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               From:john.podesta@gmail.com
               To: jake.sullivan@gmail.com
               Date: 2015-03-19 17:58
               Subject: Re: NYT | Email Content
               
            


         

            

               We should push for this tonight if possible. NYT may have an incoherent
story, but they seem to be fixing to call her a liar on the front page.
On Mar 19, 2015 2:36 PM, "Jake Sullivan" <jake.sullivan@gmail.com> wrote:

> This would seem to give a new imperative.  The committee is leaking
> particular bits of information.  Would be worth someone convincing State to
> just launch.
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Cheryl Mills <cheryl.mills@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We have asking state to do that
>>
>> cdm
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Jake Sullivan <jake.sullivan@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> What do people think about releasing all the emails that went to Gowdy?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Nick Merrill <nmerrill@hrcoffice.com> wrote:
>>
>> Alright, just heard back.  See below.  He is trying to save face and
>> being helped by his source trying to save face.
>>
>>
>>  nick,
>>
>> i have read your email.
>>
>> we're not saying that her advisers exclusively used their personal
>> accounts. we're just saying that they used their personal accounts at times
>> to communicate with mrs. clinton on her personal account.
>>
>> for example, many emails jake sent or received from the secretary were
>> from his state.gov account. but he did send mrs. clinton an email in
>> april 2012 from his personal account that outlined her leadership in
>> bringing down the qaddafi regime.
>>
>>  so what we're seeking an answer to -- along with the other questions i
>> sent you -- is why did her advisers at times use personal addresses to
>> communicate with her?
>>
>>  meanwhile, below is some new information i have about the emails that i
>> want to flag you on to see if you want to respond to them. we're running
>> out of time and need a response by 4 p.m.
>>
>>  thnx.
>>
>>  new information:
>>
>>  A month after the Benghazi attacks, the Republican controlled House
>> Oversight Committee held a hearing about the security at the American
>> diplomatic compound in Benghazi. The former chief security officer for the
>> American Embassy in Libya testified that the State Department had thwarted
>> his request to extend the deployment of an American military team in Libya.
>> The State Department’s under secretary for management, Patrick Kennedy,
>> testified that the extended deployment would have altered the outcome. "Did
>> we survive the day?" Mrs. Clinton wrote in an email to Mr.
>> Sullivan. “Survive, yes,” Mr. Sullivan said in response. “Pat helped level
>> set things tonight and we’ll see where we are in the morning.”
>>
>>
>>  we now have a direct quote on the sullivan email to mrs. clinton that
>> included a transcript of susan rice's appearance on one of the sunday talk
>> shows: "She did make clear our view that this started spontaneously then
>> evolved," Mr. Sullivan said.
>>
>>   From: NSM <nmerrill@hrcoffice.com>
>> Date: Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 12:46 PM
>> To: John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Philippe Reines <pir@hrcoffice.com>, Huma Abedin <huma@hrcoffice.com>,
>> Jennifer Palmieri <jennifer.m.palmieri@gmail.com>, Robby Mook <
>> robbymook2015@gmail.com>, "hsamuelson@cdmillsgroup.com" <
>> hsamuelson@cdmillsgroup.com>, Cheryl Mills <cheryl.mills@gmail.com>,
>> Jacob Sullivan <Jake.sullivan@gmail.com>, David Kendall <DKendall@wc.com>,
>> Kristina Schake <kristinakschake@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: NYT | Email Content
>>
>>   Not a peep from the Times since I sent this.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:02 PM, John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Where does this stand?
>>
>> JP
>> --Sent from my iPad--
>> john.podesta@gmail.com
>> For scheduling: eryn.sepp@gmail.com
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2015, at 11:52 PM, Nick Merrill <nmerrill@hrcoffice.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>   Heather, Philippe and I spent a couple of hours on the phone just now
>> talking through the specifics trying to piece together what Schmidt is
>> being led to believe, and we concluded that from the below he may have a
>> glaring hole in his fact set, which is that he thinks the two Jake emails,
>> the only two he cites as examples of HRC “working completely outside of the
>> system” as he put it to me last night, are emails sent from Jake’s personal
>> account.  The trouble with that is, they were not.  They were both sent
>> from his state.gov accounts, which means that if this is what he’s
>> hanging it hat on, he has wrong information, and not much of a story.
>>
>>  I sent him a note to that effect, telling him that from what he’s sent
>> us, which is these two examples and nothing else, his premise is deeply
