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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #250 on: May 17, 2017, 08:30:02 pm »
I think it's safe to say there are three or four posters for whom everything trump does is wrong, just as there are three or four for whom everything he does is right. 

The difference I have observed is the former group generally take their shots at trump, while the latter group generally take their shots at just about anyone who criticizes trump (while also throwing around the "hater" label -- really?).

Suggest you clean your lenses.

Your own words:

"...the former group (which include those "4" who live here 24/7) generally take their shots at trump,"

'They' do this on virtually every thread, many times savagely piling on, ala Lord of the Flies.

That's what calls any decent Trump supporter to speak out and rebuke them in the strongest of terms.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #251 on: May 17, 2017, 08:31:23 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

A minor correction if I may:

People WILL put up with it if they think are made to believe it is just.  That's why the commie media has been such a powerful tool for the Rats.

The media is GREAT at doing that!

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #252 on: May 17, 2017, 08:35:38 pm »
I think it's safe to say there are three or four posters for whom everything trump does is wrong, just as there are three or four for whom everything he does is right. 

The difference I have observed is the former group generally take their shots at trump, while the latter group generally take their shots at just about anyone who criticizes trump (while also throwing around the "hater" label -- really?).
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #253 on: May 17, 2017, 08:43:42 pm »
I think it's safe to say there are three or four posters for whom everything trump does is wrong, just as there are three or four for whom everything he does is right. 

The difference I have observed is the former group generally take their shots at trump, while the latter group generally take their shots at just about anyone who criticizes trump (while also throwing around the "hater" label -- really?).

Looks like you've pretty much got this figured out!   :beer:
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #254 on: May 17, 2017, 08:50:35 pm »
It just highlights the ugly truth that Americans in general today are become an uneducated, ignorant lot of fools easily beguiled and swayed into whatever they are told to think, believe and act on.

The media only has such power because Americans no longer think for themselves and follow the emoting herds into dependency.
Once again, a way-over-the-top generalization of the American people which I reject as a pitiful attempt to indict the majority of us.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #255 on: May 17, 2017, 08:55:44 pm »
That's the breaks... And the result of electing a man of low character in the first place.
Maybe you should tell that to Pence, since he supported him, agreed to be his VP and I presume voted for him.  What does that make him.  According to a lot of NTs, that makes him not a conservative. :shrug:

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #256 on: May 17, 2017, 09:01:23 pm »
Maybe you should tell that to Pence, since he supported him, agreed to be his VP and I presume voted for him.  What does that make him.  According to a lot of NTs, that makes him not a conservative. :shrug:

Not to me. Albeit that Pence is a few vertebrae short of a full spine, I would happily take that with the character I know him to possess, over the low character of the current occupant, regardless of his brass.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #257 on: May 17, 2017, 09:06:20 pm »
Suggest you clean your lenses.

Your own words:

"...the former group (which include those "4" who live here 24/7) generally take their shots at trump,"

'They' do this on virtually every thread, many times savagely piling on, ala Lord of the Flies.

That's what calls any decent Trump supporter to speak out and rebuke them in the strongest of terms.

Now.....if you need a safe space, contact the management. :laugh:
Well, now, if SNAFU wasn't so normal, people would find other things to talk about, ya think? As for "virtually every thread", well, the comments pertain to the subject matter. There have been threads here where Trump doesn't even get brought up, but folks looking for "haters" to hate on might miss those.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #258 on: May 17, 2017, 09:07:57 pm »
Not to me. Albeit that Pence is a few vertebrae short of a full spine, I would happily take that with the character I know him to possess, over the low character of the current occupant, regardless of his brass.

To me, what matters is who moves the ball farther down the field, and I can't honestly predict that.  One thing I do know is that if Trump is removed for Pence, the leftist press will start the anti-Pence drumbeat the instant it happens, so there's that going for Trump right now.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #259 on: May 17, 2017, 09:12:24 pm »
Well, now, if SNAFU wasn't so normal, people would find other things to talk about, ya think? As for "virtually every thread", well, the comments pertain to the subject matter. There have been threads here where Trump doesn't even get brought up, but folks looking for "haters" to hate on might miss those.

