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Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil

By Cristina Corbin
Published June 13, 2017
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Cincinnati –  A plane carrying Otto Warmbier, the U.S. college student arrested, tried and imprisoned in North Korea for more than a year, and who is now in a coma, landed in his hometown of Cincinnati Tuesday night and he was rushed to a hospital for urgent medical treatment.

The U.S. military flight landed at Lunken Airport at approximately 10:20pm ET and was met by an ambulance en route to the University of Cincinnati Medical Center.

A U.S. official confirmed to Fox News that Warmbier, 22, was in a coma and had been for "over a year." The official added that the North Koreans told the U.S. that Warmbier contracted botulism before slipping into a coma. However, the two U.S. doctors traveling with him have not been able to confirm that claim, the official said.

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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2017, 03:01:44 pm »
I hope that our medical experts can help this young man and find out what happened to him.
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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2017, 05:19:46 pm »
Unbelievable.  In a coma for over a year?  I suspect they had to hold him long enough for evidence of the beatings to heal. 

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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2017, 09:38:35 pm »
He remains unavailable for comment.

(One does wonder why they held him for so long after they botched him into a coma.)
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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2017, 09:40:08 pm »
He remains unavailable for comment.

(One does wonder why they held him for so long after they botched him into a coma.)

Waiting for his skull fracture to heal.

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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2017, 09:50:28 pm »
Waiting for his skull fracture to heal.

Then why didn't they just croak him?  This seemed like an awfully roundabout way of doing things.
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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2017, 09:58:33 pm »
I hope that our medical experts can help this young man and find out what happened to him.

If he has been in a coma for a year the help part is unlikely
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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2017, 10:02:27 pm »
If he has been in a coma for a year the help part is unlikely

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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2017, 12:35:09 am »
Then why didn't they just croak him?  This seemed like an awfully roundabout way of doing things.

Why didn't they release him when it was clear he wasn't coming out of his coma?

Dunno, maybe 'died in custody' sounded worse than 'he contracted botulism, oh well'.

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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2017, 02:32:33 pm »
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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2017, 02:35:11 pm »
If he has been in a coma for a year the help part is unlikely

I read one report that indicated he was semi-conscious on the medical flight.   
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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2017, 02:37:29 pm »
Just saw presser with Otto Warmbier's dad who said they were tired of "strategic patience" and getting no help form the previous administration including John Kerry. The current administration worked hard to get their son home.

The kid was supposedly "lured in" to a "safe" tour. He liked adventure.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2017, 02:40:49 pm »
Just saw presser with Otto Warmbier's dad who said they were tired of "strategic patience" and getting no help from the previous administration including John Kerry. The current administration worked hard to get their son home.

The kid was supposedly "lured in" to a "safe" tour. He liked adventure.

North Korea does that.   The CCTV image of someone taking down the poster could even be a set up.  The image quality was so bad it could have been anyone on the video. 

North Korea has a long history of kidnapping people.  From movie stars to english teachers.   Heck they tried to pull me out of the back door of a coffee shop in South Korea.
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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2017, 02:44:29 pm »
I read one report that indicated he was semi-conscious on the medical flight.

Depends on the definition of semi-conscious.  Either way it doesn't sound good if he has been in that condition for over a year
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2017, 02:46:40 pm »
North Korea does that.   The CCTV image of someone taking down the poster could even be a set up.  The image quality was so bad it could have been anyone on the video. 

North Korea has a long history of kidnapping people.  From movie stars to english teachers.   Heck they tried to pull me out of the back door of a coffee shop in South Korea.

You were almost kidnapped? When did this happen and why were you there in SK?
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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2017, 02:49:46 pm »
Depends on the definition of semi-conscious.  Either way it doesn't sound good if he has been in that condition for over a year

I don't doubt for a second they beat him but I don't see how they'd keep him alive for a year.   The only source for the year long coma story is the NOKOs and they are hardly a trustworthy source.   

I hope he recovers but it seems hes got tough odds.
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2017, 02:52:33 pm »
You were almost kidnapped? When did this happen and why were you there in SK?

I was there for the Air Force and started going downtown to coffee shops.  Mostly to meet girls, real ones and not the hooker variety that were in the bars they preferred Americans go to.    Lots of university students and professors would go to the coffee shops.   They liked to practice their english and I liked to practice my....er Korean.  This was about '91 .
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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2017, 03:01:20 pm »
I was there for the Air Force and started going downtown to coffee shops.  Mostly to meet girls, real ones and not the hooker variety that were in the bars they preferred Americans go to.    Lots of university students and professors would go to the coffee shops.   They liked to practice their english and I liked to practice my....er Korean.  This was about '91 .

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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2017, 03:05:07 pm »
I was there for the Air Force and started going downtown to coffee shops.  Mostly to meet girls, real ones and not the hooker variety that were in the bars they preferred Americans go to.    Lots of university students and professors would go to the coffee shops.   They liked to practice their english and I liked to practice my....er Korean.  This was about '91 .

Not too many years ago over there a US service member was kidnapped, driven to a stadium full of people (there for a soccer game or something), and forced to publicly apologize because some time before a korean school kid was hit by a US military vehicle.
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2017, 03:12:53 pm »
Not too many years ago over there a US service member was kidnapped, driven to a stadium full of people (there for a soccer game or something), and forced to publicly apologize because some time before a korean school kid was hit by a US military vehicle.

Yeah I could see that happening.   It was crazy driving there and they do tend to hold all Americans responsible for the poor actions of a few.  Kids there would hold up their hand and dash across the street.  They had the right of way. 

These folks knew who I was, my name, my job, my work phone number etc.   I was a regular at the coffee shop.
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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2017, 06:12:48 pm »
North Korea does that.   The CCTV image of someone taking down the poster could even be a set up.  The image quality was so bad it could have been anyone on the video. 

North Korea has a long history of kidnapping people.  From movie stars to english teachers.   Heck they tried to pull me out of the back door of a coffee shop in South Korea.

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Re: Otto Warmbier: American student freed by North Korea back on US soil
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2017, 08:14:42 pm »
I posted this on another thread but it doesn't look good for this kid.

I couldn't finish the article it made me sick.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/15/politics/otto-warmbier-north-korea/index.html
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2017, 08:16:49 pm »
I posted this on another thread but it doesn't look good for this kid.

I couldn't finish the article it made me sick.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/15/politics/otto-warmbier-north-korea/index.html

They may have used him for experiments.  Hopefully there is no biological agent involved.
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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2017, 08:19:20 pm »
I'm thinking it would have made a difference if Obama had tried and succeeded to get him out right away........   **nononono*
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2017, 08:21:52 pm »
They may have used him for experiments.  Hopefully there is no biological agent involved.

I'd bet a weeks pay he was beaten into a coma.