Growing Number of Republican Lawmakers Call on Trump to Condemn White Nationalists by Name

[Hoodat]

conservatism is always wrong if trump happens to fall in to it.

Please let me know if Trump ever happens to fall into Conservatism.

[dfwgator]

Communist opposed the Nazis in the thirties. 

They were good pals from 1939 to 1941.  Until the Nazis invaded their beloved Soviet Union, the Left in this country was all for neutrality.

[driftdiver]

Communist opposed the Nazis in the thirties.  They were both evil. And yes, they occupied the same moral plane.
The antifa and BLM thugs are just as evil as the Nazis and are doing far more damage to the country.
Which side do YOU!!! think is the biggest danger to the country.....a few hundred Nazi idiots or the many thousands of leftist thugs now infesting college campi and other areas? .

@goatprairie
Lefties supported nazi's in the 30s too.

The people who call themselves Nazi's today are mostly white supremacists from what I've seen.  So called Aryans who just happen to have brown hair and poor muscle tone.  In my area they were called skin heads and tend to be violent, poor, uneducated, and otherwise marginalized from the main stream.  I've run into them at gun shows when my Asian wife was with me.

The BLM and Antifa people are really more like the Nazi of old.   They use group think and violence to force their beliefs on everyone else.  Very similar to what was done before WWII.  I think that is why this incident has resonated so much with the media, its given them a vehicle to demonize their enemy while giving further credence to the left.

[driftdiver]

Please let me know if Trump ever happens to fall into Conservatism.

@Hoodat

What would you call the move he made on the Supreme Court?   Or the massive number of govt regulations he's removed?

[Bigun]

No, the statues will be sacrificed because they have been made the victim of the fables taught about the War of Northern Aggression, which have converted the visages of men who suffered and often lost all fighting for their country against the invading Northern Armies into symbols of racism and hatred.
Suppose only a few Sons of the Confederacy and Daughters of Confederate Veterans had showed up. Do you really think that the actions of Antifa/BLM would have been any less egregious?

If the Media hadn't had those alt-right idiots showing up, they would have had to hire some or use stock footage from elsewhere just to prove the  people protesting the removal of the statue were "racists".

You can't convince me that everyone in the crowd there to protest the removal of the statues was affiliated with the alt-right groups which got the news images and video time, either. I firmly believe there was some media distortion going on, whatever the motive for those optics may be--but something which I suspect they were going to try to tie to the President in their ongoing war against the duly elected POTUS.

One demented assh*le running down people in the streets doesn't help either.

B R A V O ! ! !  Well said and spot on!

[Bigun]

There is but one goal in all of this!  Can anyone guess what it is?

[INVAR]

There is but one goal in all of this!  Can anyone guess what it is?

You have to erase the history of the people you intend to subjugate or liquidate.

[dfwgator]

You have to erase the history of the people you intend to subjugate or liquidate.

"Today is History...."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOmE8-lqO8

[Bigun]

You have to erase the history of the people you intend to subjugate or liquidate.

That is true but not the correct answer to the question.  ALL of this is being ginned up by denizens of the swamp in an effort to make sure no swamp draining occurs!

[INVAR]

That is true but not the correct answer to the question.  ALL of this is being ginned up by denizens of the swamp in an effort to make sure no swamp draining occurs!

It's bigger than that, and it is out of their control, having lit the fuse.

[Sanguine]

That is true but not the correct answer to the question.  ALL of this is being ginned up by denizens of the swamp in an effort to make sure no swamp draining occurs!

Yep.  We will spend all of our time arguing amongst ourselves about statues and who's more racist.

[Jazzhead]

You have to erase the history of the people you intend to subjugate or liquidate.

The whiff of bullshit is heavy with this one . . . 

[INVAR]

The whiff of bullshit is heavy with this one . . . 

None so blind or deaf than those who promulgate the very thing they insist is not going to happen.

[Oceander]

Communists opposed the Nazis in the thirties.  They were both evil. And yes, they occupied the same moral plane.
The antifa and BLM thugs are just as evil as the Nazis and are doing far more damage to the country.
Which side do YOU!!! think is the biggest danger to the country.....a few hundred Nazi idiots or the many thousands of leftist thugs now infesting college campi and other areas? .

Communists and National Socialists opposed each other because they were competing for the same followers by appealing to antithetical philosophical agendas:  internationalist versus nationalist.  Otherwise, they're just different species of left wing totalitarians. 

[HonestJohn]

Communists and National Socialists opposed each other because they were competing for the same followers by appealing to antithetical philosophical agendas:  internationalist versus nationalist.  Otherwise, they're just different species of left wing totalitarians.

All I know is that if forced to choice one of these, it's an easy choice.

With one, I'll be killed.

With the other, I'll just suffer.

I'd rather not die.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

All I know is that if forced to choice one of these, it's an easy choice.

With one, I'll be killed.

With the other, I'll just suffer.

I'd rather not die.

Can you elaborate. They're both bad and they've both killed lots of people.

[HonestJohn]

Can you elaborate. They're both bad and they've both killed lots of people.

Nazis want Jews dead.  That's been made very obvious after 6 million of us died by their hands in the 1940s.

