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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #675 on: May 19, 2017, 04:45:00 pm »
Nonsense, @INVAR

While the Republican Party will get bloated with Blue Dogs, their grown children will witness the economic and defensive improvements as they get ready to vote for the 1st time.

True...the coming amnesty of sorts...whatever...eventually, those 30 million in the shadows will be voting.

They are the new  elusive 'independent" vote....that 20% that could go supposedly either way.

Again, I say, they've been working and living in the shadows but they're not blind either.

My money is on the Republican Party.

A compassionate conservative party when compared to the Communists on the Left.

Proof that dreams of utopia don't just live within the Democrat party.

Good luck with all that, considering the principles you and your pro-Trump compatriots have sh*t on have no place in your party.

Oh.... you added the 'Compassionate Conservative' to the recipe. 

We saw what that really meant with Bush.

Enjoy your new "moderate" Democrat Party.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #676 on: May 19, 2017, 04:54:16 pm »
Proof that dreams of utopia don't just live within the Democrat party.

Good luck with all that, considering the principles you and your pro-Trump compatriots have sh*t on have no place in your party.

Oh.... you added the 'Compassionate Conservative' to the recipe. 

We saw what that really meant with Bush.

Enjoy your new "moderate" Democrat Party.

If the alternative Party is a National Worker's Socialist....I certainly will.   

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #677 on: May 19, 2017, 04:55:40 pm »
@DCPatriot

Okay, I see what you meant.   My mistake.   888oops888

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #678 on: May 19, 2017, 05:04:29 pm »
If the alternative Party is a National Worker's Socialist....I certainly will.   

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Well, that explains a lot.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #679 on: May 19, 2017, 05:05:55 pm »
If the alternative Party is a National Worker's Socialist....I certainly will.   

I live in 'Realville'.

And in five years you will get the pleasure of making a binary choice between either Mao's Party or Mussolini's Party.

Have fun... in "Realville".
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #680 on: May 19, 2017, 05:53:31 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia

For you alone my dear!


I'll say again ... I agree with the basic conservative principles:  minimal government interference, a return to Federalism, a strong national and global defense, including law and order at home and defined, protected borders.  I am for freedom of speech, for all opinions, the elimination of protected classes of citizenship, and a slaying of the victim mentality and a return to personal responsibility (although I don't know how we legislate this).  On social issues, I stand firmly behind the rights of the unborn. 

The other social issues ... I am not inclined to fight.  Fighting gives them a spotlight and prestige they do not deserve. These other social issues are not a political battle worth more blood and deeper isolation.  We should teach our children, set an example-- but not demand a candidate support part of the government's role is to enforce our personal beliefs--as deeply held at they may be.   

I think everything that was listed in the post I responded to is the endgame---hence my rainbows and lollipops reply.  There is no magic wand or magic candidate to bring all that about. 

But it was Donald Trump, not Ted Cruz, not Jeb Bush, not Rand Paul, not Marco Rubio, not Ben Carson, not Chris Christie, not John Kasich, not Carly Fiorina, not Scott Walker, not Lindsey Graham, not Bobby Jindal, not Rick Santorum, not Mike Huckabee, not George Pataki and not Jim Gilmore - - -  who figured out a way to get us back on the field and in the game

"Conservatives" can hate the coach, even hate the ones who support him, but that's not a good enough reason not to pull with the team and help the President win as many games as we can.

So, please, enough with the demands for conservative purity and immediate results.  Enough with holding on to a hurt from nearly a year ago.  It was politics.  If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen. 

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #681 on: May 19, 2017, 06:00:05 pm »
I'll say again ... I agree with the basic conservative principles:  minimal government interference, a return to Federalism, a strong national and global defense, including law and order at home and defined, protected borders.  I am for freedom of speech, for all opinions, the elimination of protected classes of citizenship, and a slaying of the victim mentality and a return to personal responsibility (although I don't know how we legislate this).  On social issues, I stand firmly behind the rights of the unborn. 