My subject is the POLITICS category.   Should have made that clear.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #260 on: May 17, 2017, 09:15:42 pm »
To me, what matters is who moves the ball farther down the field, and I can't honestly predict that.  One thing I do know is that if Trump is removed for Pence, the leftist press will start the anti-Pence drumbeat the instant it happens, so there's that going for Trump right now.

It doesn't matter. The press is always going to be against a Republican. This is nothing new, or even at any greater volume.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #261 on: May 17, 2017, 09:21:10 pm »
To me, what matters is who moves the ball farther down the field, and I can't honestly predict that.  One thing I do know is that if Trump is removed for Pence, the leftist press will start the anti-Pence drumbeat the instant it happens, so there's that going for Trump right now.

Mike Pence ... to be honest, I had never heard of him till Trump named him his VP...something about the guy I just don't trust.  The MSM and the DEMS aren't going to stop.  They are in full 'war' mode.  They lost.  They have nothing left other than their lies, their accusations and a MSM that is willing to spread their b.s.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #262 on: May 17, 2017, 09:26:32 pm »
Mike Pence ... to be honest, I had never heard of him till Trump named him his VP...something about the guy I just don't trust.  The MSM and the DEMS aren't going to stop.  They are in full 'war' mode.  They lost.  They have nothing left other than their lies, their accusations and a MSM that is willing to spread their b.s.

I'd heard of him, and I like what I've heard so far.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #263 on: May 17, 2017, 09:28:11 pm »
It doesn't matter. The press is always going to be against a Republican. This is nothing new, or even at any greater volume.

This is true, but Pence would have the added burden of a press dancing on his predecessor's grave holding his severed head.  It would make things more difficult under those circumstances, no? 
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #264 on: May 17, 2017, 09:33:15 pm »
This is true, but Pence would have the added burden of a press dancing on his predecessor's grave holding his severed head.  It would make things more difficult under those circumstances, no?

I don't think so... And really, I don't care. If the reason to hold Trump up is only to prevent the press and the Democrats from having their satisfaction, it means far less to me than the press and the democrats having their way - which they predictably will under a liberal Republican administration.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #265 on: May 17, 2017, 09:33:30 pm »
It doesn't matter. The press is always going to be against a Republican. This is nothing new, or even at any greater volume.

But, honestly @roamer_1 how much can we be expected to endure?  Some of us, myself included, fought long and hard for a different type of leader to pull this country back to the right direction and at the least break up the deep state.

I am convinced such expectations were sheer folly.  And I'll admit, it is time for President Trump to pack his bags, or we'll pack them for him.  It's just enough.

I am inclined to believe they will allow Pence to assume the Presidency.  He'll be neutered, but at least we'll hold the office.

I envision a Paul Ryan type, or Paul Ryan himself, selected as VP ... and after muted and sparse gnashing of teeth, the Senate, including the majority of Democrats, will confirm the nominee. It will be hailed as the first act of reconciliation after the disaster of Donald Trump.  And this reconciliation will be the hallmark of all legislation.

The nightmare and the turmoil will be over and a sense of normalcy will be returned.  Hell, even here friendship and civility will return.  Enough with the fight.  It's too exhausting.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #266 on: May 17, 2017, 09:41:15 pm »
But, honestly @roamer_1 how much can we be expected to endure?  Some of us, myself included, fought long and hard for a different type of leader to pull this country back to the right direction and at the least break up the deep state.

Too bad, in your folly, that you chose a boorish NY liberal with ties to the mob, and globalism to bear that standard.

I know I am just a back country hick, but around here, while we know putting a fox in the henhouse might change the status in the henhouse, we have the foresight to know that not all changes to the henhouse are desirable.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #267 on: May 17, 2017, 09:46:31 pm »
But, honestly @roamer_1 how much can we be expected to endure?  Some of us, myself included, fought long and hard for a different type of leader to pull this country back to the right direction and at the least break up the deep state.

I am convinced such expectations were sheer folly.  And I'll admit, it is time for President Trump to pack his bags, or we'll pack them for him.  It's just enough.

I am inclined to believe they will allow Pence to assume the Presidency.  He'll be neutered, but at least we'll hold the office.

