Author Topic: Stephen Hawking believes a single “world government” may be the only way to save us  (Read 1815 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline SirLinksALot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,417
  • Gender: Male
SOURCE: HOTAIR

URL: http://hotair.com/archives/2017/03/20/stephen-hawking-believes-a-single-world-government-may-be-the-only-way-to-save-us/

by Jazz Shaw



The guy who is widely considered to potentially be the smartest man on the planet is really upping his illuminati game this year. Stephen Hawking has long been a vocal critic of the development of Artificial Intelligence (AI), expressing some rather reasonable fears over what sort of decisions a machine with a truly superior intellect might make. But he also clearly feels that the genie is already out of the bottle and our robot overlords will be coming along sooner or later. So what can we do to prevent ultimate disaster and prepare ourselves before Terminator style robots are patrolling your neighborhood? It may require doing away with the quaint idea of individual nations and governments, replacing them with some sort of grand, global cabal. (SOURCE: The Independent, http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/stephen-hawking-world-government-stop-technology-destroy-humankind-th-a7618021.html):

Quote
Stephen Hawking has warned that technology needs to be controlled in order to prevent it from destroying the human race.

The world-renowned physicist, who has spoken out about the dangers of artificial intelligence in the past, believes we need to establish a way of identifying threats quickly, before they have a chance to escalate…

He suggests that “some form of world government” could be ideal for the job, but would itself create more problems.

“But that might become a tyranny,” he added. “All this may sound a bit doom-laden but I am an optimist. I think the human race will rise to meet these challenges.”

Hawking himself immediately notes one of the key dangers in even beginning a discussion of such a planetary administration. That might sound wonderful if you believe in the ideas of socialism and benevolent dictators, but as a wise man once said, the problem with benevolent dictators is that you so rarely get two benevolent ones in a row. Any political body that powerful would almost certainly build up unchecked and unstoppable might before anyone had time to react. Even if such a government claimed to be making decisions based on what’s in your best interest, there will never be one set of rules which the majority of humanity would agree actually drove things in the direction where our personal interests lie.

I don’t want to throw this scientist’s baby out with the bathwater however. He’s ringing some alarm bells which I still maintain we should be listening to. We are more and more frequently seeing incidents of widescale cyber attacks being perpetrated by everyone from grubby hackers to first world governments. And there are justifiable concerns that such malicious activity could do a lot more than simply shut off your access to Netflix for a couple of days. Imagine the damage that could be done if the mind behind the next attack was working a million times faster and more efficiently than yours.

Still think these concerns are overblown? Have you seen what Jeff Bezos is up to these days? And yes… this is a photo of an actual event.



I too believe that somebody might eventually crack the AI puzzle and develop a machine capable of critical thinking and superhuman intelligence. I still say “might” because to this day we know very little about the underlying operation of the human brain. If it’s truly nothing more than an unbelievably complex biological machine then we may be able to build something which surpasses it. But on the other hand, perhaps the only reason that we can actually think is because that brain is a vessel for a soul. If that’s the case, I don’t believe mere mortals will be able to cook one of those up anytime soon.

We can, at a minimum, at least ask the eggheads at Google and other places where AI projects are in the works to take some sensible precautions. If they manage to flip the switch on something which turns out to be as powerful as Guardian and Colossus in the Forbin Project, we should at least be assured that the machines don’t have any pathway onto the Internet in general and can’t get their grubby little digital paws onto the controls of the power grid, say nothing of the nation’s weapon systems. And for God’s sake, don’t let it hook up to the Internet of Things. That’s how we already got into trouble during the last major DNS attack and outage.

As long as we can keep any eventual Artificial Intelligence system sequestered in a single building we should be okay. And with all due respect to Dr. Hawking, we can manage all this without surrendering our independence and self-governance to any global organization.

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 56,860
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
@Quix  And awaaay we go!

My first objection to a world government is that you can't just pull stakes and walk to a new jurisdiction.

There are more, but that alone is enough.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2017, 07:24:46 am by Smokin Joe »
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Online DB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,385
I believe Hawking lost his way some time ago. Once he started predicting the unknowable he lost it. Basically he said that his theories explain how the universe could spring into existence from nothing and there was no need for God or anything else to explain it. Once you can rationalize nothing to something you can rationalize whatever you want without any need for reality.

That's my non expert opinion...

Offline Quix

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7,697
  • Gender: Male
  • Times R a changin' Walk with God!
@Quix  And awaaay we go!

My first objection to a world government is that you can't just pull stakes and walk to a new jurisdiction.

There are more, but that alone is enough.

INDEED!

