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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #300 on: May 18, 2017, 12:52:56 am »
He did threaten to "primary" conservatives - and no one else.

And the Trump militant wonders why we are not rushing to Trump's defense against "unwarranted" attacks from the MSM and the general ugliness that both Trump and the Left are engaged, with both of their supporters having targeted Conservatives.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #301 on: May 18, 2017, 01:48:53 am »
I take it you meant 'canard', otherwise plz define.

all of them, in the end.

Not a matter of butthurt in the least. It amazes me how often y'all accuse it of me.

I am against Trump because I will not (ever) consciously associate myself with a man of deprecable character.
I am against Trump because he is a liberal, and has always been a liberal. His thinking is liberal, his family is liberal, and all that will not change, even though you might hope for the 'Road to Damascus' conversion he proclaims.

Precisely why I am no longer a Republican. I am not impressed with the idea that I must fall in line behind the 'Won'. I find it a deplorable trait. I will ever follow those of merit, or I will lead. But I do not salute the brass for the brass's sake.

Talking points, subject to change... And changing already.

His agenda is bullsh*t meant to dance you down the garden path.
What possible reason would one have for believing a man who literally cannot prevent himself from lying for ten minutes? He lies like a rug, and yet you believe him.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #302 on: May 18, 2017, 01:54:38 am »
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #303 on: May 18, 2017, 02:05:16 am »
But, honestly @roamer_1 how much can we be expected to endure?  Some of us, myself included, fought long and hard for a different type of leader to pull this country back to the right direction and at the least break up the deep state.

I am convinced such expectations were sheer folly.  And I'll admit, it is time for President Trump to pack his bags, or we'll pack them for him.  It's just enough.

I am inclined to believe they will allow Pence to assume the Presidency.  He'll be neutered, but at least we'll hold the office.

I envision a Paul Ryan type, or Paul Ryan himself, selected as VP ... and after muted and sparse gnashing of teeth, the Senate, including the majority of Democrats, will confirm the nominee. It will be hailed as the first act of reconciliation after the disaster of Donald Trump.  And this reconciliation will be the hallmark of all legislation.

The nightmare and the turmoil will be over and a sense of normalcy will be returned.  Hell, even here friendship and civility will return.  Enough with the fight.  It's too exhausting.

Whoa ... gird your loins, baby.  We have just begun to fight.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #304 on: May 18, 2017, 02:05:17 am »
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #305 on: May 18, 2017, 02:07:51 am »
When will Republicans embrace Conservatism?

That's really the $64,000 question. But as @Right_in_Virginia informs us, conservatism is unelectable. Taking that nugget of wisdom to its logical conclusion, we should just go ahead and come to terms with the fact that our noble experiment in representative self-governance is circling the drain in ever tightening spirals.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #306 on: May 18, 2017, 02:08:18 am »
The possibility of me having a stroke makes you laugh @mrpotatohead ?
Not at all....   His sarcasm has me laughing.  Obviously it was a joke.  Lighten up........

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #307 on: May 18, 2017, 02:12:17 am »
You've given up far too easy. The sense of normalcy you speak of is the fall of this country under a mountain of unfunded liabilities 200+ trillion dollars, larger growth of centralized government further removing decisions from the states to the Feds, full invasion of illegals with the amnesty party, larger influence pushed by lobbiests to the GOP and their money masters, continued erosions of our freedoms from socialist liberals with no fight from spineless feckless repukelicans and ultimately a totalitarian state led by marxists.

Sorry but Trump is barely 3 months in and we want to concede? How about fighting against the very people who are at the center of this? Our spineless GOPe.

Yes!! and Yes.  I'm certainly not ready to concede to the libs and the media.  They have done nothing but create chaos.  We are believing a guy most of us didn't trust even before he was fired.

Comey went from Goat to Hero in 24 hours by the liberals.

Thank goodness that Trump is the man he is.  For all his negative qualities, he does have total confidence in himself.  We won't see any of this namby pamby 'I'm tired' and 'I give up' from him.

Actually he's gone about his business during this fiasco, making speeches to the military and in support of the police.

Trump WILL serve his full term with or without the help of any of us or any of his supposed comrades in Congress.

Sheesh.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #308 on: May 18, 2017, 02:13:51 am »
@beandog

Do you think Pence is a man without ambition?  He's a politician, after all.
I thought all the "true" conservatives wanted a man of character, not a man of political ambition.  How can you trust someone who does things just for political ambition, not because it's the right thing to do.  So what you're telling me is Pence is know better than any other politician. :shrug:

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #309 on: May 18, 2017, 02:16:05 am »
Thank goodness that Trump is the man he is.  For all his negative qualities, he does have total confidence in himself.  We won't see any of this namby pamby 'I'm tired' and 'I give up' from him.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #310 on: May 18, 2017, 02:19:45 am »
That's really the $64,000 question. But as @Right_in_Virginia informs us, conservatism is unelectable. Taking that nugget of wisdom to its logical conclusion, we should just go ahead and come to terms with the fact that our noble experiment in representative self-governance is circling the drain in ever tightening spirals.
I'll be bitter and jaded, but I'll at least go out singing. 

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That's not it at all.

The ONLY way the LEFT will be defeated is for Donald Trump to succeed in his economic agenda, so that millions MORE Democratic voters will cross-over as Trump's Blue Dogs.

The 'Conservative' being discussed here will NOT negotiate for SOME of what they want.   They want it all or they'll find another candidate who they believe can deliver, on that which they deem important.

