Trump in Iowa: President calls for barring immigrants from welfare for five years

[corbe]

Can't lay this one on Congress, my brother. It's the President who enforces the laws, and only the President.

If this law already exists, which it does (Clinton signed it), Trump doesn't need to "call for" anything. All he needs do is direct the agencies he is responsible for to enforce the law. 30 seconds on the phone, tops. Of course, doing that means taking responsibility with no one else to blame. 

   Doing as you suggest @EC would remove this chunk of red meat for his supporters in his continuing campaign. We witnessed in the last 8 years how screwed up Reince made the GOP, it appears he's using the same magic in the Trump Administration, all talk no action.

[Cripplecreek]

Maybe the people who attend his rallies think they are auditioning for his reality show.  kind of like the thousands of kids who used to show up for American Idol auditions.
Admittedly a neverevertrumper, I have yet to hear a coherent statement of fact on any topic.   His energy comments in Iowa were more than a bit baffling.
Didn't watch or hear him but read the transcript.  Yikes.

They certainly lack self respect.

How little they must think of themselves to cheer being lied to and then repeat a new lie that the first lie was strategy.

[Cripplecreek]

   Doing as you suggest @EC would remove this chunk of red meat for his supporters in his continuing campaign. We witnessed in the last 8 years how screwed up Reince made the GOP, it appears he's using the same magic in the Trump Administration, all talk no action.

Trump is president, the buck stops with him. All this blaming everyone else for Trump's failures is nothing but cowardice.

[Hoodat]

   Doing as you suggest @EC would remove this chunk of red meat for his supporters in his continuing campaign. We witnessed in the last 8 years how screwed up Reince made the GOP, it appears he's using the same magic in the Trump Administration, all talk no action.

If only we could have had an anti-GOPe President who called out Mitch McConnell for the liar he is and who would have handed people like Priebus their walking papers.  Instead, we get a President whose donations saved McConnell from an anti-establishment challenge and who handed Priebus the keys to the White House.

[Suppressed]

Maybe the people who attend his rallies think they are auditioning for his reality show.  kind of like the thousands of kids who used to show up for American Idol auditions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttmsiU-GZlg

[GtHawk]

Yeah.  That crap.  You believe it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315115/Shocking-US-government-leaflet-tells-Mexican-immigrants-collect-food-stamp-benefits-admitting-theyre-country-illegally.html

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/19/usda-partnering-with-mexico-to-boost-food-stamp-participation/

http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/feds-caught-promoting-welfare-to-foreigners/

Yeah, I believe this crap because I seen it first hand with people I personally knew on construction sites and through my experience the short time I was on assistance.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Where does 5 years come from?

Why not 50?

It's called "Re-elect us" 'cause if you don't the Dems won't Renew our Welfare Ban.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Can't lay this one on Congress, my brother. It's the President who enforces the laws, and only the President.

If this law already exists, which it does (Clinton signed it), Trump doesn't need to "call for" anything. All he needs do is direct the agencies he is responsible for to enforce the law. 30 seconds on the phone, tops. Of course, doing that means taking responsibility with no one else to blame. 

I wish it were that easy, but we both know what the 9th and 4th Circuits did to the President's completely within his legislated prerogatives and powers Travel Ban.

It's got so out of hand that he can't even Enforce the already extant laws on the books without an Activist Judiciary pulling obstructionist opinions out of the terminus of their own Superior Colons.

[DB]

I wish it were that easy, but we both know what the 9th and 4th Circuits did to the President's completely within his legislated prerogatives and powers Travel Ban.

It's got so out of hand that he can't even Enforce the already extant laws on the books without an Activist Judiciary pulling obstructionist opinions out of the terminus of their own Superior Colons.

That goes back to POTUS forcing the issue to the supreme court demanding a ruling.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

That goes back to POTUS forcing the issue to the supreme court demanding a ruling.

I'm afraid I'm not following you here.

The Travel Ban was legal. The Court's injunctions against it were off the wall.

How else could the WH get the Judicial usupation in this dealt with?

National Guard?

It was the Courts who blew it, not Trump, so taking it upstairs to SCOTUS seems to be the corrective needed.

[DB]

I'm afraid I'm not following you here.

The Travel Ban was legal. The Court's injunctions against it were off the wall.

How else could the WH get the Judicial usupation in this dealt with?

National Guard?

It was the Courts who blew it, not Trump, so taking it upstairs to SCOTUS seems to be the corrective needed.

I thought that is what I essentially said only with the addition Trump needs to push it there.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

I thought that is what I essentially said only with the addition Trump needs to push it there.

If I misread your intent DB, then I apologize.

