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Offline libertybele

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Re: This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2017, 03:45:05 pm »
Does he have proof of just spouting BS without proof???

I would politely ask you to pull your head out of the sand for a minute.  How much proof do you need??  Do you ever recall at anytime, the DEMS and the RINO's state that he will be a one term president and they will make sure of it?  Do you ever recall the Clinton campaign stating that the Russians hacked the system (even though not connected to the internet) and that's why she lost?  The lies and accusations have never stopped.  The attacks are now on a daily basis and I'm not buying into what's being fed to us for a second in order to control us. 

If we don't help this President and support him, I sincerely hope that everyone has prepared to some degree or another with; water, food, gold, silver, guns and some ammo. 
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Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2017, 04:01:25 pm »
Kurt Schlichter is a joke.

He spent months deriding Trump voters as ethically and morally degenerate until he decided to join them. He's just giving Trump the usual back alley behind the dumpster service.

Schlichter has criticized Trump from the right and he defends Trump against the left. How terrible.
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« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2017, 05:02:43 pm »
You see, this is why some of us are pushing for an Article V convention.  It's something that hasn't been tried before, and that the administrative state doesn't know how to fight and is terrified of.  As for Trump, I wish him well and will be happy to support his actions when he does constitutional, liberty-affirming things.  I'll oppose him when he does unconstitutional, liberty-decreasing things.  But I'll put most of my efforts into making the things he (and the rest of the federal government) does less important and having less effect on the American people.
My political philosophy:

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Re: This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2017, 08:49:54 pm »
Hysterical Hyperbole

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« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2017, 09:11:18 pm »
This isn't a coup, it is a reality TV show with characters and made up drama. The conspiracies, outrage, drama, romance, villians, and heroes are all molded to fit with a narriative.  This isn't 'against' the people, it is targeting what the people want, drama, to keep their eyes glued to the media providers who are running the show.  Like with most reality shows, none of the characters are who you want them to be, they are playing a role.

When we 'fight back' we have to start with ourselves and what we demand of our information, media, and even government. We want it to entertain us and solve our problems. We created this monster.

I happen to agree. The media basically created Trump, and Trump craved the attention the media gives him.
Trump is good for ratings.

I've said before, there is a symbiotic nature or a parasite/host thing going on.
Now that The relationship has gotten strained, Trump calls them "fake news" and the media finds fault with every little slight, we should remember, the media outnumbers Trump.

Is it a coup against our very way of life?
I think there are fringe elements on the left, that would want that.
But, no, I don't think this is the end of the Republic.

No, this is merely the MSM going after Trump, but it not as if he didn't asked for it.
Of course, the media should be called out for their overzealous attempts to make Trump out to be worse than he is.
Yet,  Trump, will, and has, said things just to get the media talking about him.
Should he be called out for that?
I think so.
 I actually heard Steve Bannon on Breitbart Radio, back during the primaries, before Trump won, and put him on his staff, call Trump out on one of Thump's exaggerated claims.
We should hold both accountable.
There are massive egos on both sides of this relationship, and either will not give in unless we start calling them out.
Call BS on anyone in the media stirring this up, and on all politicians who do it as well.


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« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2017, 09:55:11 pm »


I've said before, there is a symbiotic nature or a parasite/host thing going on.
Now that The relationship has gotten strained, Trump calls them "fake news" and the media finds fault with every little slight, we should remember, the media outnumbers Trump.

All part of the show. Both sides are pretending Trump is something he isn't.

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« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2017, 10:14:11 pm »

The reality is the 'enemy' is centralized authortarian government and the left and right are playing the game together. They aren't battling against the people as though we are an opponent, we are the spoils of war they want. The game is being played like a reality TV show (or wrasslin match) and the battlefield is the media, who can get the most eyes on their story at any time and who can demand from their side a government champion

There it is.

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Demanding a government champion (on either side) in this battle is like rooting for the wrassler you like on the WWE to beat the other guy for you... the point is completely missed that they are all characters.

