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Dow dropped over 300 points. 

The Trump agenda, including tax reform and healthcare reform, is dead. 

Judges will be nominated and languish in limbo while the liberals retain their judicial majorities on the federal benches.

North Korea, China and the European Union will see this as a castrated President and will act accordingly to their own benefits.

But what really matters is Russia.  The single entity that covers up Obama's illegal listening, recording and unmasking and pushes Hillary's criminal activities out of our collective memories, and is being used successfully to bring down the sitting President.


But, hey, it's all good.  Who needs this GD orange clown?

You must really hate Jeff Sessions right now.

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Dow dropped over 300 points. 

The Trump agenda, including tax reform and healthcare reform, is dead. 

Judges will be nominated and languish in limbo while the liberals retain their judicial majorities on the federal benches.

North Korea, China and the European Union will see this as a castrated President and will act accordingly to their own benefits.

But what really matters is Russia.  The single entity that covers up Obama's illegal listening, recording and unmasking and pushes Hillary's criminal activities out of our collective memories, and is being used successfully to bring down the sitting President.


But, hey, it's all good.  Who needs this GD orange clown?






Your lot foisted the Orange Jerk on us. 

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You must really hate Jeff Sessions right now.

:bigsilly:

Somehow, "we told you so" just doesn't quite seem to do it justice (so to speak).

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Steve Deace just tweeted that, given Mueller's reputation, if he finds nothing the matter should be put to bed for good.

Who believe that will happen? These things are intended to go on for years, people will be indicted for "obstruction" and "perjury" for things that have absolutely nothing to do with Russia and the election because the way these farces are designed its almost impossible to not give conflicting or incomplete testimony.

Even if Mueller tries to wrap up his investigation expeditiously the democrats and their GOP allies will not allow it to die. They will endlessly expand the investigation because of the 'appearance of impropriety'.

We've seen it all before.

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Sessions recused himself on anything Russia.....it was Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein who made this call.
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:bigsilly:

Somehow, "we told you so" just doesn't quite seem to do it justice (so to speak).

You haven't told me shit. You seem to think that if Trump didn't win the McMuffin would be President.

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You haven't told me shit. You seem to think that if Trump didn't win the McMuffin would be President.

"Told you so" goes all the way back to the primaries.
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FORMER FBI DIRECTOR ROBERT MUELLER NAMED SPECIAL COUNSEL FOR FBI RUSSIA-TRUMP PROBE

Just Breaking on Fox News
Most of the comment I have heard so far focuses on the Trump campaign collusion with Russia however, it appears the appointment is for a special counsel to oversee probe of Russian interference in the election.   President Trump has been in a political office for a total of less than five months in his entire life and prior to the actual election date in November, no one gave him any chance of winning.  While there was no reason for the Russian government to waste any time on Mr. Trump, there was every reason for them to attempt to influence Mrs. Clinton.  There is also a substantial record of their involvement with her, her family, and associates for many years.

If the election is the mandate, then Russian involvement with both candidates would be at issue.  The media will not direct the investigation, facts will.  A big part of potential Russian interference was release of DNC and Podesta emails along with potential penetration of Mrs. Clinton's email server.  To look at those areas of potential interference, content will have to be looked at as well as cooperation with past investigations and compliance with security requirements.  Neither the media or democratic politicians will have control of the agenda.  Remember, the Obama administration was in control all during the election and for two months thereafter.  With an honest investigation, there is a lot for democrats to worry about.  Unless we are going to make it a crime for a novice to win an upset victory, I don't see anything for the President to be concerned about from a legal standpoint. 

Legally on solid footing but from a public relations standpoint, who knows when a 3:00 am twitter storm will upset the apple cart.

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Dow dropped over 300 points. 

The Trump agenda, including tax reform and healthcare reform, is dead. 

Judges will be nominated and languish in limbo while the liberals retain their judicial majorities on the federal benches.

North Korea, China and the European Union will see this as a castrated President and will act accordingly to their own benefits.

But what really matters is Russia.  The single entity that covers up Obama's illegal listening, recording and unmasking and pushes Hillary's criminal activities out of our collective memories, and is being used successfully to bring down the sitting President.


But, hey, it's all good.  Who needs this GD orange clown?

