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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #350 on: September 08, 2017, 09:56:12 am »
The forecasters are now saying that it will hit Florida directly and head-on. The entire State will be affected.


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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #351 on: September 08, 2017, 10:24:27 am »
The forecasters are now saying that it will hit Florida directly and head-on. The entire State will be affected.


https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-bahamas-florida-georgia-carolinas-forecast

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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #352 on: September 08, 2017, 10:34:32 am »
The forecasters are now saying that it will hit Florida directly and head-on. The entire State will be affected.


https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-bahamas-florida-georgia-carolinas-forecast

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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #353 on: September 08, 2017, 01:35:08 pm »
Letter on the hurricane of August 1772
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This was written by Hamilton to his father in the American colonies. He showed it to a local reverend, who got it published in a local newspaper. The vivid descriptions so moved people that they started a fund to move Hamilton to New York to get a proper education, thus this letter greatly shaped early American history. This version is taken from A few of Hamilton's letters: including his description of the great West Indian hurricane of 1772 (The Macmillan Company, 1903), pp. 261ff. Other versions vary somewhat in wording.
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Honoured Sir,

I take up my pen just to give you an imperfect account of the most dreadful hurricane that memory or any records whatever can trace, which happened here on the 31st ultimo at night.

It began about dusk, at North, and raged very violently till ten o'clock. Then ensued a sudden and unexpected interval, which lasted about an hour. Meanwhile the wind was shifting round to the South West point, from whence it returned with redoubled fury and continued so till near three o'clock in the morning. Good God! what horror and destruction—it's impossible for me to describe—or you to form any idea of it. It seemed as if a total dissolution of nature was taking place. The roaring of the sea and wind—fiery meteors flying about in the air—the prodigious glare of almost perpetual lightning—the crash of the falling houses—and the ear-piercing shrieks of the distressed, were sufficient to strike astonishment into Angels. A great part of the buildings throughout the Island are levelled to the ground—almost all the rest very much shattered—several persons killed and numbers utterly ruined—whole families running about the streets unknowing where to find a place of shelter—the sick exposed to the keenness of water and air—without a bed to lie upon—or a dry covering to their bodies—our harbour is entirely bare. In a word, misery in all its most hideous shapes spread over the whole face of the country.— A strong smell of gunpowder added somewhat to the terrors of the night; and it was observed that the rain was surprisingly salt. Indeed, the water is so brackish and full of sulphur that there is hardly any drinking it.

My reflections and feelings on this frightful and melancholy occasion are set forth in following self-discourse.

Where now, Oh! vile worm, is all thy boasted fortitude and resolution? what is become of thy arrogance and self-sufficiency?—why dost thou tremble and stand aghast? how humble—how helpless—how contemptible you now appear. And for why? the jarring of the elements—the discord of clouds? Oh, impotent presumptuous fool! how darest thou offend that omnipotence, whose nod alone were sufficient to quell the destruction that hovers over thee, or crush thee into atoms? See thy wretched helpless state and learn to know thyself. Learn to know thy best support. Despise thyself and adore thy God. How sweet—how unutterably sweet were now the voice of an approving conscience;—then couldst thou say—hence ye idle alarms—why do I shrink? What have I to fear? A pleasing calm suspense! a short repose from calamity to end in eternal bliss?—let the earth rend, let the planets forsake their course—let the sun be extinguished, and the heavens burst asunder—yet what have I to dread? my staff can never be broken—in omnipotence I trust.

He who gave the winds to blow and the lightnings to rage—even him I have always loved and served—his precepts have I observed—his commandments have I obeyed—and his perfections have I adored.—He will snatch me from ruin—he will exalt me to the fellowship of Angels and Seraphs, and to the fulness of never ending joys.

But alas! how different, how deplorable—how gloomy the prospect—death comes rushing on in triumph veiled in a mantle of ten-fold darkness. His unrelenting scythe, pointed and ready for the stroke.—On his right hand sits destruction, hurling the winds and belching forth flames;—calamity on his left threatening famine, disease, distress of all kinds.—And Oh! thou wretch, look still a little further; see the gulf of eternal mystery open—there mayest thou shortly plunge — the just reward of thy vileness.—Alas! whither canst thou fly? where hide thyself? thou canst not call upon thy God;—thy life has been a continual warfare with him.

Hark! ruin and confusion on every side.—Tis thy turn next: but one short moment—even now—Oh Lord help—Jesus be merciful!

Thus did I reflect, and thus at every gust of the wind did I conclude,—till it pleased the Almighty to allay it.—Nor did my emotions proceed either from the suggestion of too much natural fear, or a conscience overburdened with crimes of an uncommon cast.—I thank God this was not the case. The scenes of horror exhibited around us, naturally awakened such ideas in every thinking breast, and aggravated the deformity of every failing of our lives. It were a lamentable insensibility indeed, not to have had such feelings,—and I think inconsistent with human nature.

