GOP senators call on Bannon, Trump to lay off incumbents

[INVAR]

And you think third parties, which have also existed in that time frame, will work? They have an even worse track record.

Irrelevant to me.

I will no longer vote for anyone in a party that holds me and my principles in contempt while governing as a stalwart enemy to them.

If you think liberty is just another sporting event to play using politicians without dire consequences to freedom, by all means - root for your team for power's sake.

You will get to enjoy more of the same shit we have been served the last few years with additional helpings of Statism and Socialism.

[Emjay]

    Do you still honestly believe @Emjay that the NT'ers here far out number the AT'ers?   I just don't see it, (and I'm here a lot).

    This Forum is very well balanced (compared to others I'm on) and it is those here that are in neither camp that make it interesting and really wish us fanatics would just drop it and get a life and I don't blame them.


    Edited to add I would never suggest anything to do with you is BS, but don't be to quick to discount the advantages of Prozac in everyday life.

Well, yes.  I honestly do see that.  There are very few fanatic Trump supporters and I'm amazed they stay because they are verbally abused all the time.

There are people who claim to be in neither camp but they are just NT'ers at heart.

But I agree that if we all agreed, it would be no fun.

The only drugs I resort to are vitamins and Tylenol and a light beer occasionally.

[DB]

When I see any of 'you people' giving Trump wholehearted credit for anything without some snide suspicion or caveat, I will stop.

I'm worried about Trump, myself, but I see no point in the constant bashing at this stage in the game.  Maybe in 2019, you could try.

There's a number of things he's done that nearly all, if not all, of us have supported. I don't think you can find anyone here that hasn't praised something he's done.

But there is a "but".

When someone lies to your face repeatedly, trust has to be earned back. The more they lie the more difficult it is for them to restore any meaningful trust. Every time there's been a spark of trust developing he's done something to extinguish it, and then some. There's a long history of sleaze and lies from Trump long before he ran as a Republican. He's never apologized or asked for forgiveness for any of his actions. That history speaks for itself regardless of the random acts of "conservative" deeds that come our way from time to time. I know you know exactly what I'm talking about.

[aligncare]

Emjay wrote:
"Trump would have been a good third party candidate because he appealed to the masses"

Sorry, but you're not seeing the forest through the trees.

Donald Trump WAS a "third party candidate" -- who cunningly stole the horse from the Republican party's stable and rode it to the White House. The first to do so in American history.

And that's why the Republican elites have been unwilling to lay their political careers on the line for him since.

But they better not play their hand to openly.
He might just do it one more time in 2020!

Sweet. Nice imagery. And if I may play, Trump was pulling a wagonload of others – unaffiliated voters, disaffected democrat voters, third-party voters, non-voters, apathetic voters, first-time voters, geeks and freaks and everything in between!

Yeah, Trump was crazy, crazy like a fox. He owned Reince Priebus from the moment he announced.

[DCPatriot]

That is false. Nearly everyone here has given him credit where it's due. Even me - And I am among the most strident against him.

So stop.

As @Bigun once said....  "You're so FOS, your eyes are brown!"   

[aligncare]

 ...in the very sentence in which he claims to call balls and strikes, this: "And I am among the most strident against him. 

How'd you like to overhear the umpire uttering that pant load as you walk up to the plate?

[DCPatriot]

...in the very sentence in which he claims to call balls and strikes, this: "And I am among the most strident against him. 

How'd you like to overhear the umpire uttering that pant load as you walk up to the plate?

@roamer_1 is one of the most rabid NTs in the 'House'

They've become caricatures of themselves.

[Applewood]

@roamer_1 is one of the most rabid NTs in the 'House'

They've become caricatures of themselves.

I think the Trump faithful are the caricatures. 

So what will the explanation be for Trump's betrayal of his base on the immigration issue?  That he was forced into a deal with the Democrats because the Republicans won't cooperate? 

I'm sure Trump's propaganda ministry will come up with a "reasonable explanation." 

[Silver Pines]

Excuse you, but some of your fellow ardent Trump militant supporters have told us directly upon our thumbs up - that any vocal agreement we may have for something Trump does well that we approve of is unwelcome and not wanted, because we are not Trump supporters and only 'fair weather friends'.

I guess this is so the trump militant can continue to accuse us of saying Trump can do no right as some kind of defense when we point out Trump's liberal wrongheadedness.

@INVAR

I  think I missed that.  In other words,  they said that giving Trump credit when deserved is meaningless?  Even though one of their main complaints has been our supposed failure to do that?

See, this is why I stopped pointing out the times I've praised Trump.  It's just not enough for some Trump supporters.  Their POV is based in emotion---the issue is whether you love Donald.  It has nothing to do with policy.

I'm done trying to prove anything.  I'll keep doing the reasonable thing, which is to credit Trump when he manages to do something decent and ripping him when he doesn't.  Whether someone gives me credit on their scoreboard is irrelevant.

[DCPatriot]

@INVAR

I  think I missed that.  In other words,  they said that giving Trump credit when deserved is meaningless?  Even though one of their main complaints has been our supposed failure to do that?

See, this is why I stopped pointing out the times I've praised Trump.  It's just not enough for some Trump supporters.  Their POV is based in emotion---the issue is whether you love Donald.  It has nothing to do with policy.

I'm done trying to prove anything.  I'll keep doing the reasonable thing, which is to credit Trump when he manages to do something decent and ripping him when he doesn't.  Whether someone gives me credit on their scoreboard is irrelevant.

Yeah.... you're "done" alright!

Your credibility is zero here regarding anything Trump-related.   And your posts read like farts in the wind.

[aligncare]

My position is clear, I'm a supporter and I'll be damned if I'm gonna give tacit support to those forces on the left and right by parroting those trying to discredit, belittle and ultimately to derail MY agenda (which is 89.9 percent in agreement with Tump's). I will never give aid and comfort to my political enemies just so I can advertise my virtue.

[Bigun]

As @Bigun once said....  "You're so FOS, your eyes are brown!"   

NO! @DCPatriot!  He's right and YOU are wrong!  AGAIN! STILL!

[INVAR]

@INVAR

I  think I missed that.  In other words,  they said that giving Trump credit when deserved is meaningless? 

Only when it is those of us whom they see as NeverTrump.

They demand oaths of fealty, not acknowledgement.

[roamer_1]

As @Bigun once said....  "You're so FOS, your eyes are brown!"   

The record will prove me true.

[roamer_1]

...in the very sentence in which he claims to call balls and strikes, this: "And I am among the most strident against him. 

How'd you like to overhear the umpire uttering that pant load as you walk up to the plate?

I am not an umpire, nor am I supposed to be.

[Silver Pines]

Yeah.... you're "done" alright!

Your credibility is zero here regarding anything Trump-related.   And your posts read like farts in the wind.

@DCPatriot

Well, I guess I'm going to have to try and find a reason to struggle on, now.