@Right_in_Virginia

Geez dear lady are you completely divisional ....
and/or delusional

This is the grown up way to deal with this...

Mueller is credible, he won't be rolled by the liberal media and there is nothing for the Trump supporters to be worried about if  there is nothing there....  :shrug::shrug:
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You must really hate Jeff Sessions right now.

Must be really confusing looking for someone to blame this on since it was a decision made by the Trump Administration.
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Most of the comment I have heard so far focuses on the Trump campaign collusion with Russia however, it appears the appointment is for a special counsel to oversee probe of Russian interference in the election.   President Trump has been in a political office for a total of less than five months in his entire life and prior to the actual election date in November, no one gave him any chance of winning. While there was no reason for the Russian government to waste any time on Mr. Trump, there was every reason for them to attempt to influence Mrs. Clinton.  There is also a substantial record of their involvement with her, her family, and associates for many years.

If the election is the mandate, then Russian involvement with both candidates would be at issue.  The media will not direct the investigation, facts will.  A big part of potential Russian interference was release of DNC and Podesta emails along with potential penetration of Mrs. Clinton's email server.  To look at those areas of potential interference, content will have to be looked at as well as cooperation with past investigations and compliance with security requirements.  Neither the media or democratic politicians will have control of the agenda.  Remember, the Obama administration was in control all during the election and for two months thereafter.  With an honest investigation, there is a lot for democrats to worry about.  Unless we are going to make it a crime for a novice to win an upset victory, I don't see anything for the President to be concerned about from a legal standpoint. 

Legally on solid footing but from a public relations standpoint, who knows when a 3:00 am twitter storm will upset the apple cart.

Trump has business interests throughout the world. In order for those business interests to exist Trump would have needed the permission of the Russian Mafia which is a de facto arm of the Russian government. The American mafia are choirboys  when compared to the Russian state mafia. Anyone who has spent any time living out of the country is very well aware of the ruthless nature of these guys and its their way or the highway or you are likely dead.

Seems to me Trump felt he was the only one in on the the secret that everyone else knew...
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Most of the comment I have heard so far focuses on the Trump campaign collusion with Russia however, it appears the appointment is for a special counsel to oversee probe of Russian interference in the election.   President Trump has been in a political office for a total of less than five months in his entire life and prior to the actual election date in November, no one gave him any chance of winning.  While there was no reason for the Russian government to waste any time on Mr. Trump, there was every reason for them to attempt to influence Mrs. Clinton.  There is also a substantial record of their involvement with her, her family, and associates for many years.

If the election is the mandate, then Russian involvement with both candidates would be at issue.  The media will not direct the investigation, facts will.  A big part of potential Russian interference was release of DNC and Podesta emails along with potential penetration of Mrs. Clinton's email server.  To look at those areas of potential interference, content will have to be looked at as well as cooperation with past investigations and compliance with security requirements.  Neither the media or democratic politicians will have control of the agenda.  Remember, the Obama administration was in control all during the election and for two months thereafter.  With an honest investigation, there is a lot for democrats to worry about.  Unless we are going to make it a crime for a novice to win an upset victory, I don't see anything for the President to be concerned about from a legal standpoint. 

Legally on solid footing but from a public relations standpoint, who knows when a 3:00 am twitter storm will upset the apple cart.

I think that's a good analysis of the situation. Who knows where it will really lead as long as Trump can keep his mouth shut on its progression.

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  It's almost a forgone conclusion at this point, It's like appointing Dick Cheney to head your Vice President Selection Committee.


I would trust Dick Cheney with my life.  You ... not so much.
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   Jeez yall are a bunch of whiners, How do you possibly tolerate all the Trump hate that you perceive has permeated every corner of the Forum?         You're making me want to donate to JR's $325K/yr scam to get the Servers up quicker to be free of all this Drama.

Well, for gosh's sake, go then.  You made the first cynical post on this thread ... with the Dick Cheney thing.
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Well, for gosh's sake, go then.  You made the first cynical post on this thread ... with the Dick Cheney thing.

   @Emjay you got ME wrong again, I love Dick Cheney his Daughter I'm not to impressed with but he's good.  Asking me to GO? Where can I go, no one loves me, by the way I apologized and made a confession to you personally earlier.
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This is the grown up way to deal with this...