Our distressed helpless condition taught us humility and a contempt of ourselves.—The horrors of the night—the prospect of an immediate cruel death—or, as one may say, of being crushed by the Almighty in his anger—filled us with terror. And everything that had tended to weaken our interest with Him, upbraided us, in the strongest colours, with our baseness and folly.—That which, in a calm unruffled temper, we call a natural cause, seemed then like the correction of the Deity.—Our imagination represented him as an incensed master, executing vengeance on the crimes of his servants.—The father and benefactor were forgot, and in that view, a consciousness of our guilt filled us with despair.

But see, the Lord relents—he hears our prayers—the Lightning ceases—the winds are appeased—the warring elements are reconciled, and all things promise peace.—The darkness is dispelled—and drooping nature revives at the approaching dawn. Look back, Oh, my soul—look back and tremble.—Rejoice at thy deliverance, and humble thyself in the presence of thy deliverer.

Yet hold, Oh, vain mortal!—check thy ill-timed joy. Art thou so selfish as to exult because thy lot is happy in a season of universal woe?—Hast thou no feelings for the miseries of thy fellow-creatures, and art thou incapable of the soft pangs of sympathetic sorrow?—Look around thee and shudder at the view.—See desolation and ruin wherever thou turnest thine eye. See thy fellow-creatures pale and lifeless; their bodies mangled—their souls snatched into eternity—unexpecting—alas! perhaps unprepared!—Hark the bitter groans of distress—see sickness and infirmities exposed to the inclemencies of wind and water—see tender infancy pinched with hunger and hanging to the mother's knee for food!—see the unhappy mother's anxiety—her poverty denies relief—her breast heaves with pangs of maternal pity—her heart is bursting—the tears gush down her cheeks—Oh sights of woe! Oh distress unspeakable!—my heart bleeds—but I have no power to solace!—Oh ye, who revel in affluence, see the afflictions of humanity, and bestow your superfluity to ease them.—Say not, we have suffered also, and with-hold your compassion. What are your sufferings compared to these? Ye have still more than enough left.—Act wisely.—Succour the miserable and lay up a treasure in Heaven.

I am afraid, sir, you will think this description more the effort of imagination, than a true picture of realities. But I can affirm with the greatest truth, that there is not a single circumstance touched upon which I have not absolutely been an eye-witness to.

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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #354 on: September 08, 2017, 02:58:44 pm »
https://www.weatherbell.com/irma-feed

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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #355 on: September 08, 2017, 03:31:16 pm »
https://www.weatherbell.com/irma-feed

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Jose just became a catagory 4

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09/hurricanes_jose_and_katia_both_1.html


Don't know if we need a separate thread for Jose at this time
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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #356 on: September 08, 2017, 03:38:01 pm »
Jose just became a catagory 4

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09/hurricanes_jose_and_katia_both_1.html


Don't know if we need a separate thread for Jose at this time
Not just yet, for Jose, I don't think. There are other fish to fry for the moment. Katia is a Cat 2, but looks to be heading to Mexico. Irma and Jose are at Cat 4.

Did Karl Rove sell his evil weather machine to the Democrats on eBay or something? The Russians?
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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #357 on: September 08, 2017, 03:38:18 pm »
3 storms at the same time, plus Harvey last week.  God must be extremely angry at us. 

By the way, I agree with Bastardi about the "spaghetti" models.  Confusing and annoying.  Like him, the only spaghetti I want is in a plate with red sauce and meatballs.

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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #358 on: September 08, 2017, 03:45:42 pm »
3 storms at the same time, plus Harvey last week.  God must be extremely angry at us. 


Yep. The Leftist are saying that God is angry at America for electing Trump...except...Leftists don't believe in God. Therefore, they are saying that Mother Nature, or their God Gaia, is angry at America for electing Trump.


Who knew Mother Nature was a Democrat? Oh well, live and learn, I guess?
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« Reply #359 on: September 08, 2017, 03:48:49 pm »

Yep. The Leftist are saying that God is angry at America for electing Trump...except...Leftists don't believe in God. Therefore, they are saying that Mother Nature, or their God Gaia, is angry at America for electing Trump.


Who knew Mother Nature was a Democrat? Oh well, live and learn, I guess?

It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.
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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #360 on: September 08, 2017, 03:58:37 pm »
3 storms at the same time, plus Harvey last week.  God must be extremely angry at us. 

