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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2017, 10:37:08 am »
50 dead over 200 hurt.  They think they've found her.  Sheriff confirmed Steven paddock

The woman is an escort so she might have been there for that.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2017, 10:41:33 am »
A registered sex offender, @johngaltreport tweeted.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2017, 10:45:12 am »
Quote from: mountaineer on October 02, 2017, 10:41:33 am
A registered sex offender, @johngaltreport tweeted.


So this wasn't a legal weapon
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2017, 10:45:13 am »
Quote from: mountaineer on October 02, 2017, 10:41:33 am
A registered sex offender, @johngaltreport tweeted.

looks pretty young for mid 60s Not sure that is the right guy...
Found this here:

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/914793867219783680

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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #54 on: October 02, 2017, 10:46:15 am »
News conference by LEO just now is saying 50 dead and 200 injured.  Shooter is dead.  Still looking for a woman "accomplice.". 

Lots of conflicting info, so don't believe anything yet.


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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2017, 10:47:38 am »
Quote from: driftdiver on October 02, 2017, 10:45:12 am
So this wasn't a legal weapon
I read that he used a fully automatic weapon* - any confirmation of that?

*Here, among other sources. This site has videos in which you can hear what sounds like automatic firing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=5HnPGTK-aW8
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2017, 10:47:49 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 02, 2017, 10:45:13 am
looks pretty young for mid 60s.

Old photo or maybe this isn't the same guy.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #57 on: October 02, 2017, 10:48:33 am »
Yes, accomplice found.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #58 on: October 02, 2017, 10:49:36 am »
Quote from: Applewood on October 02, 2017, 10:47:49 am
Old photo or maybe this isn't the same guy.
No, at first, some people were circulating a photo of another guy who wasn't the shooter, Geary somebody.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #59 on: October 02, 2017, 10:49:54 am »
Quote from: mountaineer on October 02, 2017, 10:47:38 am
I read that it was fully automatic - any confirmation of that?

The audio from the concert was automatic.  Definitely

Not fast semi, it's full auto.  Sounded like ak47. Not a 5.56 round
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2017, 10:50:13 am »
Quote from: mountaineer on October 02, 2017, 10:47:38 am
I read that it was fully automatic - any confirmation of that?

It sounded like a fully automatic. Very consistent high rate of fire. At least 4 rounds a second I'd guess.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2017, 10:51:37 am »
Quote from: mountaineer on October 02, 2017, 10:47:38 am
I read that he used a fully automatic weapon* - any confirmation of that?

*Here, among other sources.
Sure sounded like it in the video.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2017, 10:53:26 am »
Scroll down a way to the video showing the singer on stage.  It captures the shooting audio.  https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4527652/las-vegas-shooting-mandalay-bay-music-festival-latest-toll/
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #63 on: October 02, 2017, 10:56:35 am »
Quote from: mountaineer on October 02, 2017, 10:49:36 am
No, at first, some people were circulating a photo of another guy who wasn't the shooter, Geary somebody.

Ok.  He does look young in that photo for 64.   

It's a shame.  For being Sin City, the  Strip used to be remarkably safe any time of the day and night.  Not anymore. 
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #64 on: October 02, 2017, 10:57:52 am »
Now reports that a "Hispanic" woman and a guy went to the area by the stage 45 mins before the shooting and told people they were all gonna die.

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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #65 on: October 02, 2017, 10:59:16 am »
Quote from: driftdiver on October 02, 2017, 10:57:52 am
Now reports that a "Hispanic" woman and a guy went to the area by the stage 45 mins before the shooting and told people they were all gonna die.

She might be Filipino.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #66 on: October 02, 2017, 11:03:37 am »
Quote from: dfwgator on October 02, 2017, 10:59:16 am
She might be Filipino.

I was think it would be easy to see her as Hispanic in the dark and confusion of a concert.

If only someone had reported it before the shooting started.  The woman was apparently kicked out so someone knew
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #67 on: October 02, 2017, 11:04:24 am »
Shooter fired from a hotel room window.  They are now calling the woman a "person of interest," not an "accomplice."
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #68 on: October 02, 2017, 11:08:47 am »
Quote from: Applewood on October 02, 2017, 11:04:24 am
Shooter fired from a hotel room window. 
... making the people below, outdoors at the concert, sitting ducks.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #69 on: October 02, 2017, 11:15:50 am »
Quote from: mountaineer on October 02, 2017, 11:08:47 am
... making the people below, outdoors at the concert, sitting ducks.

Exactly. 

People were scattering to anywhere they could find shelter.  One woman in a car took in some of the fleeing people.  There are reports of some people running onto the runways of McCarran Airport.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #70 on: October 02, 2017, 11:21:22 am »
For those of you speculating on the weaponry used by the shooter -- ABC says they found multiple weapons in the perp's room.  So it could be he used more than one type of weapon.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #71 on: October 02, 2017, 11:32:05 am »
Horrific news to wake up to.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #72 on: October 02, 2017, 11:40:36 am »
Quote from: Applewood on October 02, 2017, 11:15:50 am
Exactly. 

People were scattering to anywhere they could find shelter.  One woman in a car took in some of the fleeing people.  There are reports of some people running onto the runways of McCarran Airport.

I believe the airport is a couple miles away from the site.  Also there would be fences blocking them.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #73 on: October 02, 2017, 11:44:01 am »
Quote from: driftdiver on October 02, 2017, 11:40:36 am
I believe the airport is a couple miles away from the site.  Also there would be fences blocking them.

Correction it's a couple miles taxi ride but the runway is right across the street
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #74 on: October 02, 2017, 11:44:24 am »
Quote from: driftdiver on October 02, 2017, 11:40:36 am
I believe the airport is a couple miles away from the site.  Also there would be fences blocking them.

Yeah, I thought the airport wasn't that close to Mandalay Bay, but a video was shown on ABC purportedly of people running onto the runways.  I believe the airport was shut down at least partially.
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