Communist don't.  They like to oppress Jews and deny us the same 'rights' as others, but as a whole, there is no call for a mass campaign of genocide.

I'd rather not have to make such a choice.

But if America is bound and determined to force this Hobbsian choice; there is only one choice.

[TomSea]

Nazis want Jews dead.  That's been made very obvious after 6 million of us died by their hands in the 1940s.

Communist don't.  They like to oppress Jews and deny us the same 'rights' as others, but as a whole, there is no call for a mass campaign of genocide.

I'd rather not have to make such a choice.

But if America is bound and determined to force this Hobbsian choice; there is only one choice.

Al Sharpton Led His First Anti-Semitic Race-Riot In Crown Heights, Twenty-Three Years Ago Today
On the job training for a professonal hater
8.19.2014
News
Jeff Dunetz
 

Al Sharpton wasn't always an unrepentant MSNBC star, advisor to president Obama, and first-in-line to agitate a racial situation anywhere in the country. Twenty-three years ago a tragic car accident in Crown Heights Brooklyn escalated into a pogrom against the Jewish people. The media usually gives it a politically correct description: "violence between the area's Blacks and Jews." But the violence was not two-sided. The Crown Heights riot was an attack on the Jews by the neighborhood's Caribbean community, fueled in large part by Al Sharpton, the "Reverend"who does not believe in the commandment about "bearing false witness."

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/al-sharpton-led-his-first-anti-semitic-race-riot-crown-heights-twenty-three-years-ago-today

Lest we forget, this is "whataboutism"; but it is interesting, that folks who have said antisemitic things, that might include someone like Keith Ellison, Democratic vice chair are not being called out over this in the same tone.

[Sanguine]

Nazis want Jews dead.  That's been made very obvious after 6 million of us died by their hands in the 1940s.

Communist don't.  They like to oppress Jews and deny us the same 'rights' as others, but as a whole, there is no call for a mass campaign of genocide.

I'd rather not have to make such a choice.

But if America is bound and determined to force this Hobbsian choice; there is only one choice.

Don't tell the Ukranians that.  Or, Chinese peasants.  Or Cambodians.  No, wait, they were killed off in famines and mass murders...

[dfwgator]

Communist don't.  They like to oppress Jews and deny us the same 'rights' as others, but as a whole, there is no call for a mass campaign of genocide.

 

Tell that to all the Ukrainians who starved to death under Stalin.    And there was a lot of "Ethnic Cleansing" under Stalin's rule....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer_in_the_Soviet_Union

[dfwgator]

Communists and National Socialists opposed each other because they were competing for the same followers by appealing to antithetical philosophical agendas:  internationalist versus nationalist.  Otherwise, they're just different species of left wing totalitarians.

The irony being that Stalin opposed "Internationalism" and went with "Socialism in One Country",   and wanted "Russification" of the entire Soviet Union.    He uprooted entire races of people in certain areas, to be replaced with ethnic Russians.   

[TomSea]

Obama has probably consorted with known anti-Semites like Ellison, Sharpton. Oh, let's not remember that now.

[Restored]

We aren't going to have to choose between Nazis and Communists. We will have to decide if violence is acceptable to silence someone. All of us grew up with the adage "I may not like what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it". It's a paraphrase of Voltaire. The far Left today has abandoned that and some of my liberal friends have started to abandon that.

The Nazis/White Power groups will always be a small fringe movement.  The far-left fascists grow stronger and larger every day. And they also don't like Jews and the media will defend them if they ever decide to start smashing windows.

[Smokin Joe]

Communists opposed the Nazis in the thirties.  They were both evil. And yes, they occupied the same moral plane.
The antifa and BLM thugs are just as evil as the Nazis and are doing far more damage to the country.
Which side do YOU!!! think is the biggest danger to the country.....a few hundred Nazi idiots or the many thousands of leftist thugs now infesting college campi and other areas? .

Actually, since both sides shout down rational discussion, I think both of those extremes are equally bad. If the Left didn't have the "alt-right" to point to, there'd be no real boogeymen to rally against.

In that sense, a few hundred idiots poison the well of rational Conservatism, and enable the leftist extremists by giving them poster children of evil on the "right" (as taught to the mush minded of today).

In actuality National Socialists, Communists, and other totalitarians are the enemy, wherever you stand, because they would deny fundamental rights to anyone who is not one of them, something which is inarguably unAmerican.

[Cripplecreek]

Nazis want Jews dead.  That's been made very obvious after 6 million of us died by their hands in the 1940s.

Communist don't.  They like to oppress Jews and deny us the same 'rights' as others, but as a whole, there is no call for a mass campaign of genocide.

I'd rather not have to make such a choice.

But if America is bound and determined to force this Hobbsian choice; there is only one choice.

Historically the communists have a much more complicated history with Jews than nazis did. One of the reasons Israel is so much more socialistic is the number of Israeli Jews who came from Soviet bloc nations.

My great grandfather was a Polish Jew who spent the first 10 years of his life on the run. He finally fled the Austro-Hungarian Empire and set sail for Canada from Amsterdam as an Austrian Catholic. By the time he arrived in Detroit and swore his intent to become a citizen he had officially become a Methodist. (It was still tough for Jews to get into the states circa 1912.)