Growing Number of Republican Lawmakers Call on Trump to Condemn White Nationalists by Name

[dfwgator]

That is true in theory but not in practice and you certainly don't get to pick any place you want. I was in a fraternity. We got turned down frequently for outdoor and indoor events. The police can and do wantonly disrupt your meeting at any time. You can't even assemble without a permit.

True. The Right to Freedom of Speech is NOT the Right to have an audience.

[dfwgator]

The statues are not the cause so blaming them is just a senseless gesture by the Left. Instead, we end up looking like the Taliban, destroying monuments and art because we don't like the message. We will be burning books soon.

We don't get to decide how we are depicted. The left-wing media will perform that task and we get no say in the matter.

And those goal-posts keep getting moved.   Meanwhile to the MSM, the Antifas are "The White Rose."

[Smokin Joe]

No, but the statues will be sacrificed because a bunch of alt-right creeps used them as an excuse to march to "Unite the Right".   It is well past time to reject these fools - THAT's how you unite the right. 

Oh, don't be so passive.   Our fate, our reputations, is in our hands.   REJECT the alt-right, without equivocation.   Yes, there are fascists on both sides - our job is to reject the fascists that infect ours.   

No, the statues will be sacrificed because they have been made the victim of the fables taught about the War of Northern Aggression, which have converted the visages of men who suffered and often lost all fighting for their country against the invading Northern Armies into symbols of racism and hatred.
Suppose only a few Sons of the Confederacy and Daughters of Confederate Veterans had showed up. Do you really think that the actions of Antifa/BLM would have been any less egregious?

If the Media hadn't had those alt-right idiots showing up, they would have had to hire some or use stock footage from elsewhere just to prove the  people protesting the removal of the statue were "racists".

You can't convince me that everyone in the crowd there to protest the removal of the statues was affiliated with the alt-right groups which got the news images and video time, either. I firmly believe there was some media distortion going on, whatever the motive for those optics may be--but something which I suspect they were going to try to tie to the President in their ongoing war against the duly elected POTUS.

One demented assh*le running down people in the streets doesn't help either.

[Smokin Joe]

And no one has the right to run down demonstrators with a car.   Will the alt-left kill some day?  No doubt.  But this weekend, it was the alt-right that killed.

There are laws against running people down in the streets. It was one demented SOB who ran a car into a crowd.

As for the alt-left, are you trying to claim that Baltimore or Fergusson or Dallas were bloodless? The alt-left has already killed.

[dfwgator]

No, but the statues will be sacrificed because a bunch of alt-right creeps used them as an excuse to march to "Unite the Right".   It is well past time to reject these fools - THAT's how you unite the right. 

Oh, don't be so passive.   Our fate, our reputations, is in our hands.   REJECT the alt-right, without equivocation.   Yes, there are fascists on both sides - our job is to reject the fascists that infect ours.   

And to put pressure on the Media and Left to reject theirs', and to call them out when they show an obvious double-standard.

[Jazzhead]

As for the alt-left, are you trying to claim that Baltimore or Fergusson or Dallas were bloodless? The alt-left has already killed.

How in your right mind are you seeing my words as somehow defending the alt-left?   How much courage does it take to attack the alt-left on a conservative board?

What we need now is the same courage that Buckley had in the sixties - to firmly and unequivocally REJECT the haters and bigots and fascists who claim to be on "our side" and are ruining our brand and sullying our reputations and ideals.   

[Jazzhead]

And to put pressure on the Media and Left to reject theirs', and to call them out when they show an obvious double-standard.

What double standard?  Are you suggesting that Nazis and those who oppose them occupy the same moral plane?   

[driftdiver]

What double standard?  Are you suggesting that Nazis and those who oppose them occupy the same moral plane?   

@Jazzhead

Yes the recipe for success is to let the left write the gameplan for conservatives.   Yep

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

What double standard?  Are you suggesting that Nazis and those who oppose them occupy the same moral plane?   

There are a few groups. Antifas are just as bad as the Nazis. Absolutely.

There are other groups that just protest the Nazis. They're not as bad.

This is why Twitter is a terrible platform. It's impossible to fit a coherent argument into a hundred and some odd characters.

[skeeter]

What double standard?  Are you suggesting that Nazis and those who oppose them occupy the same moral plane?   

Are you suggesting Antifa opposes only bona fide Nazis?