The other social issues ... I am not inclined to fight.  Fighting gives them a spotlight and prestige they do not deserve. These other social issues are not a political battle worth more blood and deeper isolation.  We should teach our children, set an example-- but not demand a candidate support part of the government's role is to enforce our personal beliefs--as deeply held at they may be.   

I think everything that was listed in the post I responded to is the endgame---hence my rainbows and lollipops reply.  There is no magic wand or magic candidate to bring all that about. 

But it was Donald Trump, not Ted Cruz, not Jeb Bush, not Rand Paul, not Marco Rubio, not Ben Carson, not Chris Christie, not John Kasich, not Carly Fiorina, not Scott Walker, not Lindsey Graham, not Bobby Jindal, not Rick Santorum, not Mike Huckabee, not George Pataki and not Jim Gilmore - - -  who figured out a way to get us back on the field and in the game

"Conservatives" can hate the coach, even hate the ones who support him, but that's not a good enough reason not to pull with the team and help the President win as many games as we can.

So, please, enough with the demands for conservative purity and immediate results.  Enough with holding on to a hurt from nearly a year ago.  It was politics.  If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen.

@Right_in_Virginia

For as long as Trump continues to move the ball toward those conservative ideals I'm all in!  The instant he signs on to something like single payer health insurance I run like hell for the exit!
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #682 on: May 19, 2017, 06:15:21 pm »

@Right_in_Virginia

It was politics.  If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen. 

Two way street there RIV!!!!    Who is the one whining about witch hunts?
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #683 on: May 19, 2017, 06:29:30 pm »
Two way street there RIV!!!!    Who is the one whining about witch hunts?

What the hell is wrong with calling a witch hunt a witch hunt?  Do you deny that Trump is the subject of a witch hunt - deliberate action to try to force him from the Presidency?   That's sure as hell what it looks like to me.

What you espouse is the classic tactic of a bully -  harass your victim and then,  when the victim complains, attack the victim as a whiner.   

It is not whining to point out that one is being bullied.   The left and far too many conservatives are trying to overturn the results of a free and fair election.  Kudos to the President for calling it by its rightful name.  And shame on you for coming on like a moral pygmy.   
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #684 on: May 19, 2017, 06:35:50 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia

For as long as Trump continues to move the ball toward those conservative ideals I'm all in!  The instant he signs on to something like single payer health insurance I run like hell for the exit!

Fair enough!   :beer:

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #685 on: May 19, 2017, 06:37:11 pm »
Two way street there RIV!!!!    Who is the one whining about witch hunts?

Your question has nothing to do with my post.  :seeya:

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #686 on: May 19, 2017, 06:51:30 pm »
Your question has nothing to do with my post.  :seeya:

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Keep telling your self that.   When it is someone else suffers arrows in the political realm besides the Orange leader, it is kitchen heat or  butt hurt.   Turn it back around on his orangeness, who has gone into full "whine" mode.....well   all the sudden it doesn't become releavant.   You're pretty funny lady.   :silly:
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #687 on: May 19, 2017, 07:12:01 pm »
"Conservatives" can hate the coach, even hate the ones who support him, but that's not a good enough reason not to pull with the team and help the President win as many games as we can.

So, please, enough with the demands for conservative purity and immediate results.  Enough with holding on to a hurt from nearly a year ago.  It was politics.  If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen.

mere Republcan-ism

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #688 on: May 19, 2017, 07:12:38 pm »
And in five years you will get the pleasure of making a binary choice between either Mao's Party or Mussolini's Party.

Have fun... in "Realville".
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #689 on: May 19, 2017, 07:16:36 pm »

"Conservatives" can hate the coach, even hate the ones who support him, but that's not a good enough reason not to pull with the team and help the President win as many games as we can.

Just more proof that to you people, this is all just another sporting event to rah-rah and cheer for and get blood pressure invested.