Shades of Mocking Jay... And inevitably right.

Which is why I vote on record, and pay no mind at all to the show. Which all Conservatives used to do.
It is no guarantee, but it approximates one. A man's record is 99% of the time, more about who he is, than what he says.

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« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2017, 10:37:51 pm »
This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves -

That made me laugh.

This people have little desire to govern themselves.  They look to politics for salvation; they desire men to rule them; see government as their god and Arbiter of all things fair; to administer Payback and punishment by those lions they see as their generals while rejecting and resisting the very Fundamental things necessary for a free people to be self-governing.

They don't want to hear about it because they say God isn't running for office and we must take our picks from lesser men who demonstrate a sufficient lack of character and morality.  There is no perfect, and therefore striving for it makes you an enemy of good.

They are not interested in hearing about the very heart, soul and keys that would enable them to be self-governing.  They have placed all of their faith in the institutions of men, politicians and other people instead of that which created Liberty as we were gifted to begin with.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2017, 10:40:03 pm »
One can make the argument is the enemy's arm's dealer. Kind of like those guys in Florida who were arming Iraqi insurgents under the guise of working for our own State Department.

The reality is the 'enemy' is centralized authortarian government and the left and right are playing the game together. They aren't battling against the people as though we are an opponent, we are the spoils of war they want. The game is being played like a reality TV show (or wrasslin match) and the battlefield is the media, who can get the most eyes on their story at any time and who can demand from their side a government champion.

Demanding a government champion (on either side) in this battle is like rooting for the wrassler you like on the WWE to beat the other guy for you... the point is completely missed that they are all characters.
Just like rasslin', when the show is over, they'll all get their cut.
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Re: This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2017, 10:41:08 pm »
Yup, I'll agree with you on that. Although I would add, Obama twice, and Trump once (so far).   10294

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« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2017, 10:52:24 pm »
The Trump Side has a war cry: "This is a coup against our right to poop ourselves!"

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« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2017, 02:50:47 am »
Still wishing Hillary was elected I see. 

Still wishing the Republicans had nominated a Conservative with principle and integrity and the courage to stand on them no matter what.
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« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2017, 02:58:21 am »
You are correct.

Anyone who has watched the "news" lately on the major networks or read the screaming headlines issuing forth daily from the NYT-WaPo Axis knows or ought to know that something both coordinated and unprecedented is happening.

And it ought to scare the hell out of you, because our culture is increasingly made of brittle and dry tinder, just waiting for a match.

I am no big fan of Donald Trump, as anyone here knows. The right reasons, the right time... but the wrong guy. His character and experience, or rather the lack of both have made him the perfect target for a Perfect Storm of Progressive bureaucrats, media mongers, institutionally-funded social justice warriors and congressional staffers, who are all working together to reverse the result of the 2016 election and stop the Republican agenda cold in its tracks.

And that, I am certain, is just for starters.   

Trump's problems are of his own making. Any GOPer was bound to take heat. Even Romney.

I'm tired of Trump and his moron defenders not allowing him to take any blame. And I simply don't accept it.

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Re: This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2017, 02:58:27 am »
Kurt Schlichter is a joke.

He spent months deriding Trump voters as ethically and morally degenerate until he decided to join them. He's just giving Trump the usual back alley behind the dumpster service.

Could you anti-Trump people please stop making nasty references.  Mystery had to caution people on that dump Trump thread.

Can't we be grownups here.

As for that post by Schlicter, he is exactly right.
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« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2017, 02:59:29 am »
Could you anti-Trump people please stop making nasty references.  Mystery had to caution people on that dump Trump thread.

Can't we be grownups here.

As for that post by Schlicter, he is exactly right.

Good lord you Trumpsters are a bunch of little whiny babies. You're worse than your hero.
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« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2017, 03:00:28 am »
The Trump Side has a war cry: "This is a coup against our right to poop ourselves!"

