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From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that...but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.

-Kevin Phillips, Nixon's political strategist

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From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that...but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.

-Kevin Phillips, Nixon's political strategist
yeah, Phillips was the one who propagated the myth. So what?  The fact was many Democrats, including Northerner yours truly,  were turned off by McGovern's leftist campaign.....if appealing to patriotism and condemning leftism is a "southern strategy," then Pubbie pols across the country for the last fifty years have been employing that strategy.

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Say looking in today's news, a protest in India:


http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2278558-thousands-of-protesters-disrupt-traffic-in-indias-financial-capital/?sidebar=morein

These kinds of rallies as in Virginia are always small; not really newsworthy. If Drudge wasn't making a deal of it, I probably would have skipped it.  The forum should cover what is in the news.  Fault the media or myself I guess.

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Say looking in today's news, a protest in India:


http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2278558-thousands-of-protesters-disrupt-traffic-in-indias-financial-capital/?sidebar=morein

These kinds of rallies as in Virginia are always small; not really newsworthy. If Drudge wasn't making a deal of it, I probably would have skipped it.  The forum should cover what is in the news.  Fault the media or myself I guess.

Exactly, the media saw this as a good opportunity to link the White Supremacist marchers with Trump.  That's the only reason they were interested in covering it.


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Meanwhile more people protest at Planned Parenthood offices everyday, and the media never mentions them.

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Louisiana still has a huge, almost half Democratic constituency, Georgia was still Democratic until the 2000s. The argument that is made doesn't even hold up.

As has been said, "smaller government", "lower taxes", "independence", there were issues to appeal to voters on besides the divisive ones.

http://blackrepublican.blogspot.com/2012/06/republicans-and-democrats-did-not.html

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The "Southern Strategy" that began in the 1970's was an effort by Nixon to get fair-minded people in the South to stop voting for Democrats who did not share their values and were discriminating against blacks.  Georgia did not switch until 2004, and Louisiana was controlled by Democrats until the election of Republican Bobby Jindal, a person of color, as governor in 2007.

The timeline doesn't even hold up. Also, let's not forget at times, the Democratic party even appears anti-white, anti-Christian, etc.



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Still trying to erase how Nixon ran his very successful 'Southern strategy' to peel those KKK members and other like-minded voters away.  It was the perfect opportunity, too... what with the Democrats having just passed the civil rights legislation.
Well thanks you for bringing that up, and reminding me to cite Reagan's first campaign stop in 1980, in Alabama, where he gave his "State's Rights" speech.

You seem to be on the wrong site, for your opinions. (you are effectively calling the Republican Party, racist.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan%27s_Neshoba_County_Fair_%22states%27_rights%22_speech
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From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that...but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.

-Kevin Phillips, Nixon's political strategist

You are on the wrong site, if calling Republicans racists is all you have.
"God must love the common man, he made so many of them.�  Abe Lincoln

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Well thanks you for bringing that up, and reminding me to cite Reagan's first campaign stop in 1980, in Alabama, where he gave his "State's Rights" speech.

You seem to be on the wrong site, for your opinions. (you are effectively calling the Republican Party, racist.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan%27s_Neshoba_County_Fair_%22states%27_rights%22_speech

Buckley did a massive service for the GOP for purging the bigots.

Since then, they've crept back in.

Buchanon is a perfect example.  A persona non grata in the GOP till the 2000s, when he was somehow 'rehabilitated'.

And your views represent those pre-Buckley, Nixonian types that have skulked back into the GOP.

If anything, you are the antithesis of Reaganesque conservativism.

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Buckley did a massive service for the GOP for purging the bigots.

Since then, they've crept back in.

Buchanon is a perfect example.  A persona non grata in the GOP till the 2000s, when he was somehow 'rehabilitated'.

And your views represent those pre-Buckley, Nixonian types that have skulked back into the GOP.

If anything, you are the antithesis of Reaganesque conservativism.

One likes to cast stones, as far as I can see, one is pro-Muslim, we might as well, turn the words as you do and say pro-terrorism for the way we see you construe things.   Pro-Diversity, anti-Christian and so on.

You don't put your beliefs on the line while you deprecate the views of conservatives.

As black pro-lifers say, planned parenthood, the Democrats pet cause, kills way more blacks than the Klan ever did. Yet, you may well stand behind the Democratic party.

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HJ seems to preach multi-culturalism, hence, all of this about diversity. This is not really American and some say it is indeed Marxist or Communist as well. The person who is so critical should have their views scrutinized as well; as if calling people bigots is a big, oh my gosh, you know you are right.  Multi-culturalism is basically a religion by the left to replace Christianity.



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I grew up less than 30 miles from here.  Robert E. Lee has always been a hero to me.  And now these white-supremacist Klucker assholes have ruined any chance of keeping these monuments up throughout the Commonwealth.
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Trump could own this moment (in a good way) if he wanted to. Wish I could see his speech.

It was a good opportunity for a home run. Instead, it was an infield hit. Not bad, but not a home run either.

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Buckley did a massive service for the GOP for purging the bigots.

Since then, they've crept back in.

Buchanon is a perfect example.  A persona non grata in the GOP till the 2000s, when he was somehow 'rehabilitated'.

And your views represent those pre-Buckley, Nixonian types that have skulked back into the GOP.

If anything, you are the antithesis of Reaganesque conservativism.

Pure baloney. You are a phony conservative, and cannot respond point by point. Reagan went to Alabama first. Deal with it. (Buchanan didn't run as a Republican.)

I'll say it again. You are on the wrong site, if you simply intend to call Republicans, racists. Before or now.

Why don't you spend as much energy, calling blacks racists, since they vote democrat, the very party of racist Southern of yore, the KKK, etc.?
"God must love the common man, he made so many of them.�  Abe Lincoln


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