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I'm personally seeing a hell-of-a-lot more than nothing! But I guess you can't see what you refuse to look for!


Hmmm, yeah, issuing half-a$$ed executive orders that bar legally admitted green card holders from entering the U.S. and makes it significantly harder for his own nominee to the Supreme Court to be confirmed.  Where I come from, that's called digging your own grave.

Making the EPA shut down a website, but not doing a damned thing about the bureaucrats who put the website up.  Where I come from, that's empty theater.

You may want to stop by the next optometrists office you pass, methinks you need new glasses.

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Oh I'm definitely going to post from Politico doubly now.


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Oh I'm definitely going to post from Politico doubly now.


I enjoy wrecking safe spaces.

Knock yourself out cupcake!  Still won't make me read them!
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Did you read the article?

I read it. Nothing there.
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Knock yourself out cupcake!  Still won't make me read them!


That fine, Biguns.

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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/donald-the-weak-214771


Donald Trump ran for president boasting of his supposedly legendary negotiating and management skills while promising that he alone could fix the problems ailing the country. But three weeks into his presidency, a combination of inexperience, lack of attention to detail and an engaged opposition inside and outside the government have left him as the weakest new president in modern American history.


Well...gosh.   If a rabid leftie like Miller bleats it.....I guess it must be twue.  (</extreme sarcasm>)
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ah.  And I suppose you'll also shout out loudly about your proud and willful ignorance?

An honest person would be embarrassed to behave that way.

You can pretend this article is hard hitting, probing reportage, but calling a president "ineffectual" after 23 days is laughable.


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Never trust anyone who thinks politico is real news.  Used to be a time conservatives were smart enough to know this. :shrug:

What I see are:

Low Information "conservatives"

#nevertrump obsessives

...but very, very little solid analysis and commentary. Just 23 days in and concluding failure is absurd on the surface.

Anybody that can't understand that isn't worth proving their idiocy.
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Hmmm, yeah, issuing half-a$$ed executive orders that bar legally admitted green card holders from entering the U.S. and makes it significantly harder for his own nominee to the Supreme Court to be confirmed.  Where I come from, that's called digging your own grave.

Making the EPA shut down a website, but not doing a damned thing about the bureaucrats who put the website up.  Where I come from, that's empty theater.

You may want to stop by the next optometrists office you pass, methinks you need new glasses.

I see one hell of a strong cabinet emerging, many ICE raids taking place, long time political hacks departing the Department of State and the laws being generally enforced for a change!  But you're right I might need to get my eyes re-tested because I'm sure I missed a few things!
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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What I see are:

Low Information "conservatives"

#nevertrump obsessives

...but very, very little solid analysis and commentary. Just 23 days in and concluding failure is absurd on the surface.

Anybody that can't understand that isn't worth proving their idiocy.

The anti-Trump antipathy is borderline psychotic.

And I was rooting for the other guy in the primaries.

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The anti-Trump antipathy is borderline psychotic.

And I was rooting for the other guy in the primaries.

 888high58888

I TOTALLY agree and so was I!

It is becoming completely ridiculous!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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You can pretend this article is hard hitting, probing reportage, but calling a president "ineffectual" after 23 days is laughable.

I haven't commented about the article.

I'm commenting on willful ignorance.  It's nothing to be proud of.

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I haven't commented about the article.

I'm commenting on willful ignorance.  It's nothing to be proud of.

Thats your characterization. Meant to be a put-down, I get it.

Actually, since there's only so much time in a day and most of us don't have time to read everything we come across we discard material thats ridiculous on its face and focus on whats credible.

Common sense, right?
« Last Edit: February 13, 2017, 02:18:48 am by skeeter »

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Politico has a very strong vested interest in keeping things in Washington as they too long have been and I see no reason to read anything coming from that source!  I feel the exact same about the NY Times and the Washington Post.  They ALL have an agenda and we should, by now, know what it is!

If Ted Cruz were president they would be writing the same exact drivel!

Exactly.  It gets to the point when you get tired of reading the same b.s. from the same crap media sources and it's easier just to bypass them as they no longer have any credibility whatsoever.
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What I see are:

Low Information "conservatives"

#nevertrump obsessives

...but very, very little solid analysis and commentary. Just 23 days in and concluding failure is absurd on the surface.

