Trump vs. Freedom Caucus: President takes names, starting with Amash

[corbe]

@corbe just like I predicted...no amount of evidence will ever be good enough.

So...what happens when the Conservatives Trump threatens with a primary challenger or actually have a Trump sponsored primary challenger in their next election race not only win their seats...again...but do it with a bigger margin than Trump won the Presidency with?

That is a very real possibility.

What will the true believers do then?  Who will they attack?

    @txradioguy They will stay on the Reservation, no matter what, Trump could give money to Hillary to primary someone, oh wait, he's done that already, they have to much invested in this Charlatan to ever admit they were wrong.

[txradioguy]

    @txradioguy They will stay on the Reservation, no matter what, Trump could give money to Hillary to primary someone, oh wait, he's done that already, they have to much invested in this Charlatan to ever admit they were wrong.

Really sad to see the transformation and soul selling of so called Conservatives.

[Mesaclone]

Really sad to see the transformation and soul selling of so called Conservatives.

You're seeing what you want to see, not what is. So if you really don't like it, try looking with objective eyes...warning, you may have to set aside the preconceptions that are clouding your vision.

[INVAR]

No amount of evidence will ever be enough for the true believers.

That is always the case with people who belong to cults of personality. 

[Mesaclone]

That is always the case with people who belong to cults.

Fixed it for you...explains much of the behavior of our SoCon element here. And their need to project their own "cultish" certainty that only they have principles and are inerrantly correct on every issue.

[roamer_1]

Fixed it for you...explains much of the behavior of our SoCon element here. And their need to project their own "cultish" certainty that only they have principles and are inerrantly correct on every issue.

ALL Conservative principles are inherently right, by definition. That's what makes them principles. Self evident truths. First things.

[Cripplecreek]

ALL Conservative principles are inherently right, by definition. That's what makes them principles. Self evident truths. First things.

Yeah I'd really love to hear which conservative principles are incorrect.

[roamer_1]

Yeah I'd really love to hear which conservative principles are incorrect.

Tough to do - Remove any one, and they all fall down... Especially federalism and the Judeo-Christian Ethic, which our DoI and Constitution were forged upon. There will be no success, or justice without them.

[Cripplecreek]

Tough to do - Remove any one, and they all fall down... Especially federalism and the Judeo-Christian Ethic, which our DoI and Constitution were forged upon. There will be no success, or justice without them.

I've never seen a social moderate/fiscal conservative who could keep up the fiscal conservative charade for long. My former GOP congressman Joe Schwarz claimed to be a social moderate/fiscal conservative yet there wasn't any abortion funding that he couldn't vote for and he made his hatred for the "anti choice extremists" well known.

In fact if you find a socon who likes spending, you've really found a lying moderate.

[Silver Pines]

Fixed it for you...explains much of the behavior of our SoCon element here. And their need to project their own "cultish" certainty that only they have principles and are inerrantly correct on every issue.

@Mesaclone

Which SoCon principles are incorrect?

Please elaborate.

[txradioguy]

@Mesaclone

Which SoCon principles are incorrect?

Please elaborate.

[Silver Pines]

Save me some with butter, lol.

[Mesaclone]

@Mesaclone

Which SoCon principles are incorrect?

Please elaborate.

Will be glad to enumerate this evening post work. A tad busy to engage in a Full lecture on the perils of theocracy. As a quick primer, feel free to research Iranian and Vatican governance as two very different yet relevant models. For a more advanced primer read Gibbons account of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire. All have great lessons to provide on the perils of mixing religion and government. Jefferson himself is also quite enlightened on the issue....and sets a good standard for advocacy of good conservative governance that avidly keeps theocracy at bay.

Good governance grounded in Platonic and Enlightenment principles...that was the goal of The Founders. Yes, they were mostly Christians....though a number are more correctly defined as Deists, but they knew one thing clearly....that religious belief should always inform one's ethics but should never empower or pervade good government.

[INVAR]

Will be glad to enumerate this evening post work. A tad busy to engage in a Full lecture on the perils of theocracy.

I find it enlightening that every single time the discussion of biblical or religious principles comes up - immediately the charge is that advocating or following those principles is establishing a theocracy.

that religious belief should always inform one's ethics but should never empower or pervade good government.

Completely absurd.  You cannot have 'good government' when ethics and principles are absent from pervading government policy.  It will simply be filled with another 'religious' belief - be it  Secularism/Humanism/Communism/Islam or other religious belief that is antithetical to the existence of the kind of liberty established for this country.

[Night Hides Not]

I've never seen a social moderate/fiscal conservative who could keep up the fiscal conservative charade for long. My former GOP congressman Joe Schwarz claimed to be a social moderate/fiscal conservative yet there wasn't any abortion funding that he couldn't vote for and he made his hatred for the "anti choice extremists" well known.

In fact if you find a socon who likes spending, you've really found a lying moderate.

A good explanation why the federal deficit has grown unimpeded the last two decades, no matter the party controlling the Legislative Branch, which heretofore I thought was a co-equal branch of the federal government.