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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2016, 07:55:19 pm »


I think I've made my point...
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2016, 07:59:35 pm »
Quote from: rangerrebew on November 16, 2016, 01:06:58 pm
(CNSNews.com) - The bill has no chance of passing, but nevertheless, Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), a supporter of Hillary Clinton, on Tuesday introduced legislation that would eliminate the constitutionally established Electoral College [1] and have future presidents elected by the direct, popular vote.

Even if this should happen to pass both houses of Congress by a two-thirds majority, there is no way possible that 38 states would forfeit their rights to elect the President.
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2016, 08:06:48 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on November 16, 2016, 07:59:35 pm
Even if this should happen to pass both houses of Congress by a two-thirds majority, there is no way possible that 38 states would forfeit their rights to elect the President.

Boxer and Reid "passing" from the Senate is equivalent to "passing" impacted bowels from one's digestive system.
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2016, 08:26:47 pm »
Yeah sure, this is a great idea. Let's have all Presidents chosen by New York, Chicago, and California. You don't need any other input than that anyway.
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2016, 08:31:38 pm »
Quote from: 240B on November 16, 2016, 08:26:47 pm
Yeah sure, this is a great idea. Let's have all Presidents chosen by New York, Chicago, and California. You don't need any other input than that anyway.




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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2016, 08:39:07 pm »
Quote from: r9etb on November 16, 2016, 07:24:44 pm
Oh, come now.  That's ridiculous. 

Oh really?

If Boxer floated a bill to eliminate the Second Amendment - what do you call that after she and the rest of the 535 despots who run the Legislature took an oath to uphold that which they have decided no longer to uphold, but abolish???

I call it treason.
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2016, 08:45:17 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on November 16, 2016, 08:39:07 pm
Oh really?

If Boxer floated a bill to eliminate the Second Amendment - what do you call that after she and the rest of the 535 despots who run the Legislature took an oath to uphold that which they have decided no longer to uphold, but abolish???

I call it treason.

Whatever. 
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2016, 08:56:39 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on November 16, 2016, 08:31:38 pm



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Conveniently forgotten by Trump supporters.

Bet ol' Donal LOVES the EC now.

Such is the way of malleable ethics......
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2016, 08:57:58 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on November 16, 2016, 08:56:39 pm
Conveniently forgotten by Trump supporters.

Bet ol' Donal LOVES the EC now.

Such is the way of malleable ethics......

He better learn to love it...otherwise he'd have lost by around a million votes and the Trump fans would be grumbling along with you and me about President-elect Clinton.
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2016, 09:01:00 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on November 16, 2016, 08:31:38 pm



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Gee, Donald Trump takes the Democrat position.  Go figure.
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2016, 09:01:12 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on November 16, 2016, 08:57:58 pm
He better learn to love it...otherwise he'd have lost by around a million votes and the Trump fans would be grumbling along with you and me about President-elect Clinton.

Indeed.  But if we grumbled with them, would they still accuse us of supporting Hillary?

(Rhetorical question.  They will ALWAYS accuse us of the BIG LIE).
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2016, 09:05:44 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on November 16, 2016, 08:31:38 pm



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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2016, 09:06:40 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on November 16, 2016, 08:57:58 pm
He better learn to love it...otherwise he'd have lost by around a million votes and the Trump fans would be grumbling along with you and me about President-elect Clinton.

When did Trump fans quit grumbling?
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2016, 09:10:46 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on November 16, 2016, 09:06:40 pm
When did Trump fans quit grumbling?

Good point.
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2016, 09:24:00 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on November 16, 2016, 08:56:39 pm
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Bet ol' Donal LOVES the EC now.

Such is the way of malleable ethics......

Please, stop insulting me.  Thanks.
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2016, 01:19:33 am »
Quote from: musiclady on November 16, 2016, 08:56:39 pm
Conveniently forgotten by Trump supporters.

Bet ol' Donal LOVES the EC now.

Such is the way of malleable ethics......

I believe that Trump has been consistent in his opposition to the EC, including following his victory.  The fact that he benefitted from a procedure he's apparently never liked doesn't strike me as an ethical lapse.   
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Re: Boxer Floats Bill to Eliminate Electoral College; Reid Questions Legitimacy of Trump's Victory
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2016, 02:17:28 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on November 17, 2016, 01:19:33 am
I believe that Trump has been consistent in his opposition to the EC, including following his victory.  The fact that he benefitted from a procedure he's apparently never liked doesn't strike me as an ethical lapse.

You're right.  We don't know that Trump now accepts as legitimate the thing that helped him WIN.

But his lack of integrity in other things makes that a fair assumption.

That's the problem with electing a person who is absent character.  He can't be trusted with things large or small.
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