[mountaineer]

Statement from Presidents George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush regarding the tragic events last weekend in Charlottesville, Virginia:

"America must always reject racial bigotry, anti-Semitism, and hatred in all forms. As we pray for Charlottesville, we are reminded of the fundamental truths recorded by that city’s most prominent citizen in the Declaration of Independence: we are all created equal and endowed by our Creator with unalienable rights. We know these truths to be everlasting because we have seen the decency and greatness of our country."

[Crazieman]

Are you suggesting Antifa opposes only bona fide Nazis?

Nah, they only suck down the MSM narrative hook, line, and sinker.
So you need to spend your own time discerning who is the Nazi, who is the Antifa, and who is the genuine, history respecting conservative.

[mountaineer]

Are you suggesting Antifa opposes only bona fide Nazis?

I don't think Soros-funded Antifa opposes Nazis (rather, national socialism) at all. They're virulently anti-capitalism, though.

[dfwgator]

I don't think Soros-funded Antifa opposes Nazis (rather, national socialism) at all. They're virulently anti-capitalism, though.

To an Antifa, a "Fascist" is anyone who disagrees with them.

[Crazieman]

I don't think Soros-funded Antifa opposes Nazis (rather, national socialism) at all. They're virulently anti-capitalism, though.

Sorry, you're not sucking the provided line of nazi vs innocent bystander.
You need re-education in the never-trumper camp of nevertrumperism, trump can do no right, and consequently, conservatism is always wrong if trump happens to fall in to it.

[Hoodat]

As for the alt-left, are you trying to claim that Baltimore or Fergusson or Dallas were bloodless? The alt-left has already killed.

But . . . but . . . but that's different.

[mountaineer]

Sorry, you're not sucking the provided line of nazi vs innocent bystander.
You need re-education in the never-trumper camp of nevertrumperism, trump can do no right, and consequently, conservatism is always wrong if trump happens to fall in to it.

Trump has nothing to do with my comment.

[Sanguine]

I don't think Soros-funded Antifa opposes Nazis (rather, national socialism) at all. They're virulently anti-capitalism, though.

And, rabidly anti-American.

[TomSea]

How in your right mind are you seeing my words as somehow defending the alt-left?   How much courage does it take to attack the alt-left on a conservative board?

What we need now is the same courage that Buckley had in the sixties - to firmly and unequivocally REJECT the haters and bigots and fascists who claim to be on "our side" and are ruining our brand and sullying our reputations and ideals.   

Buckley bucked Paranoid Anti-Communists from what I've read. Again, I don't think he should be used to promote a narrative that may not exist so one, may in turn, act self-righteous.

[TomSea]

The Democrats are running with this narrative because the Russian investigations are a bust and as one of the posted articles read, the Democrats accusing others of bigotry and racism is familiar territory to them.

[dfwgator]

There are laws against running people down in the streets. It was one demented SOB who ran a car into a crowd.

Exactly.  The Left throws a hissy-fit whenever we blame Islam when some Lone-Wolf Muslim attacks somebody.  But they are real anxious to pin this on all White Nationalists.

[dfwgator]

The Democrats are running with this narrative because the Russian investigations are a bust and as one of the posted articles read, the Democrats accusing others of bigotry and racism is familiar territory to them.

It's the new "shiny object."

[goatprairie]

What double standard?  Are you suggesting that Nazis and those who oppose them occupy the same moral plane?   

Communists opposed the Nazis in the thirties.  They were both evil. And yes, they occupied the same moral plane.
The antifa and BLM thugs are just as evil as the Nazis and are doing far more damage to the country.
Which side do YOU!!! think is the biggest danger to the country.....a few hundred Nazi idiots or the many thousands of leftist thugs now infesting college campi and other areas? .

[dfwgator]

Statement from Presidents George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush regarding the tragic events last weekend in Charlottesville, Virginia:

"America must always reject racial bigotry, anti-Semitism, and hatred in all forms. As we pray for Charlottesville, we are reminded of the fundamental truths recorded by that city’s most prominent citizen in the Declaration of Independence: we are all created equal and endowed by our Creator with unalienable rights. We know these truths to be everlasting because we have seen the decency and greatness of our country."

And the Left will still call W, "Chimpy McBushitler".

[goatprairie]

Buckley bucked Paranoid Anti-Communists from what I've read. Again, I don't think he should be used to promote a narrative that may not exist so one, may in turn, act self-righteous.

I knew some people who were Birchers.  They were certainly not on the level of Nazis.  I'm sure a number of them were anti-Semitic, but they had jobs, were Christians, and believed in the the constitution.
They just had some really wacky ideas concerning who they thought were communists.  Ike was not a commie.