[DB]

If I misread your intent DB, then I apologize.

No problem at all. I don't write very well...

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Yeah, I believe this crap because I seen it first hand with people I personally knew on construction sites and through my experience the short time I was on assistance.

It must have sucked standing in line at the welfare office with all those scumbags

[Chosen Daughter]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315115/Shocking-US-government-leaflet-tells-Mexican-immigrants-collect-food-stamp-benefits-admitting-theyre-country-illegally.html

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/19/usda-partnering-with-mexico-to-boost-food-stamp-participation/

http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/feds-caught-promoting-welfare-to-foreigners/

Yeah, I believe this crap because I seen it first hand with people I personally knew on construction sites and through my experience the short time I was on assistance.

I work in Manufacturing and see this stuff all the time.  They know how to work the system.  And if they are together they don't marry.  Just have the children on the state.

[GtHawk]

It must have sucked standing in line at the welfare office with all those scumbags

Well I wouldn't know but go ahead and tell me about your experience, or are you just into insults, fantasy ans stupidity? So far I would say you are an ace at all three. Interesting that you think only scumbags have to turn to welfare at some point, what a low opinion you have of fellow Americans and what a ridiculously poor understanding of what so many Americans went through under obama's misadministration. Must be awesome to be as special as you, personally I have never ridden the short bus.......myself.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I work in Manufacturing and see this stuff all the time.  They know how to work the system.  And if they are together they don't marry.  Just have the children on the state.

I like you.  I think you are a woman of uncommon common sense and I find that you express your opinion aggressively, yet with style, dignity, and grace.  This forum is richer for your contributions.  So when we disagree please understand that I hold you in the highest esteem.

I have worked in the automotive, janitorial, and fast food industry for the last 17 years.  I've met a few illegals over the years too, but I won't respond with anecdotes because I live near and work in Madison, WI.  It is definitely a sanctuary city and my opinion on illegal immigration can't help but be shaped by my experience. 

IMO Illegals often work 3 jobs for crappy pay, they kick in a big chunk of their paycheck to a retirement Ponzi scheme called Social Security, and they know that if they get angry, and pissy with anybody they trust, they can get a letter sent to ICE and their family ripped apart, or sent to a country they don't remember.

IMO getting rid of illegals does very little for my country and will cause great harm if it is done stupidily.  Unfortunately My president is a very, very stupid man.

The illegals I have met didn't carry plagues or pandemics, or commit murder or rape, or deal drugs to school children, in any higher rates than our native born Americans.

...or American homosexual cannibal serial killers, native born Islamic terrorists, and native born mail bombing Earth-Firsters. 

I believe illegals are a great scapegoat to avoid the real problem.  An easily exploited social safety net.

Getting rid of the illegals leaves a nation of fatter and older people...again this is just my opinion.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Well I wouldn't know but go ahead and tell me about your experience, or are you just into insults, fantasy ans stupidity? So far I would say you are an ace at all three. Interesting that you think only scumbags have to turn to welfare at some point, what a low opinion you have of fellow Americans and what a ridiculously poor understanding of what so many Americans went through under obama's misadministration. Must be awesome to be as special as you, personally I have never ridden the short bus.......myself.

those illegals receive better medical care and more benefits paid for by taxpayers then legal and native born Americans

I'm still waiting for some evidence of great medical care for Illegals...I can't say I've kept up on the latest Trumpbart articles, NumbersUSA press releases, and St*rmfront posts, but I haven't seen the story of the illegal sent to the Mayo clinic for observation, or some such, please provide a link for that awesome healthcare (better than LEGAL care) link.  Thanx in advance.

[Sanguine]

...IMO getting rid of illegals does very little for my country and will cause great harm if it is done stupidily.  Unfortunately My president is a very, very stupid man.

The illegals I have met didn't carry plagues or pandemics, or commit murder or rape, or deal drugs to school children, in any higher rates than our native born Americans....

I've heard that before, but unfortunately for us, it is incorrect.  Just look at the number of "foreign-born" prisoners in the federal system if you want to blow that little fantasy out of the water.

And, there are other reasons that illegal aliens are not are net positive to us.  Many people have stated reasons on this board, but you must have managed to miss them all.

[Bigun]

I like you.  I think you are a woman of uncommon common sense and I find that you express your opinion aggressively, yet with style, dignity, and grace.  This forum is richer for your contributions.  So when we disagree please understand that I hold you in the highest esteem.

I have worked in the automotive, janitorial, and fast food industry for the last 17 years.  I've met a few illegals over the years too, but I won't respond with anecdotes because I live near and work in Madison, WI.  It is definitely a sanctuary city and my opinion on illegal immigration can't help but be shaped by my experience. 

