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Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« on: May 10, 2017, 03:26:03 pm »
Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule

 By Timothy Cama - 05/10/17 10:29 AM EDT


Three Republicans joined Senate Democrats on Wednesday to reject overturning an Obama administration rule limiting methane emissions from oil and natural gas drilling.

Only 49 senators voted to move forward with debate on legislation to undo the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) rule, short of the 51 need to advance the measure.

The vote is a major loss for congressional Republicans, who had targeted the methane rule as a prime Obama regulation to undo. They argue that it unnecessarily adds costs to oil and natural gas drilling on federal land.
But it is a big victory for environmentalists, who in recent weeks put up a comprehensive fight to sway vulnerable and moderate senators against the repeal.


Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Susan Collins (R-Maine) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) joined all 48 members of the Democratic caucus in rejecting the resolution under the Congressional Review Act (CRA).

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http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/332721-senate-rejects-repeal-of-obama-drilling-rule

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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2017, 03:40:37 pm »
Why does the fact that those three voted with the dhimmicraps not surprise me?

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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2017, 03:59:31 pm »
Just enough to thwart the rollback of Obama's anti-energy agenda.

No, folks this doesn't just affect natural gas, because there is almost always some natural gas dissolved in crude oil. In fact, the less gas is dissolved, the more difficult and expensive it will be to prevent its escape to atmosphere. Some is released as the rocks are drilled, and if in too low concentrations to permit that to be flared, will escape to atmosphere as drilling fluids have solids removed. Higher concentrations can be separated and either flared during drilling, or as the well is completed and put on production, captured as a valuable, or at least economically recoverable by-product of the production of far more valuable oil. Lower concentrations and volumes have been flared in the past because it is cheaper than the infrastructure required to transport the wellhead gas to market.

All I can say is the commenters on that website must be crackheads. It is highly likely that they are all in danger of consuming far more methane they produced themselves while riding in their smartcars  and hybrids than a part per billion in the air they breathe being present from any of the wells drilled on BLM land (National Forrest/Grasslands).

The reason the flaring rates were higher for methane on BLM land than on private land is that the permitting process required to lay in the gathering pipelines to process the gas are so much more onerous and difficult (and time consuming) on BLM land than they are on private land. The Government created the problem, and now the government will compound it as a "solution".

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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2017, 07:40:04 pm »
Guess I just don't understand the Senate involvement.

Was this a rule originated by Executive dept?  Does not appear to be a law.

McCain and Graham are back where they like to be, in the spotlight, undermining fellow Republicans.

Collins seems to just enjoy punching her card with the libs.
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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2017, 07:52:04 pm »

SOURCE: THE HILL

URL: http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/332721-senate-rejects-repeal-of-obama-drilling-rule

BY TIMOTHY CAMA AND DEVIN HENRY


Three Republicans joined Senate Democrats on Wednesday to reject an effort to overturn an Obama administration rule limiting methane emissions from oil and natural gas drilling.

Only 49 senators voted to move forward with debate on legislation to undo the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) rule, short of the 51 votes needed. 

Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Susan Collins (Maine) and John McCain (Ariz.) joined all 48 members of the Democratic caucus in rejecting the resolution under the Congressional Review Act (CRA).

Graham and Collins had previously publicized their plans to vote against the legislation. But McCain’s vote came as a surprise.
McCain said that he voted against the resolution because he fears that it would have prevented the BLM from writing an improved regulation in the future.

“While I am concerned that the BLM rule may be onerous, passage of the resolution would have prevented the federal government, under any administration, from issuing a rule that is ‘similar,’ according to the plain reading of the Congressional Review Act,” he said in a statement.

“I believe that the public interest is best served if the Interior Department issues a new rule to revise and improve the BLM methane rule.”

The vote marks the first time Republicans have rejected a resolution to repeal an Obama administration regulation since President Trump took office, and came the morning after the president sparked a firestorm with his firing of FBI Director James Comey.

The failure of the resolution is a loss for congressional Republicans, who had targeted the methane rule as one of the main Obama regulations they wanted to reverse. Opponents of the rule argue that it unnecessarily adds costs to oil and natural gas drilling on federal land.

But the defeat of the resolution is a victory for environmentalists, who in recent weeks put up a comprehensive fight to sway vulnerable and moderate senators against repeal.

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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2017, 08:00:16 pm »
I'm actually glad McLame didn't win in '08. He would have been just as bad as Obama except all the terrible ideas would be tied to the GOP. I'll enjoy vacationing wherever he is buried so I can piss on his grave.