Mueller is credible, he won't be rolled by the liberal media and there is nothing for the Trump supporters to be worried about if  there is nothing there....  :shrug: 

Yes, I assure I know ... @montanajoe ... I've been experimenting with "thinking" like a NT.

I don't recommend it.  One of the side effects is serious gastrointestinal distress.  I don't know how they do it. 

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Most of the comment I have heard so far focuses on the Trump campaign collusion with Russia however, it appears the appointment is for a special counsel to oversee probe of Russian interference in the election.   President Trump has been in a political office for a total of less than five months in his entire life and prior to the actual election date in November, no one gave him any chance of winning.  While there was no reason for the Russian government to waste any time on Mr. Trump, there was every reason for them to attempt to influence Mrs. Clinton.  There is also a substantial record of their involvement with her, her family, and associates for many years.

If the election is the mandate, then Russian involvement with both candidates would be at issue.  The media will not direct the investigation, facts will.  A big part of potential Russian interference was release of DNC and Podesta emails along with potential penetration of Mrs. Clinton's email server.  To look at those areas of potential interference, content will have to be looked at as well as cooperation with past investigations and compliance with security requirements.  Neither the media or democratic politicians will have control of the agenda.  Remember, the Obama administration was in control all during the election and for two months thereafter.  With an honest investigation, there is a lot for democrats to worry about.  Unless we are going to make it a crime for a novice to win an upset victory, I don't see anything for the President to be concerned about from a legal standpoint. 

Legally on solid footing but from a public relations standpoint, who knows when a 3:00 am twitter storm will upset the apple cart.

I agree that it goes beyond Trump and would mostly damage Clinton. I disagree that they didn't try to influence the election his way. We know there are a ton of phony news sites coming out of Russia, many of which just wanting to make a dime, but also apparently influencing. Trump was also making Russia favorable policy statements that was out of line for the past few administrations, specifically around the issue of Ukraine.

It would actually be normal for Russia, or any other major nation, to influence our election in their favor. I suspect Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, and many others had their hands in, either directly or indirectly, every single major candidate.

Trump wasn't distancing himself from Russia until near the end when it was used as an issue. Up until this campaign, he and his sons were even bragging about how much money they had coming in from Russia. One of Trump's primary business partners was Bayrock Group which was founded by Tevfik Arif who used to be the USSR's Minister of Commerce and Trade.

Long story short, the denials of having 'zero interests or connections with Russia' is BS. It is too extreme of a denial considering the facts of his history. Or, as the old saying goes: Me thinks he doth protest too much.

And these connections would be no big deal if he didn't make such a big deal about denying them. They would be normal connections but his loud denials raise a lot of suspicion he is hiding something bigger- that or he is just a dumbass.
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Your lot foisted the Orange Jerk on us.

Hey genius, I've been posting like an NT today.  All I can say is:  I have to give you credit, I don't know how you do it and keep any food down.

And as for foisting the President on you; I'm looking forward to doing it all over again in 2020.  Only this time I'll be more vocal.   88devil

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Democrats might regret their Russia fantasy campaign if it leads to a REAL and honest investigation.

The fake scandal is the real story, and it has a lot of Democrat fingerprints on it.

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Trump has business interests throughout the world. In order for those business interests to exist Trump would have needed the permission of the Russian Mafia which is a de facto arm of the Russian government..

Trump apparently owes quite a lot of money to Russian banks.

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Democrats might regret their Russia fantasy campaign if it leads to a REAL and honest investigation.

The fake scandal is the real story, and it has a lot of Democrat fingerprints on it.

I'm hoping this is eventually filed at the DNC under "Be Careful What You Wish For". 

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Trump apparently owes quite a lot of money to Russian banks.

Do you have a link for this? 

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Who believe that will happen? These things are intended to go on for years, people will be indicted for "obstruction" and "perjury" for things that have absolutely nothing to do with Russia and the election because the way these farces are designed its almost impossible to not give conflicting or incomplete testimony.

Even if Mueller tries to wrap up his investigation expeditiously the democrats and their GOP allies will not allow it to die. They will endlessly expand the investigation because of the 'appearance of impropriety'.

We've seen it all before.

Then maybe.... those testifying should pull a page out of the Hillary playbook and simply say "I don't recall".  It worked for her.  (I know, I know.... magic "D")
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