newsroom.mgmgranddetroit.com/mgm-grand-detroit/latest-news/mgm-grand-detroit-is-first-casino-in-market-to-offer-the-ellen-degeneres-show-slot-game-duo.htm


They must have performed well, because by Feb 2015 (date of video posted below), she announced on her show they were available at MGM casinos nationwide.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WfqI-HO6Qzk

I don't know how these contracts work and what her cut for license fees and gameplay income would be, but she obviously has had an interest in promoting the MGM casinos.  There's also the statement released by MGM about the interview.

“Jesus Campos wants to tell his story at a time and place of his choosing,” MGM Resorts International, which owns and operates Mandalay Bay, said in an email to the Las Vegas Review-Journal early Tuesday. “He’s asked that everyone respect his request for privacy. We could not be more proud of Jesus.”

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/mandalay-bay-security-guard-appears-on-ellen-video/

Somehow, I seriously doubt it suddenly occurred to him, 'Hey, I'd really like to tell my story on Ellen.'

This whole thing screams damage control and collusion.  Someone needs to start asking Ellen and MGM serious questions about being a corporate shill - providing cover, protecting interests, and the bottom line in the wake of a national tragedy. 

Disgraceful.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2017, 10:41:25 pm by edpc »
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1552 on: October 18, 2017, 11:26:20 pm »
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwir3P-J5frWAhUX8GMKHYZwD10QqUMIMjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.recordonline.com%2Fzz%2Fnews%2F20171016%2Fwhy-unknown-motive-in-las-vegas-massacre-is-so-unsettling&usg=AOvVaw3cBahJUz0DGChqBQ8Wh6j3

This article starts out with the unassailable psychological truth that we need to know the motive, then descends into an argument that guns are to blame. The usual liberal crock.


"Finally, Spiegel warns, when people reflexively accept a “mental illness” explanation for mass shootings, they are playing into the hands of the gun rights advocates who would foil any effort to stem the tide of weapons in America.

“We all want to feel in control of things we can’t control,” said Spiegel, who directs Stanford’s Center on Stress and Health. “We want to play this narrative in our heads that we can avoid these people. But what’s really chilling is that no matter where you go or what you do, there’s a coldblooded guy with a gun who could take you out.”

Under the circumstances, he said, “we ought to be anxious.”


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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1553 on: October 18, 2017, 11:29:25 pm »


This whole thing screams damage control and collusion.  Someone needs to start asking Ellen and MGM serious questions about being a corporate shill - providing cover, protecting interests, and the bottom line in the wake of a national tragedy. 

Disgraceful.

Most people will not realize why Ellen was the one to get the interview- it wasn't just for the prizes. She also had a handy-dandy floor plan and pointer to clarify Jesus' tale and was kind enough to restate his story for him. Yes, disgraceful.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1554 on: October 19, 2017, 01:21:35 am »
The lack of a motive and the division, distrust, and fear it causes is exactly my point. The best wedge. I am looking at the long run. The End Game.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1555 on: October 19, 2017, 01:44:32 am »
The lack of a motive and the division, distrust, and fear it causes is exactly my point. The best wedge. I am looking at the long run. The End Game.
The end game is more gun control. Anything, but they want to ban SOMEthing.

Unfortunately, in its rush to throw a bone to the antis, the NRA has screwed up and blamed a THING instead of leaving the blame with the criminal, a point they had campaigned on for years. OOPS. (And being a lifelong NRA member, a stupid move that needs clarification, and if they blame the device, one that pisses me off.)

Once an inert piece of plastic becomes inherently evil in the minds of people, how much more so will they present the device that actually fires bullets? Stupid, stupid, stupid. If that wasn't the impression the NRA intended to give, it would be really nice to see a strong clarifying statement to that effect.
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« Reply #1556 on: October 20, 2017, 12:54:19 am »
EXCLUSIVE: Mandalay Bay owner insisted security guard Jesus Campos appear ONLY on Ellen and not be grilled by TV hardhitters fearing his answers to timeline questions could result in massive lawsuits from victims of the massacre


Mandalay Bay shooting hero Jesus Campos was pressured into giving his only interview to Ellen DeGeneres because the giant company that owns the Las Vegas casino feared he would spill the beans about the shooting timeline if he was grilled by real journalists, DailyMail.com has learned exclusively.

MGM is worried that families of the 58 people murdered as well as many of the 546 injured  in the Mandalay Bay massacre will launch lawsuits potentially worth billions of dollars against the company, sources tell DailyMail.com.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4996918/Hotel-insisted-Jesus-Campos-appear-Ellen-fearing-lawsuites.html


Brit papers doing the job American ones won't.  Now, they need to expose the cozy MGM relationship with Ellen.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2017, 12:55:57 am by edpc »
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1557 on: October 20, 2017, 02:53:31 am »
EXCLUSIVE: Mandalay Bay owner insisted security guard Jesus Campos appear ONLY on Ellen and not be grilled by TV hardhitters fearing his answers to timeline questions could result in massive lawsuits from victims of the massacre


Mandalay Bay shooting hero Jesus Campos was pressured into giving his only interview to Ellen DeGeneres because the giant company that owns the Las Vegas casino feared he would spill the beans about the shooting timeline if he was grilled by real journalists, DailyMail.com has learned exclusively.