Your team sucks, and we're done following it.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #690 on: May 19, 2017, 07:23:04 pm »
I'll say again ... I agree with the basic conservative principles:  minimal government interference, a return to Federalism, a strong national and global defense, including law and order at home and defined, protected borders.  I am for freedom of speech, for all opinions, the elimination of protected classes of citizenship, and a slaying of the victim mentality and a return to personal responsibility (although I don't know how we legislate this).  On social issues, I stand firmly behind the rights of the unborn. 

The other social issues ... I am not inclined to fight.  Fighting gives them a spotlight and prestige they do not deserve. These other social issues are not a political battle worth more blood and deeper isolation.  We should teach our children, set an example-- but not demand a candidate support part of the government's role is to enforce our personal beliefs--as deeply held at they may be.   

I think everything that was listed in the post I responded to is the endgame---hence my rainbows and lollipops reply.  There is no magic wand or magic candidate to bring all that about. 

But it was Donald Trump, not Ted Cruz, not Jeb Bush, not Rand Paul, not Marco Rubio, not Ben Carson, not Chris Christie, not John Kasich, not Carly Fiorina, not Scott Walker, not Lindsey Graham, not Bobby Jindal, not Rick Santorum, not Mike Huckabee, not George Pataki and not Jim Gilmore - - -  who figured out a way to get us back on the field and in the game

"Conservatives" can hate the coach, even hate the ones who support him, but that's not a good enough reason not to pull with the team and help the President win as many games as we can.

So, please, enough with the demands for conservative purity and immediate results.  Enough with holding on to a hurt from nearly a year ago.  It was politics.  If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen.

You "legislate" personal responsibilty by ending gov't incentive for being irresponsible.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #691 on: May 19, 2017, 07:23:52 pm »
You "legislate" personal responsibilty by ending gov't incentive for being irresponsible.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #692 on: May 19, 2017, 07:29:50 pm »
YES!!!!

But neither the dems nor repubs are interested in doing that because then people will think they're just a bunch of meanies and won't vote for them.  And the false conservatives here will never stand for that because then their guy won't be "in power".  No matter if he really is interested in forwarding conservative principles or not.  This is Republicanism, not conservatism.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #693 on: May 19, 2017, 07:52:12 pm »
You "legislate" personal responsibilty by ending gov't incentive for being irresponsible.

Sounds simple.   Which incentive would you start with?  @RoosGirl   And then what should be next?

Thanks.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #694 on: May 19, 2017, 07:53:00 pm »
You "legislate" personal responsibilty by ending gov't incentive for being irresponsible.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #695 on: May 19, 2017, 07:55:02 pm »
Sounds simple.   Which incentive would you start with?  @RoosGirl   And then what should be next?

Thanks.

First thing, stop giving food stamps to fat people.  Duh.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #696 on: May 19, 2017, 07:56:48 pm »
You "legislate" personal responsibilty by ending gov't incentive for being irresponsible.



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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #697 on: May 19, 2017, 08:02:05 pm »
mere Republcan-ism

So what? @roamer_1 ... Are you going to let "Republican" prevent you from being heard?  Having a chance at governing?  Maybe even winning the big prize some day?

You're not big enough for a team in the majors ... you've got to join one. 

Or maybe not.  Maybe all this whining and bit*^hing and lashing out in fear and anger works for you and is enough for you.   

Whatever  :shrug:   

It's your choice.  Live long and prosper.   

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #698 on: May 19, 2017, 08:03:10 pm »


Most intelligent statement I have read on this website today.   

Where do you start @DiogenesLamp ?  Where do you stop?

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #699 on: May 19, 2017, 08:03:13 pm »
But neither the dems nor repubs are interested in doing that because then people will think they're just a bunch of meanies and won't vote for them. 



And why would the American Public think they are a bunch of meanies?    Could it have to do with the Histrionic repetitious propaganda which the New York Liberal Democrat Controlled Broadcasting systems would start cranking out at volume level 11?   


Could it be that public opinion is being driven by a Trillion dollar broadcasting system in the hands of Wealthy Liberals in New York and Los Angeles?   


It's a machine,  and if you aren't afraid of it,  you simply don't understand what it has the power to do.


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