Anybody that can't understand that isn't worth proving their idiocy.

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Thats your characterization. Meant to be a put-down, I get it.

Actually, since there's only so much time in a day and most of us don't have time to read everything we come across we discard material thats ridiculous on its face and focus on whats credible.

Common sense, right?

So... the guy attacks an article he hasn't even read.  Are you defending that?

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So... the guy attacks an article he hasn't even read.  Are you defending that?

I certainly am.

Make of that what you want.

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I didn't read your response, but it was wrong.



The difference is you didn't read my headline either.

Now thats weird.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2017, 02:34:04 am by skeeter »

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As someone who was anything-BUT enthralled with God the Donald...

...I'll posit...

...his critics do themselves no favors, they burn credibility, in attacking so stridently, so aggressively, TWENTY-THREE DAYS IN.  That's about like hiring a janitor on a Monday morning, and then on Wednesday, firing him for the water damage on the lunchroom floor and the dry-rot on the roof.

ASININE.

You want to know which side I come down on?  NEITHER.  The Never-Trump kooks and the Trump-is-Hitler kooks and the Supertrump worshippers, are all about equally disgusting.

I want to see some adherence to, some solutions and changes in line with TRADITIONAL AMERICAN VALUES.

Which is the one thing all those groups, and others, agree are not worth consideration.

 **nononono*

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As someone who was anything-BUT enthralled with God the Donald...

...I'll posit...

...his critics do themselves no favors, they burn credibility, in attacking so stridently, so aggressively, TWENTY-THREE DAYS IN.  That's about like hiring a janitor on a Monday morning, and then on Wednesday, firing him for the water damage on the lunchroom floor and the dry-rot on the roof.

ASININE.

You want to know which side I come down on?  NEITHER.  The Never-Trump kooks and the Trump-is-Hitler kooks and the Supertrump worshippers, are all about equally disgusting.

I want to see some adherence to, some solutions and changes in line with TRADITIONAL AMERICAN VALUES.

Which is the one thing all those groups, and others, agree are not worth consideration.

 **nononono*

I'm thinkin you and I are pretty much on the same page!  :beer:
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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I'm thinkin you and I are pretty much on the same page!  :beer:

Make that.....the three of us.  JPT has his moments.   :beer:
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Never trust anyone who thinks politico is real news.  Used to be a time conservatives were smart enough to know this. :shrug:

There's your answer right there.  Conservatives still are smart enough not to do politico.

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As someone who was anything-BUT enthralled with God the Donald...

...I'll posit...

...his critics do themselves no favors, they burn credibility, in attacking so stridently, so aggressively, TWENTY-THREE DAYS IN.  That's about like hiring a janitor on a Monday morning, and then on Wednesday, firing him for the water damage on the lunchroom floor and the dry-rot on the roof.

ASININE.

You want to know which side I come down on?  NEITHER.  The Never-Trump kooks and the Trump-is-Hitler kooks and the Supertrump worshippers, are all about equally disgusting.

I want to see some adherence to, some solutions and changes in line with TRADITIONAL AMERICAN VALUES.

Which is the one thing all those groups, and others, agree are not worth consideration.

 **nononono*

@JustPassinThru

Gee, I didn't realize the POTUS was supposed to be a junior JV level position where amateurs are entitled to learn on the job.

I'm sorry that you have such low expectations for the person who fills the most important office in the country, if not the world.

I, however, expect competence out of the door from the person who presumes to be POTUS material.  There are no mulligans or do-overs when it comes to things like nuclear weapons, so the person who becomes the POTUS doesn't get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his or her competence.

There is nothing wrong with hiring a janitor and expecting him to be a competent janitor from day 1.  The same goes for the POTUS.

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All first term presidents are amateurs and rely on on the job training with the help of, hopefully, his learned and experienced Cabinet.

With all due respect, that doesn't fly.  Nukes don't belong in the hands of an amateur.  If Trumpists have to fall back on the "he just needs more experience" excuse when the going gets tough, then he is as bad as we skeptics have always pointed out.

Tell me, would you go under the knife of a heart surgeon who wasn't an absolute expert at her trade?  If you wouldn't, then why would you be willing to go under the metaphorical knife of a half-a$$ed president?