Folks who soberly (sans alcohol) claim a global government would be wonderful are thoroughly deluded about human nature . . . and probably blind to the evils within their own hearts and lives.

Tyranny is ALWAYS evil in human hands; in fallen angel hands.

Even  Almighty God Yehovah handles his Almighty Powers typically with a very gentle hand that's shockingly respectful of the degree of free-will He grants individuals.


Forgive all; In all things Thank God; Love all. Love 1st, most & always... BE CALM & DO THE NEXT LOVING THING.
POTTERY SITE ON ETSY: https://www.etsy.com/shop/ACTIVELOVE
QUIX thread for Quix GLOBALISM, UFO ETC topics here:http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=206517.new#new WILLIAM TOMPKINS Disclosure bk thread: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,224639.0.html . Calling: To afflict the comfortable & comfort the afflicted[/

Offline Cripplecreek

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,718
  • Gender: Male
  • Constitutional Extremist
@Quix  And awaaay we go!

My first objection to a world government is that you can't just pull stakes and walk to a new jurisdiction.

There are more, but that alone is enough.

And federalism is the opposite and that's what makes it superior.

Offline Fishrrman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 35,654
  • Gender: Male
  • Dumbest member of the forum
Stephen Hawking believes a single “world government” may be the only way to save us...

Mr. Hawking, thanks for you opinion on the matter.

Now get back to thinking about the things that you know sumthin' about...

Offline montanajoe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,324
I think most of those currently in power would rather blow everything up first... :shrug:

Offline Frank Cannon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26,097
  • Gender: Male
“But that might become a tyranny,” he added. “All this may sound a bit doom-laden but I am an optimist. I think the human race will rise to meet these challenges.”

Like hell he is an optimist. He buys into every cracked pot Leftist concepts of the end of the world.

BTW, who exactly labeled this dude the smartest man in the world? He came up with some shit on Black holes in the 70's and wrote a book about the Big Bang in the 80's (a theory that has been discredited because the math doesn't work) that everyone bought to look smart and that is about it.

People know E=MC2. People know Carl Sagan pithy sayings. People don't know anything about this guy other than his computer generated voice and deformed body.

Offline 240B

  • Lord of all things Orange!
  • TBR Advisory Committee
  • ***
  • Posts: 26,295
    • I try my best ...
Stephen Hawking believes a single “world government” may be the only way to save us...

Mr. Hawking, thanks for you opinion on the matter.

Now get back to thinking about the things that you know sumthin' about...


Exactly. Hawking reminds me of the Pope. Lately, we have all of these people who have no connection at all to politics speaking out supporting socialism and the climate change agenda. I suppose this is a new tack by the Socialist Left, to get everyone with any notoriety to endorse their agenda, even if the people speaking have no involvement with politics whatsoever. I do not understand why people fall for this, but it certainly seems like the richer/famous or more powerful a person is, the more likely they are to become a pawn of the Global Elites.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

Offline LateForLunch

  • GOTWALMA Get Out of the Way and Leave Me Alone! (Nods to Teebone)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,349

Exactly. Hawking reminds me of the Pope. Lately, we have all of these people who have no connection at all to politics speaking out supporting socialism and the climate change agenda. I suppose this is a new tack by the Socialist Left, to get everyone with any notoriety to endorse their agenda, even if the people speaking have no involvement with politics whatsoever. I do not understand why people fall for this, but it certainly seems like the richer/famous or more powerful a person is, the more likely they are to become a pawn of the Global Elites.

Hawking is trying his hardest to make a new career for himself after retiring from his profession. He is trying to fit into the niche that has been created for him as:

1) a permanent victim (a "cripple")
2) a member of the "new priest-class" who is by virtue of being a scientist, "better than the commoners and ostensibly above being questioned or understood by them"
3) a devoted far leftist (anti-conservative globalist Statist)

All of that qualifies him to be a "hero" to the far left and deserving of unlimited wealth, support and infinite entitlements from his leftist allies.

There is no group more ready, willing and anxious to trade in their dignity, integrity and honor for financial security and convenient method of livelihood than hard core atheists. Militant atheism and amoral mendacity go together like Gila monsters and poisonous venom.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 05:17:38 pm by LateForLunch »
GOTWALMA Get out of the way and leave me alone! (Nods to General Teebone)

Offline Idaho_Cowboy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,924
  • Gender: Male
  • Ride for the Brand - Joshua 24:15
Save us from what? Government kills more than almost anything in the world, if history is any guide. Making it bigger isn't going to help.
“The way I see it, every time a man gets up in the morning he starts his life over. Sure, the bills are there to pay, and the job is there to do, but you don't have to stay in a pattern. You can always start over, saddle a fresh horse and take another trail.” ― Louis L'Amour

Offline goatprairie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,956
Put all power in the hands of a few people.....what could go wrong?  :whistle:

Offline LateForLunch

  • GOTWALMA Get Out of the Way and Leave Me Alone! (Nods to Teebone)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,349
Save us from what? Government kills more than almost anything in the world, if history is any guide. Making it bigger isn't going to help.