MGM is worried that families of the 58 people murdered as well as many of the 546 injured  in the Mandalay Bay massacre will launch lawsuits potentially worth billions of dollars against the company, sources tell DailyMail.com.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4996918/Hotel-insisted-Jesus-Campos-appear-Ellen-fearing-lawsuites.html


Brit papers doing the job American ones won't.  Now, they need to expose the cozy MGM relationship with Ellen.
Well, we had that figured out. It is nice to see that much confirmed. Unfortunately the liability CYA will likely interfere with the investigation. "Housekeeping, you have a cleanup on 32..."
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1558 on: October 20, 2017, 03:04:49 pm »
Well, we had that figured out. It is nice to see that much confirmed. Unfortunately the liability CYA will likely interfere with the investigation. "Housekeeping, you have a cleanup on 32..."

There is a lawsuit against MGM and restraining order so that they do not destroy evidence.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/judge-oks-restraining-order-to-protect-evidence-in-las-vegas-shooting/
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« Reply #1559 on: October 20, 2017, 09:18:52 pm »
Rumors abound about him (security guard) being an Illegal.

Imagine the lawsuits!
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1560 on: October 21, 2017, 12:36:00 am »
Rumors abound about him (security guard) being an Illegal.

Imagine the lawsuits!
Why?  Even if illegal, the man appears to have acted and behaved as someone who is honorable and with values and morals.  I don't see how his immigration status would have any bearing on that POS gunning down hundreds of people.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1561 on: October 21, 2017, 06:32:42 am »
There is a lawsuit against MGM and restraining order so that they do not destroy evidence.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/judge-oks-restraining-order-to-protect-evidence-in-las-vegas-shooting/
I sincerely hope the CSI unit there (or whatever they call it) thoroughly documented the scenes, catalogued the physical evidence, and the M.E. was completely thorough with the toxicology screens.

I'd bet there is either a lot more to all this than we are being told.

From the MGM Resorts website https://www.mgmresorts.com/en.html:
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The MGM Resorts Foundation has set up a special fund to help support victims of the Las Vegas shooting, their families and the organizations that support our first responders. Click here to donate
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Victim Relief: http://www.mgmresortsfoundation.org/


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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1562 on: October 21, 2017, 06:34:02 am »
Why?  Even if illegal, the man appears to have acted and behaved as someone who is honorable and with values and morals.  I don't see how his immigration status would have any bearing on that POS gunning down hundreds of people.
Agreed. Let this stand on the merits of his actions, not immigration status. But find out what those actions were, and the time frame, too.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1563 on: October 21, 2017, 12:53:20 pm »
Not sure I trust the MGM charity for the survivors and first responders.  I think if a survivor is in need, I would rather give to that person directly.  Some already have GoFundMe page, but I don't trust them either.  A few of those sites have been busted for fraud.

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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1564 on: October 21, 2017, 01:27:18 pm »
Not sure I trust the MGM charity for the survivors and first responders.  I think if a survivor is in need, I would rather give to that person directly.  Some already have GoFundMe page, but I don't trust them either.  A few of those sites have been busted for fraud.

These days, nothing short of driving there yourself, and AFTER getting identification, present them your contribution.   
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1565 on: October 21, 2017, 04:19:30 pm »
No media curiosity about the "worst mass shooting" in US history. Nothing released to the public in eight days. Why did LVMPD say the day after the shooting "we may never know the motive?" He had numerous phones, laptops, and cameras in the room, computers found in both homes and there is no digital footprint? I am astounded the story is over.
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« Reply #1566 on: October 21, 2017, 04:23:24 pm »
I'd bet there is either a lot more to all this than we are being told.

I am certain of that.

I am also certain we will never know the truth of it.

What I do know is that this stinks to high heaven, and smacks of something incredibly nefarious.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1567 on: October 21, 2017, 04:26:43 pm »
I am certain of that.

I am also certain we will never know the truth of it.

What I do know is that this stinks to high heaven, and smacks of something incredibly nefarious.

The Propaganda arm of the Dems, aka the Press, already got what they want from this story:  Acquiescence of the NRA to ram through yet another restriction on guns, and the stopping of the Hearing Protection Act.  They have nothing to gain, only to lose, if the details ever leak out.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1568 on: October 21, 2017, 06:02:25 pm »
The Propaganda arm of the Dems, aka the Press, already got what they want from this story:  Acquiescence of the NRA to ram through yet another restriction on guns, and the stopping of the Hearing Protection Act.  They have nothing to gain, only to lose, if the details ever leak out.
I am reminded of another incident. When the Assault Weapons Ban was facing repeal, the Waco (Mt. Carmel) massacre hearings were slated for Congress, a fellow whose pal had a GF from the Philippines blew up a rental truck. All progress on repeal stopped right there. The hearing was just another arm waving session, but no one was so much as reduced in grade over killing 87 men, women, and children by burning their building to the ground after driving over their vehicles with tracks, poking holes in the building, and filling the place with cs and carburetor cleaner (Methylene Chloride). 

It's like deja vu all over again. No, that isn't tinfoil, it's a helmet, Model M1.
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