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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2016, 12:52:42 am »
Anyway, I'm sorry for hijacking this thread and making it about me. I just wanted to 1) rant and 2) give some perspective from an actual single guy.

It's OK, @jmyrlefuller , it really is. AFIC, you can talk about it as much as you wish. I was single for soooo long and had pretty much given up and then I met the love of my life. If it can happen to a weirdo like me, it can happen to a normal person like you.  ^-^

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2016, 01:49:34 am »
Anyway, I'm sorry for hijacking this thread and making it about me. I just wanted to 1) rant and 2) give some perspective from an actual single guy.
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I wholeheartedly agree with the poster who recommended meeting a woman at church.  Women love a Godly man.  Just sayin...........

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #52 on: November 02, 2016, 02:05:13 am »
I wholeheartedly agree with the poster who recommended meeting a woman at church.  Women love a Godly man.  Just sayin...........
Tried that. Didn't work.

My church is full of married couples with young children. The lone single woman there freaked out and left when I broached the topic of dating, and that was after we had grown close to each other. Furthermore, finding a new church isn't quite so simple—I'm a musician in the church band. I'm about the only reliable member of that band (and besides, I know the other churches in the area don't have any single women, either). All she ever saw me as was a singing monkey.

She's the reason I lost whatever confidence it had taken me years to muster and recover.
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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #53 on: November 02, 2016, 02:06:05 am »
I recently turned 40. I'm a single woman, I haven't been on a date since 2003. I'm an odd one. But in college the guy I dated was significantly stupider than I am, and then I went to grad school. In grad school, the only people I met were obnoxious upper middle class liberals and progressives with whom I had nothing in common. After that, I was working full-time and writing a dissertation. By the time I blinked, I was over 30, settled in a solitary life, and a complete misanthrope. I don't practice a religion, I'm not a joiner, and I hate loud, crowded places. Therefore, I have had to come to terms with the likelihood that I'll remain single.

So, all that stated, I have to say that within my generation (the tail end of GenX) there is plenty of blame for both sexes. My generation experienced so many broken families that I don't think most of them know what a stable relationship looks like. And by the time we got to college, the hook-up culture was just getting started. And then we graduated, and many of the men just never grew up. Now, honestly, I think that in the case of many men it takes a woman to make a man into a man rather than an overgrown boy, but thanks to the hook-up culture, there was no need to get married. So now you've got a generation of 40-something overgrown boys wandering around online and a bunch of disgusted 40-something women who've either divorced or given up!  It's a vicious cycle. :) 
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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #54 on: November 02, 2016, 02:21:51 am »
I recently turned 40. I'm a single woman, I haven't been on a date since 2003. I'm an odd one. But in college the guy I dated was significantly stupider than I am, and then I went to grad school. In grad school, the only people I met were obnoxious upper middle class liberals and progressives with whom I had nothing in common. After that, I was working full-time and writing a dissertation. By the time I blinked, I was over 30, settled in a solitary life, and a complete misanthrope. I don't practice a religion, I'm not a joiner, and I hate loud, crowded places. Therefore, I have had to come to terms with the likelihood that I'll remain single.

So, all that stated, I have to say that within my generation (the tail end of GenX) there is plenty of blame for both sexes. My generation experienced so many broken families that I don't think most of them know what a stable relationship looks like. And by the time we got to college, the hook-up culture was just getting started. And then we graduated, and many of the men just never grew up. Now, honestly, I think that in the case of many men it takes a woman to make a man into a man rather than an overgrown boy, but thanks to the hook-up culture, there was no need to get married. So now you've got a generation of 40-something overgrown boys wandering around online and a bunch of disgusted 40-something women who've either divorced or given up!  It's a vicious cycle. :)
So basically, you're telling me it's hopeless.

Great.
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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #55 on: November 02, 2016, 02:34:02 am »
So basically, you're telling me it's hopeless.

Great.


Take my post with a grain of salt. As I said, I'm a misanthrope. And I see the world in large brushstrokes, not the details. YMMV, and all that. :)

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #56 on: November 02, 2016, 02:35:52 am »
Definitely.



We've been scammed.   :silly:

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #57 on: November 02, 2016, 02:36:29 am »
So basically, you're telling me it's hopeless.

Great.

It is in no way hopeless, @jmyrlefuller

I'm telling you that I myself thought it was hopeless and then I ended up with my perfect mate.  ^-^

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #58 on: November 02, 2016, 02:39:53 am »
So basically, you're telling me it's hopeless.

Great.

Yeah, I wanted to slit my wrists after reading her post too. LOL.

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #59 on: November 02, 2016, 03:10:43 am »
I can assure you that's not the case with me. The 9s and 10s around here are all off the market by high school graduation, and that's no exaggeration. (There were quite a few in college, but I never felt like college was a place where I could build something long-term and I didn't really focus on wanting this until after I graduated. My plan was to get a job in my field, then hopefully find love. I ended up failing in both regards; I have paying work, but it's not all that great.) Besides, I'd never really be comfortable dating someone that hot, simply because I'd be facing so much competition.

That's the major problem I face: where I live, there are so many more men than women. It always has been that way, and what few women are here date guys from out of town. I try dating out of town and, like I said, the standard excuse after a simple hello is "sorry, I'm looking for someone closer." I don't have that luxury, and I'm really not keen on totally uprooting everything and trying to effectively start over just to have the chance at this.
@jmyrlefuller, @Weird Tolkienish Figure actually had a good point, because your lack of self-confidence with women is obvious from your posts.  That is like anti-viagra for women.  Not to say you should be arrogant, but you have to be comfortable enough in your own skin that women sense you don't truly need them to be happy.  Be happy with yourself, and the rest will follow.

 I had some similar confidence issues until i started hitting the weights in my 20's.  Chemically proven to build male self-confidence.  Something like joining a gym is a good way to start  - not as a meat market but to actually work out on your own.  Anything athletic, really, can make you feel better about yourself, and others sense it.  If you're younger, you can get results pretty fast.

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #60 on: November 02, 2016, 03:13:48 am »
Oh, and don't fret too much about "all the good ones being gone.  A fair chunk of them will come back on the market again at some point.

And please don't think there's a clock running, becaise of you're a decent, nice guy, the market actually improves for you as you get older.  But you do need just a touch of swag.

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #61 on: November 02, 2016, 03:14:56 am »
  Chemically proven to build male self-confidence. 

I agree with this guy about the chemicals. Start carrying and using moderate street drugs. I can't tell you how many times I scored back in the day because I had fantastic weed or a decent 8 ball. Party chicks dig it.

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #62 on: November 02, 2016, 03:24:25 am »
Oh, and don't fret too much about "all the good ones being gone.  A fair chunk of them will come back on the market again at some point.

And please don't think there's a clock running, becaise of you're a decent, nice guy, the market actually improves for you as you get older.  But you do need just a touch of swag.

Yep, come back on the market with 4 rugrats from a different sperm donor trailing behind them.

I don't agree with the second line at all. I remember how tough it was to find decent women in my 30's..picking through scraps that no one else wanted.. Harsh line but the truth...though I did find my wife in our 30's but we both lucked out.

I still remember my dad  and brother telling me in my late 20's I better start finding a wife because all the good ones will be picked over. They were right.

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #63 on: November 02, 2016, 05:40:47 am »
So basically, you're telling me it's hopeless.

Great.

No, but truly all I can tell you being 48 and never found the one just keep your standards high and basically don't give a crap. Focus on you and your family, get to where you want to be in life, and just be happy being yourself.

I did that and frankly women flock to me, gorgeous women and quite a few that are way too young for me. I'm nice but I'm focused on finding the right one.

If she never shows, then what am I missing out on? It's not a pretty dating world out there, hard to miss something that's that screwed up. Women and people aren't what they used to be, even 10 years ago.
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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #64 on: November 02, 2016, 11:35:07 am »
I agree with this guy about the chemicals. Start carrying and using moderate street drugs. I can't tell you how many times I scored back in the day because I had fantastic weed or a decent 8 ball. Party chicks dig it.

 :silly: I think you're taking too many tips from the perps you've been catching, Frank!

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #65 on: November 02, 2016, 11:39:59 am »
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If she never shows, then what am I missing out on?
I'm missing out on having a family the right way, that's what.

I want to eventually have a child someday. The older I get, the more risk I take on of that kid having serious problems, such as autism. Furthermore I see the demographic problems we're facing in this country (an increasingly older population, having fewer kids, more non-Americans coming in driving up the population, etc.) and I want to do my part to help fix it, but I can't. I don't want to be a genetic dead end—call it eugenics, call it what you will, but I got pretty lucky in regard to my health and I want to pass that on to the next generation; it'd be one heck of a waste if I never got to do that.
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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #66 on: November 02, 2016, 02:26:58 pm »
I don't know what young men are doing while all this drinking is going on - prolly playing video games.

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« Reply #67 on: November 02, 2016, 02:32:44 pm »
Of course a women's column would call men lazy.

The fact is, when a man makes a huge emotional investment in a woman only to basically be given the friend zone treatment (or worse), over and over again, it makes a man feel subhuman and not want to do it anymore. Women of my generation are cruel.

Plus, when you get over a certain age—and that age is much younger than most people realize, try 22—the best women are already off the market. If you're 30 and still looking, you're going to have to either settle for less than you deserve (and even then you'll need a lot of luck to find that) or be alone for the rest of your life.

I have grown to totally hate the romantic process. I'm sick of the excuses I get for getting rejected. The outright lies (a woman once told me she planned on being alone the rest of her life, only to bring her new boyfriend into my place of work for her first date). The utter lack of respect for a man's needs, even when I strain and strive to meet my potential partners. The constant insinuation that I'm sexually harassing a woman when I try, and lazy when I don't.

I want desperately to be loved in return and to have a basic companionship. I pray to God daily for it. I've tried every person in a 10-mile radius, every one either didn't meet my relatively low standards or rejected me. I tried online dating, got no responses, and when I made the first move I repeatedly got ignored or got the excuse that "you live too far away" even when it was less than 100 miles and I was willing to do all the traveling.

I've basically come to the conclusion that I'm never going to have it. I beg of someone to prove me wrong on this.

I assure you... you are not the only one that could have written that.  At 44, I am probably never going to marry.  All my best girl-space-friends are married and the best I can do is hurry up and get my mortgage paid off so when I go, one of them can have my farm.

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #68 on: November 02, 2016, 02:41:11 pm »
Of course a women's column would call men lazy.

The fact is, when a man makes a huge emotional investment in a woman only to basically be given the friend zone treatment (or worse), over and over again, it makes a man feel subhuman and not want to do it anymore. Women of my generation are cruel.

Plus, when you get over a certain age—and that age is much younger than most people realize, try 22—the best women are already off the market. If you're 30 and still looking, you're going to have to either settle for less than you deserve (and even then you'll need a lot of luck to find that) or be alone for the rest of your life.

I have grown to totally hate the romantic process. I'm sick of the excuses I get for getting rejected. The outright lies (a woman once told me she planned on being alone the rest of her life, only to bring her new boyfriend into my place of work for her first date). The utter lack of respect for a man's needs, even when I strain and strive to meet my potential partners. The constant insinuation that I'm sexually harassing a woman when I try, and lazy when I don't.

I want desperately to be loved in return and to have a basic companionship. I pray to God daily for it. I've tried every person in a 10-mile radius, every one either didn't meet my relatively low standards or rejected me. I tried online dating, got no responses, and when I made the first move I repeatedly got ignored or got the excuse that "you live too far away" even when it was less than 100 miles and I was willing to do all the traveling.

I've basically come to the conclusion that I'm never going to have it. I beg of someone to prove me wrong on this.


You're stuck in the bitter man syndrome, blaming all your problems on the opposite sex. It's a nasty cycle, you think you're wronged by dem evil womens and you get angrier which only drives them away even more.

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #69 on: November 02, 2016, 02:42:35 pm »

If she can't make good chili, cornbread, and real taters with brown gravy, pass her on by



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWpYQjuJ0u0

The sad thing, is that I literally need someone to "put another log on the fire"... while I am at work... or especially while deployed to the field for a week at a time in the middle of winter.  The old HotBlast furnace [edit] and three cats[/edit] is the only heat I have.
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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #70 on: November 02, 2016, 02:45:02 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWpYQjuJ0u0

The sad thing, is that I literally need someone to "put another log on the fire"... while I am at work... or especially while deployed to the field for a week at a time in the middle of winter.  The old HotBlast furnace [edit] and three cats[/edit] is the only heat I have.
So you are the one causing global warming....I KNEW IT!   8888forgot
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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #71 on: November 02, 2016, 02:50:19 pm »
If I were young and single and out of college,  I'd probably try to use a dating service.   My daughter used one and has been dating the same guy for almost two years now.   We have a local outfit called "It's Just Lunch" that seems like a good concept -  folks just get together,  with reduced pressure, for lunch, and take it from there.  It's a service marketed to busy urban professionals.   

I met my wife over forty years ago at a mixer my freshman year of college.  We've been together ever since (I'm almost 60 now)   She was only the second woman I ever dated.  My mom got off to a rocky start with her, because she didn't trust my instincts and felt I should sow some oats.   But it worked out, and I've never seen an oat, much less sown one.   

My sister met her husband after striking up a conversation on a train.  As Neil Young sang,  just around the next corner may be waiting your true love.   
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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #72 on: November 02, 2016, 02:54:13 pm »
You need focus, son. To many swingin' career chasers out there.

If she can't make good chili, cornbread, and real taters with brown gravy, pass her on by - she ain't looking for a man anyhow. If you say, "Lets go to the church social,' and she says, "what can I bring, should I bake a pie or something?" ... That one's a keeper. At least you know her mamma raised her right, and she's honed her skills...

And I'm only half kidding.

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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #73 on: November 02, 2016, 02:57:15 pm »
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Re: Why Men Are Remaining Single
« Reply #74 on: November 02, 2016, 02:58:04 pm »

Take my post with a grain of salt. As I said, I'm a misanthrope. And I see the world in large brushstrokes, not the details. YMMV, and all that. :)

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