By the way, I agree with Bastardi about the "spaghetti" models.  Confusing and annoying.  Like him, the only spaghetti I want is in a plate with red sauce and meatballs.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,280335.0.html

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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #361 on: September 08, 2017, 04:02:13 pm »
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,280335.0.html

Hurricane scientists have never seen an image like this before

Yep.  Saw that.  Scary as hell.

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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #362 on: September 08, 2017, 04:17:49 pm »
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,280335.0.html

Hurricane scientists have never seen an image like this before

That's interesting.  Within two posts on that link, a picture was shown of the same thing in 2010.
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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #363 on: September 08, 2017, 04:29:56 pm »
That's interesting.  Within two posts on that link, a picture was shown of the same thing in 2010.

What is the average career length of a meteorologist? Probably not that much considering their accuracy. After being so consistently wrong, day after day,  how long does it take before you are finding a new career?
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« Reply #364 on: September 08, 2017, 04:34:34 pm »
What is the average career length of a meteorologist? Probably not that much considering their accuracy. After being so consistently wrong, day after day,  how long does it take before you are finding a new career?

But people are lazy and who remembers that Joe Blow said that ____ would happen in ____ and it didn't?  Except for a few very high profile types, we just don't keep track of their accuracy.

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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #365 on: September 08, 2017, 04:50:59 pm »
How about some Hurricane Sign Language dudes?

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« Reply #366 on: September 08, 2017, 05:12:40 pm »
What is the average career length of a meteorologist? Probably not that much considering their accuracy. After being so consistently wrong, day after day,  how long does it take before you are finding a new career?

Ask that question of an Economist.  I think their accuracy rate is lower than Meteorologists.
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« Reply #367 on: September 08, 2017, 05:17:24 pm »

Interesting stuff.


How Do Hurricanes Get Their Names?
By Sarah B. Puschmann, Staff Writer | September 8, 2017 10:12am ET

https://www.livescience.com/60340-how-are-hurricanes-named.html



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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #368 on: September 08, 2017, 05:31:07 pm »
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/09/photos-from-saint-martin-after-hurricane-irma/539103/
Photos of the Devastation Across Saint Martin Left by Hurricane Irma


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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #369 on: September 08, 2017, 05:39:27 pm »
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/09/photos-from-saint-martin-after-hurricane-irma/539103/
Photos of the Devastation Across Saint Martin Left by Hurricane Irma


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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #370 on: September 08, 2017, 05:42:33 pm »
Thanks for the link....What a mess.
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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #371 on: September 08, 2017, 05:56:15 pm »
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/09/photos-from-saint-martin-after-hurricane-irma/539103/
Photos of the Devastation Across Saint Martin Left by Hurricane Irma

many photos at link

I have to say that most of the buildings look better than I expected.  I know there's a lot of material loss there, but jeez, a direct hit from that monster of a storm and only 8 deaths seems like a dingdang miracle to me.

It gives me a little bit more hope that what we're going to get where I am won't be so horrible.
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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #372 on: September 08, 2017, 06:07:58 pm »
I have to say that most of the buildings look better than I expected.  I know there's a lot of material loss there, but jeez, a direct hit from that monster of a storm and only 8 deaths seems like a dingdang miracle to me.

It gives me a little bit more hope that what we're going to get where I am won't be so horrible.
That's 8 confirmed. I would not be surprised if there are some folks 'missing', yet. If you look at the aerial shots, there is a lot of roof damage on buildings which look pretty good from lower angles. Also hurricane shutters on those buildings may mask internal damage far worse than the outside would reveal. Sand is notorious for getting through small cracks and being deposited, and lower floors may have considerable accumulations if they were inundated. Some of the frame structured did not fare well at all. I am not sure how high the interior of the island is, but objects on higher ground may have avoided the storm surge and done better.
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« Reply #373 on: September 08, 2017, 06:32:16 pm »
How many of our TBR folks are in Florida?

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Re: Live Thread: Hurricane Irma Is Heading Towards The Gulf Of Mexico
« Reply #374 on: September 08, 2017, 06:37:54 pm »
That's 8 confirmed. I would not be surprised if there are some folks 'missing', yet. If you look at the aerial shots, there is a lot of roof damage on buildings which look pretty good from lower angles. Also hurricane shutters on those buildings may mask internal damage far worse than the outside would reveal. Sand is notorious for getting through small cracks and being deposited, and lower floors may have considerable accumulations if they were inundated. Some of the frame structured did not fare well at all. I am not sure how high the interior of the island is, but objects on higher ground may have avoided the storm surge and done better.

Yeah, but considering the storm that they took, I think a lot of the buildings did pretty well.  Some roof damage is better than flattened houses.  Sand through cracks is not a big deal to me compared to the flattened houses we saw with Andrew.