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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #75 on: October 02, 2017, 11:47:17 am »
The audio from the concert was automatic.  Definitely

Not fast semi, it's full auto.  Sounded like ak47. Not a 5.56 round

Thank you.  It didn't sound conventional to me either, but I thought I might just be "mis-hearing" the sound...

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« Reply #76 on: October 02, 2017, 11:48:20 am »
Now ABC is saying the death toll is 104.  But I guess the numbers will be revised several times for quite some time.

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« Reply #77 on: October 02, 2017, 11:51:22 am »
Now ABC is saying the death toll is 104.  But I guess the numbers will be revised several times for quite some time.

I don't think they know with any amount of certainty.  They are still searching the site.
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« Reply #78 on: October 02, 2017, 11:52:28 am »
Oh, Geez.  Now some chippy on CBS wants to know how easy it is to obtain the firearms used in this shooting in Las Vegas.  Here comes the ban guns movement again.   ****slapping

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« Reply #79 on: October 02, 2017, 11:54:06 am »
I don't think they know with any amount of certainty.  They are still searching the site.

Exactly.  Plus they have to get numbers from the hospitals treating the injured.  It's possible some of those brought in may not be saved.

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« Reply #80 on: October 02, 2017, 11:54:38 am »
Thank you.  It didn't sound conventional to me either, but I thought I might just be "mis-hearing" the sound...

If it's an ak round it's not good.  Those do lots of damage.
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« Reply #81 on: October 02, 2017, 12:00:04 pm »
looks pretty young for mid 60s Not sure that is the right guy...
Found this here:

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/914793867219783680

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CBS just showed a photo like the one you posted.   As I said before, the other photo may be inaccurate or old.   

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« Reply #82 on: October 02, 2017, 12:08:15 pm »
Ok, that 104 number is the umber of injured at one hospital.  And so far, the shooter is reported to not have a criminal record. 

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« Reply #83 on: October 02, 2017, 12:20:17 pm »
Exactly.  Plus they have to get numbers from the hospitals treating the injured.  It's possible some of those brought in may not be saved.

I suspect a lot of the injured were trampled in the ensuing panic.

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« Reply #84 on: October 02, 2017, 12:30:42 pm »
ABC is interviewing an eyewitness.  She mentions there were a number of children at the show.  Country concerts like this are family events. 

Prayers up for everyone, especially the kids.

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« Reply #85 on: October 02, 2017, 12:41:00 pm »
ABC is interviewing an eyewitness.  She mentions there were a number of children at the show.  Country concerts like this are family events. 

Prayers up for everyone, especially the kids.

Thanks for showing your heart.  From a distance, all we can do is pray for the families.

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« Reply #86 on: October 02, 2017, 12:42:16 pm »
ABC is saying Paddock was found dead when they entered the hotel room.  Some stories had the police taking him out. 

Well, good.  Saved the taxpayers some money. 

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« Reply #87 on: October 02, 2017, 12:42:23 pm »
ABC is interviewing an eyewitness.  She mentions there were a number of children at the show.  Country concerts like this are family events. 

Prayers up for everyone, especially the kids.

Witnesses on fox said there kids there.  They knew of no kids hurt.  No trample injuries seen.  Firefighters said all gunshots.   I'm sure there are some non gunshot injuries though.
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« Reply #88 on: October 02, 2017, 12:43:23 pm »
Now the injured number is 400+.

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« Reply #89 on: October 02, 2017, 12:45:46 pm »
Oh, Geez.  Now some chippy on CBS wants to know how easy it is to obtain the firearms used in this shooting in Las Vegas.  Here comes the ban guns movement again.   ****slapping

Probably not as easy as it is to get a truck!?

NO MATTER WHAT WEAPON WAS USED, IT STILL WASN'T AS DEADLY AS A TRUCK.
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« Reply #90 on: October 02, 2017, 12:48:10 pm »
Witnesses on fox said there kids there.  They knew of no kids hurt.  No trample injuries seen.  Firefighters said all gunshots.   I'm sure there are some non gunshot injuries though.

No doubt.  One eyewitness was hurt trying to go over a concrete barrier.  Said she was treated and released.  But others I'm sure were more seriously injured just from the panic.

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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #91 on: October 02, 2017, 12:48:51 pm »
Oh, Geez.  Now some chippy on CBS wants to know how easy it is to obtain the firearms used in this shooting in Las Vegas.  Here comes the ban guns movement again.

From what's been reported, the man had multiple firearms in the room.  Yes, you can legally purchase Class III weapons, but the process is long and the weapons are expensive.  Modified weapons often fail, due to the inferior parts, lack of expertise on the installer, or tolerances of the original equipment.  Given the amount of weapons at the scene, I wouldn't be surprised if some had been altered with a 'bump fire' device.  They're easily obtained, legal, and relatively inexpensive, compared to a standard full auto.
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« Reply #92 on: October 02, 2017, 12:50:00 pm »
Deputy sheriff in LV now saying Paddock died from self-inflicted gunshot.  No local criminal record.

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« Reply #93 on: October 02, 2017, 12:53:58 pm »
8 weapons...2 different shooting "platforms"...camera's recording the entire thing.  Shooter killed himself as the cops breached the room.

LVMPD were able to pinpoint the room because all of the smoke from the rounds fired set off the smoke alarms.

LV Sherriff at the mic now.
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« Reply #94 on: October 02, 2017, 12:57:27 pm »
Probably not as easy as it is to get a truck!?

NO MATTER WHAT WEAPON WAS USED, IT STILL WASN'T AS DEADLY AS A TRUCK.
86 killed, 500 wounded in Nice, France.

Whether it is a truck or a gun, it doesn't matter because they are just tools.  :nono:

Agreed.  And how many people have been killed with knives or other sharp instruments?  In countries where firearms are banned, killers will find some other way to inflict mass casualties. 

I just found it both amusing and appalling that the dead aren't even cold yet and already, the media is pushing for gun bans.

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« Reply #95 on: October 02, 2017, 01:03:22 pm »
FNC now saying the shooter had 10 weapons.
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« Reply #96 on: October 02, 2017, 01:04:16 pm »
As of now, the sheriff says they don't believe the woman was involved.  Apparently, she was (is?) out of the country.

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« Reply #97 on: October 02, 2017, 01:10:28 pm »
As of now, the sheriff says they don't believe the woman was involved.  Apparently, she was (is?) out of the country.

Yeah she was out of the country...he was using some of her ID he had...seems he'd been in that room since the end of last month.
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« Reply #98 on: October 02, 2017, 01:16:30 pm »
Listening to the video...close to 30 seconds of sustained fire at one point...deeper sound than 5.56 (more of a "thud thud" than a "crack crack")...so IMHO he either illegally modified semi-auto (single shot) rifles or illegally purchased fully auto weapons and some how got them into the country.

Not even the bionic hand of the Six Million Dollar Man could fire a semi-auto rifle that fast.
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« Reply #99 on: October 02, 2017, 01:18:44 pm »
It's rather convenient that the wife is out of the country.  Two theories

1) She dumped him and he snapped
2) She convinced him to do it
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