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Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?

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Offline corbe

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Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« on: May 26, 2017, 08:40:42 pm »
   Since certain Briefers are claiming an overwhelming Trump hate on this site I thought that perhaps I’d go to the Source-The Briefers themselves, who make this place such an Interesting Experience, regardless of views on OUR President.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2017, 08:51:21 pm »
About 8-10 are so anti Trump they call themselves  conservatives but I don't know at this point. I do know their anti trump hatred is doing nothing but helping liberals.

Jeesh help the guy out willya? So far I think TRump is doing  a great job.

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2017, 08:55:33 pm »
Those who see anything critical of Trump or what he does as hate and supporting the 'coup', MSM media/Hillary/Democrats will insist that TBR is full of Trump hate. 

The rest of us who still value foundational principles of Conservatism and are not shy of pointing out where Trump and his Administration fail in upholding them, will not.

Simple as that.

I find it hilarious that a people who support a lifelong NYC liberal Democrat who is now the GOP standard-bearer, are the very people insisting that anyone who does not support everything the lifelong NYC liberal Democrat says and does, is "helping liberals".

I find that hilarious.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2017, 09:15:12 pm »
Sorry, when he acts like a dumbass lib (read: like he has for most of his life) I'm gonna call him on it.  When he acts contrary to the Founders vision, I'm gonna call him on it.  When he gets it right, I will tip my hat and say, " well done, sir"

That is not someone's ridiculous notion of Trump hate...that's called "holding true to one's principles" and being intellectually honest.   The kool-aid drinkers should try it sometime.   It's quite liberating.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2017, 09:40:41 pm »
And when 'overblown' wins handily (as it should, as well as if the question were asked in the opposite), it will be proof that the site is full of 'haters'.

Seriously, it's about time for a new version of Godwin's Law.  Call someone a hater, you lose all credibility.  It's just such a childish tactic.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2017, 09:42:59 pm »
Some people simply cannot see the forest for all the damned trees!
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2017, 09:50:16 pm »
Sorry, when he acts like a dumbass lib (read: like he has for most of his life) I'm gonna call him on it.  When he acts contrary to the Founders vision, I'm gonna call him on it.  When he gets it right, I will tip my hat and say, " well done, sir"

That is not someone's ridiculous notion of Trump hate...that's called "holding true to one's principles" and being intellectually honest.   The kool-aid drinkers should try it sometime.   It's quite liberating.

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IMHO thats not being a Trump hater.   Although I do detest the man we are stuck with him.    With Obama we had a man who was actively doing everything he could to make America weaker.  Obama hates everything America stands for.

I don't think Trump hates America.   Trump is a privileged boy who has never had to answer for any of his mistakes, of which there are plenty.   He has almost no morals, is a poor communicator, and not a deep thinker.   He has the attention span of a gnat.

However he doesn't hate America or our traditional allies.  He has made some good moves so far.  If he'd stay off twitter and only speak from prepared notes (aka telepromter in chief) his weaknesses would be far less apparent and his enemies would have far less ammunition.   Some of his enemies don't need much though to start screaming.   For example there's a massive thread here about his wife slapping his hand and what it might mean.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2017, 09:54:54 pm »
There are only a handful of #NT's and #AT's but they are all louder than hell and spam the shit out of threads.

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2017, 09:59:53 pm »
   Since certain Briefers are claiming an overwhelming Trump hate on this site I thought that perhaps I’d go to the Source-The Briefers themselves, who make this place such an Interesting Experience, regardless of views on OUR President.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2017, 10:01:07 pm »
And when 'overblown' wins handily (as it should, as well as if the question were asked in the opposite), it will be proof that the site is full of 'haters'.

Seriously, it's about time for a new version of Godwin's Law.  Call someone a hater, you lose all credibility.  It's just such a childish tactic.

It the site were full of "haters" wouldn't they win the poll numbers?

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2017, 10:24:35 pm »
There are only a handful of #NT's and #AT's but they are all louder than hell and spam the shit out of threads.

   Only one Man has said it better than you @Frank Cannon



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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2017, 10:32:49 pm »
Am I Brown Nosing again?