They are going to have to recognize the binary choice together with the real threats facing the Constitution today, and essentially STFU, stop their whining and get behind President Donald Trump.

But they won't.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #311 on: May 18, 2017, 02:21:01 am »
That's really the $64,000 question. But as @Right_in_Virginia informs us, conservatism is unelectable. Taking that nugget of wisdom to its logical conclusion, we should just go ahead and come to terms with the fact that our noble experiment in representative self-governance is circling the drain in ever tightening spirals.
I'll be bitter and jaded, but I'll at least go out singing. 

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #312 on: May 18, 2017, 02:22:31 am »
That's not it at all.

The ONLY way the LEFT will be defeated is for Donald Trump to succeed in his economic agenda, so that millions MORE Democratic voters will cross-over as Trump's Blue Dogs.

The 'Conservative' being discussed here will NOT negotiate for SOME of what they want.   They want it all or they'll find another candidate who they believe can deliver, on that which they deem important.

They are going to have to recognize the binary choice together with the real threats facing the Constitution today, and essentially STFU, stop their whining and get behind President Donald Trump.

But they won't.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #313 on: May 18, 2017, 02:22:48 am »
That's not it at all.

The ONLY way the LEFT will be defeated is for Donald Trump to succeed in his economic agenda, so that millions MORE Democratic voters will cross-over as Trump's Blue Dogs.

The 'Conservative' being discussed here will NOT negotiate for SOME of what they want.   They want it all or they'll find another candidate who they believe can deliver, on that which they deem important.

They are going to have to recognize the binary choice together with the real threats facing the Constitution today, and essentially STFU, stop their whining and get behind President Donald Trump.

But they won't.

This ENTIRE circus is being orchestrated to make sure that Trump gets nothing done and they are succeeding greatly at the moment.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #314 on: May 18, 2017, 02:23:19 am »
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #315 on: May 18, 2017, 02:24:10 am »
I thought all the "true" conservatives wanted a man of character, not a man of political ambition.  How can you trust someone who does things just for political ambition, not because it's the right thing to do.  So what you're telling me is Pence is know better than any other politician. :shrug:

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Don't be silly, no one ever said they wanted a man with no ambition, and if they had, it wouldn't have made sense.  How does a person become president without wanting it and working for it?  Ambition isn't negative in itself.

Right, that's exactly what I'm telling you.  Were you under the impression he's a saint or something?

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #316 on: May 18, 2017, 02:25:13 am »
That's not it at all.

The ONLY way the LEFT will be defeated is for Donald Trump to succeed in his economic agenda, so that millions MORE Democratic voters will cross-over as Trump's Blue Dogs.

The 'Conservative' being discussed here will NOT negotiate for SOME of what they want.   They want it all or they'll find another candidate who they believe can deliver, on that which they deem important.

They are going to have to recognize the binary choice together with the real threats facing the Constitution today, and essentially STFU, stop their whining and get behind President Donald Trump.

But they won't.
That's because being "right" is more important to some than doing the right thing. :shrug:

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #317 on: May 18, 2017, 02:26:01 am »
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #318 on: May 18, 2017, 02:26:46 am »
That's not it at all.

The ONLY way the LEFT will be defeated is for Donald Trump to succeed in his economic agenda, so that millions MORE Democratic voters will cross-over as Trump's Blue Dogs.

The 'Conservative' being discussed here will NOT negotiate for SOME of what they want.   They want it all or they'll find another candidate who they believe can deliver, on that which they deem important.

They are going to have to recognize the binary choice together with the real threats facing the Constitution today, and essentially STFU, stop their whining and get behind President Donald Trump.

But they won't.

    And that's why that Commandment about Adultery says it's ok on Thursdays only./s
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #319 on: May 18, 2017, 02:27:05 am »
"Look at the way I've been treated lately, especially by the media. No politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly." - President Trump

I actually heard him say that and truer words were never spoken.

He did not follow up that statement with saying how tired he was or that he couldn't take it anymore.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #320 on: May 18, 2017, 02:27:35 am »

They are going to have to recognize the binary choice together with the real threats facing the Constitution today, and essentially STFU, stop their whining and get behind President Donald Trump.

But they won't.

No, we won't.

Because we are governed by principles you people have no use for, and we're not wannabe Jihadists or Fascists that you opined earlier today should kill reporters and who tell everyone who doesn't seig-heil to shut up. 
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #321 on: May 18, 2017, 02:27:41 am »
That's because being "right" is more important to some than doing the right thing. :shrug:

Fascinating, isn't it? 

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #322 on: May 18, 2017, 02:30:49 am »
    And that's why that Commandment about Adultery says it's ok on Thursdays only./s
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #323 on: May 18, 2017, 02:31:10 am »
Fascinating, isn't it? 

...and when you consider what's at stake?   Then you get pissed off.     :smokin:

Absolutely.  Makes you want to behead us or blow us all up, huh?

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #324 on: May 18, 2017, 02:32:18 am »
@beandog

Don't be silly, no one ever said they wanted a man with no ambition, and if they had, it wouldn't have made sense.  How does a person become president without wanting it and working for it?  Ambition isn't negative in itself.

Right, that's exactly what I'm telling you.  Were you under the impression he's a saint or something?
Sorry, but being ambitious is not the same thing as putting aside your morals and character to support a man that you do not admire.  Either Pence did admire and support the Donald, in which case according to some that would make him a man of low character, or he did it just to advance himself politically, which would make him a man of low charcter in my opinion.  I sure wasn't under the impression that he wasn't a saint, just a man of high moral character.  Either he is or he isn't. :shrug: