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Considering your regular hit jobs on Ted Cruz, no one GAFs what offends you.

Second, It wasn't Nevertrump that demanded and got a literal by definition 'safe space' here because they couldn't function in the real world of political discourse.

Third, A lot of us go back to Usenet days and thats exactly why you don't have free reign to spout off and are forced to play the victim card.

What you think hardly matters to me, but I don't play the victim card. I seriously doubt you go back to the early Usenet news day, very few of us do. Do tell what (non porn) groups were you in?
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What you think hardly matters to me, but I don't play the victim card. I seriously doubt you go back to the early Usenet news day, very few of us do. Do tell what (non porn) groups were you in?

Talk.Environment and Alt.org.earth-first were my two main places to argue with idiots. Not that you care. You just said so.

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What you think hardly matters to me, but I don't play the victim card. I seriously doubt you go back to the early Usenet news day, very few of us do. Do tell what (non porn) groups were you in?


You'd think such a battle-hardened soldier like yourself... a veteran not of Iwo Jima or Vietnam, but of USENET (which is no joke, serious shit), would be able to handle a few dissenting articles.

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Go start up a new newspaper somewhere and get back to me about that "no barriers" thing!

With modern technology, change that to 'go start a blog or website somewhere'...  The market is becoming freer and more open daily.  At that, now, you can have a worldwide reach for your personal thoughts and opinions almost instantly, not just printing to your local community.

You are the press.

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With modern technology, change that to 'go start a blog or website somewhere'...  The market is becoming freer and more open daily.  At that, now, you can have a worldwide reach for your personal thoughts and opinions almost instantly, not just printing to your local community.

You are the press.

Big Media still overpowers the upstarts, like Drudge.

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Newspapers? Who the hell still reads newspapers anymore?


In a sense anyone with a Twitter account can be a journalist these days.

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Big Media still overpowers the upstarts, like Drudge.

Ironically, the very first thing an "upstart" should do is have their blog site linked to Drudge.

"First you get he money, then you get the women...." ...Tony Montana

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"First you get he money, then you get the women...." ...Tony Montana

I always found women were attracted to my stunningly handsome visage, rugged stature and legendary modesty. Though I admit that many are understandably intimidated by a man that borders on perfection so money helps...

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Big Media still overpowers the upstarts, like Drudge.

Drudge actually has more traffic than CNN and NBC have viewers and he is the largest traffic generator to major media news stories, only beaten by Facebook and Google.

They aren't overpowering him in the least.

And he started with absolutely nothing and when you get down to the nuts and bolts, runs on practically nothing.

In 2012, Drudge passed a Billion (yes, a Billion) monthly page views.

If you want to know the power of one man with a vision and willingness to take action (albeit, a bit of luck), there you go.


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I always found women were attracted to my stunningly handsome visage, rugged stature and legendary modesty. Though I admit that many are understandably intimidated by a man that borders on perfection so money helps...

I always found back when I drove a Porsche, I got more attention. Now that I drive a Volvo, notsomuch. Who says women don't appreciate cars?

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I always found back when I drove a Porsche, I got more attention. Now that I drive a Volvo, notsomuch. Who says women don't appreciate cars?

Ah. I just have a cute dog which attracts the right kind of woman.

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I always found back when I drove a Porsche, I got more attention. Now that I drive a Volvo, notsomuch. Who says women don't appreciate cars?

It is indeed a mystery. Pull into a driveway with an Enzo or a GT3 and they always seem rather enthusiastic in their automotive appreciation.

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Mainstream media is a problem for the people. Keep DC out of it.
 

There seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding the media lately. From President Trump calling them “an enemy of the American people” to lukewarm Republicans like Senator McCain and Governor Kasich defending them, it seems as if many in the government are missing the point altogether.

Mainstream media has turned into a cesspool of leftist bias. To be more specific, mainstream media has shown their true colors in recent years; they’ve always been a cesspool of leftist bias but hid it better in the past. With that said, we seem to be heading in a direction that could prompt government interference with the way the media is reported. This would be a terrible, inexcusable mistake.

The press, whether biased or not, must be left alone by the government. Let the people handle it. As it leans to the left, it’s up to those of us in conservative media to push back towards the right. It’s also up to the people to be discerning about the media they consume. When we start hearing calls for government intervention into the press such as the consequences proposed by some for reporting “fake news,” we’re taking a dangerous step away from the 1st Amendment.


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Trump swore and oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. He has every right to ridicule and call out specific lies, however, his statement was not specific, it was a blanket statement against The Press, not just CNN/ABS/CBS/NBS/MSNBS. The Press (as I stated above) as defined under the First Amendment and reinforced by many SCOTUS cases on the matter, refers to every single citizen and the right we have to speak out.

If he declares, blanket statement. The Press, as the enemy, that is an attack on every single citizen and our rights. That is a direct attack on the Constitution he swore an oath to protect.

Now, we can always give him the benefit of the doubt that all he was using was a bit of that Trump hyperbole he is known for and he really didn't mean it that way, either out of ignorance or just because he wanted to fire up people against a perceived enemy (Rules for Radicals tactic). Only slightly better of an option than his declaring war on the Constitution.

It's clear to me that we have had two Presidents in a row who consider ME to be the "enemy."