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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2017, 11:00:12 pm »
There are only a handful of #NT's and #AT's but they are all louder than hell and spam the shit out of threads.

@Frank Cannon @Axeslinger

I went to a thread today (FBI leaking security info) and lo and behold, you (Frank) out-of-the-blue make a wise crack about us non-buttkissers for not being on the thread commenting. I have seen that several times lately by Trump worshipers. Just how pathetic are you guys?


Seriously just how bad do you want us to follow in line. I used to march in band before becoming the Drum Major, do you want a high step too? Is there a secret handshake, perhaps a certain salute you want? Perhaps a Trump only section?

You can have the last word, seriously this subject is not worth the time to respond. I agree with Axe, when President Trump does something worthy of praise, give it, when not, don't mince words.

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2017, 11:11:42 pm »
There's probably a half dozen on either side. Then there's a big group of us in the middle who aren't fan boys and girls, but applaud him when he does right and chastise when he screws up.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2017, 11:14:12 pm »
Oh Geez..not this shit again..

It seems there an awful lot of people on both the left and right who need their safe space...

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2017, 04:11:16 pm »
@Frank Cannon @Axeslinger

I went to a thread today (FBI leaking security info) and lo and behold, you (Frank) out-of-the-blue make a wise crack about us non-buttkissers for not being on the thread commenting. I have seen that several times lately by Trump worshipers. Just how pathetic are you guys?


Seriously just how bad do you want us to follow in line. I used to march in band before becoming the Drum Major, do you want a high step too? Is there a secret handshake, perhaps a certain salute you want? Perhaps a Trump only section?

You can have the last word, seriously this subject is not worth the time to respond. I agree with Axe, when President Trump does something worthy of praise, give it, when not, don't mince words.

Here's my problem with your bullshit. There are actual crimes and abuses taking place and you #NT's just continue to vomit proven lies spoon fed to you by WaPo and NY Times bashing Donny. If you people showed the same level of anger and contempt at these other things I would be fine with it, but going off on a 20 pages of hate at the President for something that is proven false the next day is GD retarded.

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2017, 04:31:15 pm »
I give Trump crap precisely because he is OUR president.

And I try to be even handed with other members, mods, and admin because I also view you all the same as I do trump in that 'respect':

Fair Game.

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2017, 04:33:55 pm »
Does Trump have flaws? Absolutely.

But is there a better alternative out there?   I sure don't see it.

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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2017, 04:35:55 pm »
Here's my problem with your bullshit. There are actual crimes and abuses taking place and you #NT's just continue to vomit proven lies spoon fed to you by WaPo and NY Times bashing Donny. If you people showed the same level of anger and contempt at these other things I would be fine with it, but going off on a 20 pages of hate at the President for something that is proven false the next day is GD retarded.

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2017, 04:50:09 pm »
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2017, 05:15:00 pm »
Does Trump have flaws? Absolutely.

But is there a better alternative out there?   I sure don't see it.

So jump on the bandwagon? I think not.
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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2017, 05:21:20 pm »
So jump on the bandwagon? I think not.
I am here to promote Conservatism, not liberalism.

And just how do you promote Conservatism?  Talk is cheap.  And like it or not, Trump is the only thing standing in the way of the Deep State, which will forever ruin any chance of Conservatism ever having a chance in this country.  No, Trump isn't Conservative by our standards, I get that.  But, at least he still gives us a fighting chance.

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2017, 05:24:37 pm »
And just how do you promote Conservatism?  Talk is cheap.  And like it or not, Trump is the only thing standing in the way of the Deep State, which will forever ruin any chance of Conservatism ever having a chance in this country.  No, Trump isn't Conservative by our standards, I get that.  But, at least he still gives us a fighting chance.

Deep State? Oh, for cryin out loud.

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What will ruin Conservatism is defending liberalism as conservatism.
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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2017, 05:37:29 pm »
And just how do you promote Conservatism?  Talk is cheap.  And like it or not, Trump is the only thing standing in the way of the Deep State, which will forever ruin any chance of Conservatism ever having a chance in this country.  No, Trump isn't Conservative by our standards, I get that.  But, at least he still gives us a fighting chance.

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Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2017, 05:57:12 pm »
Poll needs a third option - boring.
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