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Trump Defends the West
« on: July 10, 2017, 09:08:24 pm »
Trump Defends the West

While critics display their embarrassing ignorance of history.

July 10, 2017  Bruce Thornton
 
President Trump’s ringing defense of Western civilization during his speech in Poland was a welcome answer to the phony cultural relativism, fashionable self-loathing, and smug hypocrisy of leftist Westerners who bash the West but wouldn’t live anywhere else.  So it’s no surprise that the progressive establishment bashed the speech as “racial and religious paranoia,” as one screed in the Atlantic was titled.

That headline, and the essays’ claim that “the West is a racial and religious term” and a dog-whistle for alt-right racists, bespeak a profound ignorance about what defines the West. The core ideas of the West began in the city states of ancient Greece, then for centuries were further elaborated by the Romans before Christianity existed. Most important of these ideas was the notion of citizenship, the belief that the laws and customs comprising the political order were a collective possession of free and equal citizens, not of a king or elite defined by birth and lording over subjects. Power no longer belonged to men, to be used to further their personal status or wealth or ambitions. Power became abstract, embodied in the laws, offices, and electoral procedures used by citizens to make the decisions about who should use power, and for what power should be used.

The principle that power resides in laws, not men, was the foundation stone of our own Constitution and every subsequent political order that vests power in free citizens. And this order exists to ensure and protect political freedom and equality, ideas likewise born in ancient Greece and found only in the West or its imitators.

Thus the other uniquely Western goods that Trump touched on came into existence to protect that unprecedented invention of citizenship and consensual rule. Free speech, for example, the ability of citizens to discuss and deliberate openly without fear of retribution, arose among the ancient Greeks, who had two words for free speech. Search the ancient empires contemporary with the Greeks and you will not find anywhere the ideas of free speech, or constitutional government, or politics, or citizenship, or words expressing each. You will find only power: rule by coercion and force.

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Re: Trump Defends the West
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2017, 09:11:01 pm »
Dang! And I get in trouble for not  Excerpting.

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Re: Trump Defends the West
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2017, 09:19:56 pm »
please respect established rules concerning excerpting, lawyers are very expensive @truth_seeker

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Re: Trump Defends the West
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2017, 09:25:13 pm »
please respect established rules concerning excerpting, lawyers are very expensive @truth_seeker
Fine. The Townhall pieces, ask that they be posted on Facebook, by the way. But I will commence to snip, a bit.

No comment about what has been credited as a highly significant speech? Trump has stood up for America, for our leadership, and against Islamic terrorism and Islamic imperialism.

Did Obama do that? Would Hillary have done that?

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Re: Trump Defends the West
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2017, 09:45:14 pm »
Fine. The Townhall pieces, ask that they be posted on Facebook, by the way. But I will commence to snip, a bit.

No comment about what has been credited as a highly significant speech? Trump has stood up for America, for our leadership, and against Islamic terrorism and Islamic imperialism.

Did Obama do that? Would Hillary have done that?



   My question to you @truth_seeker is WWCD  (What would President Cruz do)?  Your 'Binary' thing is thin, Cyanide or Arsenic, either way your dead.

   Obviously, between your stale dialogue and these fresh crafted beers, you have managed to push my button.
   Gonna go burn some chicken on the pit, then I'm gonna come back in here and blame you, damnit!
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Re: Trump Defends the West
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2017, 09:56:22 pm »
   My question to you @truth_seeker is WWCD  (What would President Cruz do)?  Your 'Binary' thing is thin, Cyanide or Arsenic, either way your dead.

   Obviously, between your stale dialogue and these fresh crafted beers, you have managed to push my button.
   Gonna go burn some chicken on the pit, then I'm gonna come back in here and blame you, damnit!
Simple. I did believed, and continue to believe that Cruz would have lost (quite badly) to Hillary. The thing which attracts certain folks on the political spectrum to Cruz, is nowhere enough to win nationally.

I like Cruz. I liked Goldwater, when I was a teen, and our parents liked him.  But Cruz and Goldwater have more in common, than folks outside Texas, and conservatism, care to admit.



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Re: Trump Defends the West
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2017, 02:52:16 am »
Trump Defends the West

While critics display their embarrassing ignorance of history.

July 10, 2017  Bruce Thornton
 
President Trump’s ringing defense of Western civilization during his speech in Poland was a welcome answer to the phony cultural relativism, fashionable self-loathing, and smug hypocrisy of leftist Westerners who bash the West but wouldn’t live anywhere else.  So it’s no surprise that the progressive establishment bashed the speech as “racial and religious paranoia,” as one screed in the Atlantic was titled.

It really was a great speech; very well worth the time it takes to read it:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/07/06/remarks-president-trump-people-poland-july-6-2017


And about that "paranoia" ... all that "irrational fear" the Poles are feeling
about the "suffering" the Poles imagine might occur
under some hypothetical socialist utopian regime ruling over them ...
you know, like Naziism or Communism...

The dishonesty of left wing propagandists in publications like The Atlantic,
and the ignorance and gullibility of their followers
is TRULY staggering!
If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion,
mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.
   -- John Stuart Mill

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