I envision a Paul Ryan type, or Paul Ryan himself, selected as VP ... and after muted and sparse gnashing of teeth, the Senate, including the majority of Democrats, will confirm the nominee. It will be hailed as the first act of reconciliation after the disaster of Donald Trump.  And this reconciliation will be the hallmark of all legislation.

The nightmare and the turmoil will be over and a sense of normalcy will be returned.  Hell, even here friendship and civility will return.  Enough with the fight.  It's too exhausting.

You've given up far too easy. The sense of normalcy you speak of is the fall of this country under a mountain of unfunded liabilities 200+ trillion dollars, larger growth of centralized government further removing decisions from the states to the Feds, full invasion of illegals with the amnesty party, larger influence pushed by lobbiests to the GOP and their money masters, continued erosions of our freedoms from socialist liberals with no fight from spineless feckless repukelicans and ultimately a totalitarian state led by marxists.

Sorry but Trump is barely 3 months in and we want to concede? How about fighting against the very people who are at the center of this? Our spineless GOPe.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #268 on: May 17, 2017, 09:48:32 pm »
No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #269 on: May 17, 2017, 09:50:11 pm »
I don't think so... And really, I don't care. If the reason to hold Trump up is only to prevent the press and the Democrats from having their satisfaction, it means far less to me than the press and the democrats having their way - which they predictably will under a liberal Republican administration.

Can't argue with that.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #270 on: May 17, 2017, 09:52:27 pm »
@roamer_1


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LOL.  It sure is.  Nobody turns on a dime like that.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #271 on: May 17, 2017, 09:53:35 pm »
Too bad, in your folly, that you chose a boorish NY liberal with ties to the mob, and globalism to bear that standard.

I know I am just a back country hick, but around here, while we know putting a fox in the henhouse might change the status in the henhouse, we have the foresight to know that not all changes to the henhouse are desirable.

Congratulations.

That's a kinnard! Share with us please what policies of major consequence is he pushing that is oh so liberal? Believe me I had to get over the butt hurt too when my guy Cruz didn't get in but I'll be honest objectively looking at his agenda and what policies he is pushing are conservative. Problem I see is most still believe it is the primaries akin to Hillary losing the election and not letting it go.

Border security through wall
Cut off immigration
Invest in America
Kill Obamacare
Bring jobs back (I don't agree 100% with his policy on this one)
Cut taxes across the board
Kill regulations crippling business
Openly talk about faith
Kill EPA regs
Open up land reserved by the Feds and place back under State control

So back to my original, what policies above does a liberal support? His agenda is far more conservative than ANY imagined and far more than any that has been pushed since Reagan.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #273 on: May 17, 2017, 09:56:35 pm »
I don't think so... And really, I don't care. If the reason to hold Trump up is only to prevent the press and the Democrats from having their satisfaction, it means far less to me than the press and the democrats having their way - which they predictably will under a liberal Republican administration.

Border security through wall
Cut off immigration
Invest in America
Kill Obamacare
Bring jobs back (I don't agree 100% with his policy on this one)
Cut taxes across the board
Kill regulations crippling business
Openly talk about faith
Kill EPA regs
Open up land reserved by the Feds and place back under State control

Yup sounds pretty liberal to me

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #274 on: May 17, 2017, 10:00:28 pm »
But, honestly @roamer_1 how much can we be expected to endure?  Some of us, myself included, fought long and hard for a different type of leader to pull this country back to the right direction and at the least break up the deep state.

I am convinced such expectations were sheer folly.  And I'll admit, it is time for President Trump to pack his bags, or we'll pack them for him.  It's just enough.

I am inclined to believe they will allow Pence to assume the Presidency.  He'll be neutered, but at least we'll hold the office.

I envision a Paul Ryan type, or Paul Ryan himself, selected as VP ... and after muted and sparse gnashing of teeth, the Senate, including the majority of Democrats, will confirm the nominee. It will be hailed as the first act of reconciliation after the disaster of Donald Trump.  And this reconciliation will be the hallmark of all legislation.

The nightmare and the turmoil will be over and a sense of normalcy will be returned.  Hell, even here friendship and civility will return.  Enough with the fight.  It's too exhausting.

@Right_in_Virginia  Has your account been hacked?