Is it too much to dream that we would elect someone who considers the American people his employers and the Constitution his guide? :shrug:
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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It's clear to me that we have had two Presidents in a row who consider ME to be the "enemy."

Is it too much to dream that we would elect someone who considers the American people his employers and the Constitution his guide? :shrug:
The media self reports as over 95% Democrat.

The media is therefore the enemy unless suddenly Dems arent.

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The media self reports as over 95% Democrat.

The media is therefore the enemy unless suddenly Dems arent.

My comment was in response to @AbaraXas ' statement that the American people are the press, and that includes me.

Obama considered Conservatives to be his enemy.  And since I write things on the Internet that are unfavorable, albeit truthful, about Trump, I have no doubt that I am in the segment of America that he opposes.

Both Obama and Trump have made it quite clear that disagreeing with them is not something they tolerate.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

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My comment was in response to @AbaraXas ' statement that the American people are the press, and that includes me.

Obama considered Conservatives to be his enemy.  And since I write things on the Internet that are unfavorable, albeit truthful, about Trump, I have no doubt that I am in the segment of America that he opposes.

Both Obama and Trump have made it quite clear that disagreeing with them is not something they tolerate.

Lèse-majesté is my middle name.

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My comment was in response to @AbaraXas ' statement that the American people are the press, and that includes me.

Obama considered Conservatives to be his enemy.  And since I write things on the Internet that are unfavorable, albeit truthful, about Trump, I have no doubt that I am in the segment of America that he opposes.

Both Obama and Trump have made it quite clear that disagreeing with them is not something they tolerate.

The American people arent the press any more than the American people are the car mechanic. The press is the press. It is organized and sets out to do a specific thing that most people do not. Gather and report news. Or I should say that was the original idea behind the press. Nor so much now. Now it's to forward the left's agenda at any cost.

Barry didn't tolerate the right even moderate form. When Trump turns his guns on America I will be there with bells on to call it what it is. However he is attacking the very same people for the verysame reasons you have, I have and every poster here has and has repeatedly.

So it's pretty strange to condemn him for the 'sins' we ourselves committed long before he entered the picture.

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My comment was in response to @AbaraXas ' statement that the American people are the press, and that includes me.

Obama considered Conservatives to be his enemy.  And since I write things on the Internet that are unfavorable, albeit truthful, about Trump, I have no doubt that I am in the segment of America that he opposes.

Both Obama and Trump have made it quite clear that disagreeing with them is not something they tolerate.

Oh stop!  Climb down from that cross, @musiclady !

There's no sign over the door that says, "No Stubborn, Cruz-loving, whacked-out SOCONS Allowed!!"

We're welcoming EVERYBODY!!    :beer:

Just don't lie about him, or believe/spread lies about him.  That's easy, isn't it?
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The American people arent the press any more than the American people are the car mechanic. The press is the press. It is organized and sets out to do a specific thing that most people do not. Gather and report news. Or I should say that was the original idea behind the press. Nor so much now. Now it's to forward the left's agenda at any cost.

Barry didn't tolerate the right even moderate form. When Trump turns his guns on America I will be there with bells on to call it what it is. However he is attacking the very same people for the verysame reasons you have, I have and every poster here has and has repeatedly.

So it's pretty strange to condemn him for the 'sins' we ourselves committed long before he entered the picture.

I don't "condemn" him for doing the same thing as conservatives have done, because that's not what he's doing.

But I think you know that, Norm.  And I think you know he can't tolerate people who don't do and think of him exactly what he wants.  He's not going after the press on principle as we have done.  He's going after the press because they say bad things about HIM, and he, being a pre-adolescent in maturity, needs to lash out.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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I don't "condemn" him for doing the same thing as conservatives have done, because that's not what he's doing.

But I think you know that, Norm.  And I think you know he can't tolerate people who don't do and think of him exactly what he wants.  He's not going after the press on principle as we have done.  He's going after the press because they say bad things about HIM, and he, being a pre-adolescent in maturity, needs to lash out.

Regardless of his motivation, I'm thrilled to see the press taken to the woodshed by a president of the United States!  Something I have been waiting to see for a LONG LONG time!

And I simply LOVE this:


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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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The American people arent the press any more than the American people are the car mechanic. The press is the press. It is organized and sets out to do a specific thing that most people do not. Gather and report news. Or I should say that was the original idea behind the press. Nor so much now. Now it's to forward the left's agenda at any cost.

Barry didn't tolerate the right even moderate form. When Trump turns his guns on America I will be there with bells on to call it what it is. However he is attacking the very same people for the verysame reasons you have, I have and every poster here has and has repeatedly.

So it's pretty strange to condemn him for the 'sins' we ourselves committed long before he entered the picture.

Spot-on, Norm.   888high58888
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I don't "condemn" him for doing the same thing as conservatives have done, because that's not what he's doing.

But I think you know that, Norm.  And I think you know he can't tolerate people who don't do and think of him exactly what he wants.  He's not going after the press on principle as we have done.  He's going after the press because they say bad things about HIM, and he, being a pre-adolescent in maturity, needs to lash out.
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I see it different. You see it as the press attacking Trump personally, I see it more as them attacking the millions who voted for Trump, as well. 

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