When one has the degree of intellect that Hawking possesses, he most likely views people of average I.Q. as dangerously inferior and largely incapable of thinking for and governing themselves. He probably sees ordinary people as rodentmonkeys who need to be "controlled" not served by their governments.

Clearly he might have benefited from reading "Waldo and Magic Inc." by Robert Heinlein.

Einstein and Newton were two of the super geniuses of hard science who didn't see average human beings as a threat that needed to be neutralized. They coincidentally, also believed in God, whereas Hawking by his own description decidedly does not.

In a psychological sense, he is following the common progression of how militant atheists generally evolve from atheism to nihilism to radical leftist Statism. In many ways, he is a very dull-witted individual or perhaps simply amoral and concerned with himself to such a morbid extent that he thinks nothing of spouting off lunacy and mendacious nonsense as if he believes it.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 05:40:47 pm by LateForLunch »
GOTWALMA Get out of the way and leave me alone! (Nods to General Teebone)

Offline INVAR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11,961
  • Gender: Male
  • Dread To Tread
    • Sword At The Ready
He suggests that “some form of world government” could be ideal for the job

And Islam and the Caliphate is answering the call.

Moron.

What imbeciles decided to hand this physicist some moniker of 'smartest man on the planet'?

He obviously lacks common sense, an understanding of history and human nature.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

geronl

  • Guest
How does he think a world government would "save us"?

Offline INVAR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11,961
  • Gender: Male
  • Dread To Tread
    • Sword At The Ready
How does he think a world government would "save us"?

Like the Borg, we all become part of the collective, hive mind.

And Islam is already on it's way to imposing it by force, while Socialists and Marxists today attempt to do it by government fiat.

Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

Offline truth_seeker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28,386
  • Gender: Male
  • Common Sense Results Oriented Conservative Veteran

He is so very smart, and his opinion is so very important, why again ??

(sorry about his disability, but it seems to be the main thing that makes him "famous")

About 99.99999% of people couldn't tell you WHY he is famous, or how it matters in their lives.
"God must love the common man, he made so many of them.�  Abe Lincoln

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 56,860
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Hawking is trying his hardest to make a new career for himself after retiring from his profession. He is trying to fit into the niche that has been created for him as:


All of that qualifies him to be a "hero" to the far left and deserving of unlimited wealth, support and infinite entitlements from his leftist allies.

There is no group more ready, willing and anxious to trade in their dignity, integrity and honor for financial security and convenient method of livelihood than hard core atheists.
When one believes in nothing after this life, then this is the only opportunity to grab for all one can get--and the Devil take the hindmost!

When one has that worldview, being 'elite' or on top of the repressive government is only a way to secure that status against the masses, against innovation, and against irrelevance.

Eventually, the belief that one is superior can get to the point where any who are less 'important' can become a threat, and thus they must be subjugated or eliminated, and there is always some rationale for that, real or fabricated.

Islam, unlike western and socialist liberalism, is actually willing to remove heads and slaughter the noncompliant on a global scale to achieve their ends. The previous manifestations of Communism and National Socialism have shown a definite bent toward similar behaviour, but even that has been limited.

 I believe the Liberal elite think they can use Islam to further their goals, without realizing their heads would be used for soccer balls just as fast as any other. For now they are tolerated because they are useful, confusing Islam's enemies and sapping the will of the 'tolerant' to resist. When they are no longer useful, they will become targets but by then it will be too late for epiphanies.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 09:35:46 pm by Smokin Joe »
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline Cripplecreek

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,718
  • Gender: Male
  • Constitutional Extremist
I think global governance is probably inevitable but not for a few hundred years and it won't have anything to do with saving mankind. Its detrimental to the freedom of people who are as ideologically diverse as Earthers are.

Mankind will save itself or it won't. I would hope my descendants would be among those who expand beyond earth in search of places to build their own freedom. Whether those planets are globally governed would depend on whether those who settle there are ideologically similar. If the entire population of a planet were Judeo-Christian in heritage and continued to honor the Constitution, there's no reason it couldn't work as a global representative republic. I do think I would do away with the presidency