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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2017, 08:05:13 pm »
I'm actually glad McLame didn't win in '08. He would have been just as bad as Obama except all the terrible ideas would be tied to the GOP. I'll enjoy vacationing wherever he is buried so I can piss on his grave.

I am one that refused to vote for the a**hole in '08 and voted 3rd party. As for vacationing in AZ ... it's an evil place and definitely not worth your time.
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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2017, 08:35:13 pm »
I am one that refused to vote for the a**hole in '08 and voted 3rd party. As for vacationing in AZ ... it's an evil place and definitely not worth your time.

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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2017, 08:37:28 pm »
Guess I just don't understand the Senate involvement.

Was this a rule originated by Executive dept?  Does not appear to be a law.

McCain and Graham are back where they like to be, in the spotlight, undermining fellow Republicans.

Collins seems to just enjoy punching her card with the libs.

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The law empowers Congress to review, by means of an expedited legislative process, new federal regulations issued by government agencies and, by passage of a joint resolution, to overrule a regulation.[4] Once a rule is thus repealed, the CRA also prohibits the reissuing of the rule in substantially the same form or the issuing of a new rule that is substantially the same, "unless the reissued or new rule is specifically authorized by a law enacted after the date of the joint resolution disapproving the original rule" (5 U.S. Code § 801(b)(2)). Congress has a window of time lasting 60 legislative days (i.e., days that the U.S. Congress is actually in session, rather than calendar days) to disapprove of any given rule by simple majority vote; otherwise the rule will go into effect at the end of this period.
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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2017, 08:44:30 pm »
Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule

 By Timothy Cama - 05/10/17 10:29 AM EDT


Three Republicans joined Senate Democrats on Wednesday to reject overturning an Obama administration rule limiting methane emissions from oil and natural gas drilling.

Only 49 senators voted to move forward with debate on legislation to undo the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) rule, short of the 51 need to advance the measure.

The vote is a major loss for congressional Republicans, who had targeted the methane rule as a prime Obama regulation to undo. They argue that it unnecessarily adds costs to oil and natural gas drilling on federal land.
But it is a big victory for environmentalists, who in recent weeks put up a comprehensive fight to sway vulnerable and moderate senators against the repeal.


Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Susan Collins (R-Maine) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) joined all 48 members of the Democratic caucus in rejecting the resolution under the Congressional Review Act (CRA).

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http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/332721-senate-rejects-repeal-of-obama-drilling-rule


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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2017, 10:00:59 pm »
I'm actually glad McLame didn't win in '08. He would have been just as bad as Obama except all the terrible ideas would be tied to the GOP. I'll enjoy vacationing wherever he is buried so I can piss on his grave.

As bad as Obama was/is ... we dodged a mega bullet in 2008.... McCain would have erased any conservative thought in this nation. 

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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2017, 02:37:58 am »
McCain, Graham, Collins -- it figures.

Trump ought to start courting Manchin of West Virginia to come over to the Republican side of the aisle.

It will help in his home state (W.Va.), which is becoming one of the "reddest" states in the east.

And I think it can be argued that Manchin's position on most issues is probably already to the right of the three above.

If the democrat/communists could get Jim Jeffords to "jump", maybe we can get Joe to do the same.

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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2017, 02:50:45 am »
I'm actually glad McLame didn't win in '08. He would have been just as bad as Obama except all the terrible ideas would be tied to the GOP. I'll enjoy vacationing wherever he is buried so I can piss on his grave.

Between him, Jane Fonda, Walter Cronkite, and Captain Dan the News Man Rather I'm going to be doing lots of traveling!
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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2017, 03:19:49 am »
Why does the fact that those three voted with the dhimmicraps not surprise me?

Is there any possible way to get rid of that loathsome trio.
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2017, 04:17:34 am »
Is there any possible way to get rid of that loathsome trio.

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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2017, 05:28:07 am »
Between him, Jane Fonda, Walter Cronkite, and Captain Dan the News Man Rather I'm going to be doing lots of traveling!
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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2017, 05:28:56 am »
Is there any possible way to get rid of that loathsome trio.
Move there in droves and vote Democrat... :shrug:
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Re: Senate rejects repeal of Obama drilling rule
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2017, 05:47:57 am »
Between him, Jane Fonda, Walter Cronkite, and Captain Dan the News Man Rather I'm going to be doing lots of traveling!

I hear ya. I'm vindictive as hell and have my own list. Can't wait for Don Henley to die. I may take a #2 on him.