  @geronl
   Must be something in the water around here  :beer: 
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« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2017, 03:03:56 am »
The premise that there is a coup going on and a coordinated campaign by liberals and their allies in the bureaucracy and media to once and for all ensure their perpetual rule over us is definitely no joke. 

We damn well start fighting back or we will lose this country ... we are on the brink.

Way too many people simply do not understand that or refuse to listen.

They are way too caught up in their own rhetoric and dislike of Trump to see the big picture.

The big picture is not Trump...you may not like him but he is not the enemy.

The enemy is the left, enraged at losing an election they KNEW they would win, they are throwing all their resources into damaging or destroying a duly elected President.  Whether you voted for him or not... whether you like him or not ... he was elected and he has done nothing to warrant the attacks or the impeachment cries from the left.

I have literally begged all these whiners to tell me what they want.  They cannot or they will not.

I can only assume they want to vent whatever the consequences.
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« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2017, 03:05:56 am »
Does he have proof of just spouting BS without proof???

So ... suddenly spouting BS without proof offends you when it's someone making sense.
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« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2017, 03:07:12 am »
   Woe there @Weird Tolkienish Figure hold that mule @Emjay is a lady, due respect, yea, her politics can be far away from us as where she lives, at times, but this sappy ba$tard Will defend her integrity- for at least a little while, till she really steps off the deep end for which she has not, yet.
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« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2017, 03:08:42 am »
   Woe there @Weird Tolkienish Figure hold that mule @Emjay is a lady, due respect, yea, she her politics can be far away from us as where she lives, at times, but this sappy ba$tard Will defend her integrity- for at least a little while, till she really steps off the deep end for which she has not, yet.

She's full of shit. There's more than enough nastiness coming from the Trumpsters.

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« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2017, 03:08:55 am »
If it's a coup it begs the question which side is Trump on?  His twitter feed is the liberal's greatest weapon.

This is a common misconception.  Trump has tweeted nothing actionable.  He's tweeted what he's thinking at that particular moment.  He's always done this.  Get over it.
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« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2017, 03:11:56 am »
Could you anti-Trump people please stop making nasty references.  Mystery had to caution people on that dump Trump thread.

Can't we be grownups here.

Don't hold your breath @Emjay


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« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2017, 03:12:33 am »
Still wishing Hillary was elected I see. 

The author is exactly right, the uniparty elites funded by your pal George Soros are attempting to overturn the results of our election. If they succeed America as we know it is finished. We will join the global socialist government and we will be serfs in all but name. Just imagine one big Mexico with a tiny very wealthy ruling class, a small professional middle class that works for the ruling class and a huge impoverished lower class.

You are correct.  Totally.  But I must remind you that a certain group of posters here have forbidden us to mention Hillary. 

They are like  .... oh, bringing out the Hillary weapon again to defend Trump.

You will be attacked for it in 3 .. 2 ...1
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« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2017, 03:15:54 am »
I would politely ask you to pull your head out of the sand for a minute.  How much proof do you need??  Do you ever recall at anytime, the DEMS and the RINO's state that he will be a one term president and they will make sure of it?  Do you ever recall the Clinton campaign stating that the Russians hacked the system (even though not connected to the internet) and that's why she lost?  The lies and accusations have never stopped.  The attacks are now on a daily basis and I'm not buying into what's being fed to us for a second in order to control us. 

If we don't help this President and support him, I sincerely hope that everyone has prepared to some degree or another with; water, food, gold, silver, guns and some ammo.

I'm not buying into it either but it's amazing how many people are lapping it up with apparent joy.

They won't tell me what they want to accomplish by this.  Do they know?  Or care?

The sirens went off for an hour here.  They are warning of a tsunami in which case we're supposed to head for the hills.  I think they warn too much.  When one comes, we may not head for the hills.

But the warnings here should be heeded.
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« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2017, 03:16:41 am »
   It's possible that the recent influx of all the homeless, disillusioned Freepers suddenly that has your panties in a wad and she, like our other Resident Trumpsters do feel emboldened by them, but that's still no reason to take it out on her.  @Emjay   pick on someone your own size

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