IMO Illegals often work 3 jobs for crappy pay, they kick in a big chunk of their paycheck to a retirement Ponzi scheme called Social Security, and they know that if they get angry, and pissy with anybody they trust, they can get a letter sent to ICE and their family ripped apart, or sent to a country they don't remember.

IMO getting rid of illegals does very little for my country and will cause great harm if it is done stupidily.  Unfortunately My president is a very, very stupid man.

The illegals I have met didn't carry plagues or pandemics, or commit murder or rape, or deal drugs to school children, in any higher rates than our native born Americans.

...or American homosexual cannibal serial killers, native born Islamic terrorists, and native born mail bombing Earth-Firsters. 

I believe illegals are a great scapegoat to avoid the real problem.  An easily exploited social safety net.

Getting rid of the illegals leaves a nation of fatter and older people...again this is just my opinion.

I always knew you would out yourself eventually and with this post you have accomplished the feat with great clarity!

[Suppressed]

Still waiting for Trump to follow up his words with action...

Tick, tick, tick...crickets...

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I'm still waiting for some evidence of great medical care for Illegals...I can't say I've kept up on the latest Trumpbart articles, NumbersUSA press releases, and St*rmfront posts, but I haven't seen the story of the illegal sent to the Mayo clinic for observation, or some such, please provide a link for that awesome healthcare (better than LEGAL care) link.  Thanx in advance.

http://www.fairus.org/DocServer/research-pub/USCostStudy_2013upd.pdf

Also, there is a large cost associated with illegals in our community due to the excess risks they place on us for the spread of diseases they have not been innoculated for.  This causes a burden onto the rest of Americans directly due to presence of illegals.

[Sanguine]

http://www.fairus.org/DocServer/research-pub/USCostStudy_2013upd.pdf

Also, there is a large cost associated with illegals in our community due to the excess risks they place on us for the spread of diseases they have not been innoculated for.  This causes a burden onto the rest of Americans directly due to presence of illegals.

Yeah, I was referring to the societal cost also.

[Emjay]

I like you.  I think you are a woman of uncommon common sense and I find that you express your opinion aggressively, yet with style, dignity, and grace.  This forum is richer for your contributions.  So when we disagree please understand that I hold you in the highest esteem.

I have worked in the automotive, janitorial, and fast food industry for the last 17 years.  I've met a few illegals over the years too, but I won't respond with anecdotes because I live near and work in Madison, WI.  It is definitely a sanctuary city and my opinion on illegal immigration can't help but be shaped by my experience. 

IMO Illegals often work 3 jobs for crappy pay, they kick in a big chunk of their paycheck to a retirement Ponzi scheme called Social Security, and they know that if they get angry, and pissy with anybody they trust, they can get a letter sent to ICE and their family ripped apart, or sent to a country they don't remember.

IMO getting rid of illegals does very little for my country and will cause great harm if it is done stupidily.  Unfortunately My president is a very, very stupid man.

The illegals I have met didn't carry plagues or pandemics, or commit murder or rape, or deal drugs to school children, in any higher rates than our native born Americans.

...or American homosexual cannibal serial killers, native born Islamic terrorists, and native born mail bombing Earth-Firsters. 

I believe illegals are a great scapegoat to avoid the real problem.  An easily exploited social safety net.

Getting rid of the illegals leaves a nation of fatter and older people...again this is just my opinion.

You show a lot of compassion and much of what you say is true but the whole point is that illegals are committing a crime and it is evident by how you referred to them throughout your comment.

We can't be a nation without borders or we're not a nation at all.  These illegals that you defend have already committed a crime and should attempt to get citizenship or leave.

And, by the way, what have you got against old, fat people?

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I always knew you would out yourself eventually and with this post you have accomplished the feat with great clarity!

Arrrggghhh!!! You got me Bigun.  After 8 years and 7,000 posts I thought I was foolin' you, but you saw right through me didn't you?  And now I stand before the whole world stripped of my shameful facade.  How in the world did I think I would get away with it?  I guess all I can do now is beg forgiveness for trying to mislead you all, even though I don't deserve forgiving, and I am probably not remorseful in the slightest.  I curse myself for having crossed your path, and stupidly falling into your trap.

I have to ask...you say you "always knew" but did you really suspect I was one of Them in July of 2009?  That kind of persistence is amazing and sorely lacking from today's youth.  Eight years of bidding your time, waiting for that one moment I would slip up and you could pounce and strike your blow for Truth!!!

I guess if I had to be outed I couldn't have picked a more worth adversary.  Touché, Sir.