>> flawed due to misinformation he seems to have been provided.
>>
>>  We’ll see what he comes back with.  I’ll keep everybody posted.
>>
>>
>>
>>   From: Philippe Reines <pir@hrcoffice.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 8:19 PM
>> To: NSM <nmerrill@hrcoffice.com>
>> Cc: Huma Abedin <huma@hrcoffice.com>, Jennifer Palmieri <
>> jennifer.m.palmieri@gmail.com>, Robby Mook <robbymook2015@gmail.com>,
>> John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com>, "hsamuelson@cdmillsgroup.com" <
>> hsamuelson@cdmillsgroup.com>, Cheryl Mills <cheryl.mills@gmail.com>,
>> Jacob Sullivan <Jake.sullivan@gmail.com>, David Kendall <DKendall@wc.com>,
>> Kristina Schake <kristinakschake@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: NYT | Email Content
>>
>>   Let's get HRC squared away first since he is challenging the pemise
>> that it was her practice to use state.gov.
>>
>>  So Heather, set aside how many we iniated from our personal email, how
>> many of the 19 in the batch of 300 are HER initiating an email to one of
>> the four of us us on our private accounts. Only us, not Sid. There were two
>> more, right?
>>
>>  The one to me & Huma was about getting a DVD and hardly the basis for
>> calling her a liar.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      *From: *Nick Merrill
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:28 PM
>> *To: *Marissa Astor
>> *Cc: *Huma Abedin; jennifer.m.palmieri@gmail.com; Robby Mook; Philippe
>> Reines; John Podesta; hsamuelson@cdmillsgroup.com; cheryl.mills@gmail.com;
>> jake.sullivan@gmail.com; David Kendall; Kristina Schake
>> *Subject: *Re: NYT | Email Content
>>
>>  After some civil but unproductive conversations with Mike Schmidt last
>> night, we followed up with a note to him this afternoon.  He just replied
>> with the below.  Our original note pasted below that.
>>
>>  Curious what peoples' reactions are.  This response doesn't seem to
>> address the core question, and further proves that this is just
>> cherry-picked BS.
>>
>>  Heather one immediate question for you is whether you can give us any
>> details about the emails he's referring to.
>>
>>  Related, HRC reiterated to me today a desire to call for the release of
>> the emails.  I didn't engage because I don't know all of the details here,
>> so I told her I would convey.
>>
>>  ------
>>
>>  Nick,
>>
>> I read your email.
>>
>> Below is a run down of the latest we know about the emails the committee
>> has been given from the State Department. Below that are the questions we
>> have.
>>
>> We would like a response from you by 10 amThursday morning.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>  //
>> HRC received an email from Jake Sullivan shortly after Susan Rice went on
>> the Sunday talk shows after the attacks. In the email was a transcript
>> from one of the shows and a note from Sullivan saying that Rice had made
>> the administration’s view clear that the attacks started spontaneously and
>> then evolved. Two weeks later, Sullivan sent HRC an email outlining what
>> she had said publicly about the matter, assuring her that she had never
>> described the attacks as spontaneous and she had never characterized the
>> attackers’ motives.
>> HRC did not send many long emails. Many of them were to Sullivan and
>> included news stories and the message: “Please print.” The emails show that
>> four of HRC’s closest advisers at the State Department used private email
>> accounts for some of their correspondences with her when she was Secretary
>> of State. The documents show messages between HRC’s personal account and
>> the private ones of her chief of staff, Cheryl Mills; senior adviser,
>> Philippe Reines; personal aide Huma Abedin; and Mr. Sullivan.
>>
>>
>>
>> The questions I have for you are the same ones I sent before:
>>
>>
>> Why did the advisers use private email accounts – instead of government
>> ones – to correspond with Mrs. Clinton?
>>
>> Was this the normal practice?
>>
>> Why did Mrs. Clinton suggest that her emails were being captured in the
>> State Department system when she was corresponding at times with her aides
>> on their personal accounts?
>>
>> Were Mrs. Clinton’s advisers given legal advice about whether it was
>> appropriate for them to correspond with her using their personal accounts?
>>
>> Why did Mrs. Clinton rely on the advice of Sidney Blumenthal?
>>
>>  ---------
>>
>>   Hi Michael,
>>
>>  Given the nature of the below involving facts that are under review by
>> both the State Department and the select committee, I’m asking that this
>> all be considered *off the record*.  I say this because I want to share
>> some of these details in an effort to better convey why we still find
>> ourselves not clear on the core elements of this story, making it difficult
>> to respond to your questions.
>>
>>  Here’s what I know.  I know that you have emails or information about
>> emails that were sent between Secretary Clinton and a personal account of
>> one of her staff.  You described that the majority of them came from the
>> 300 turned over to the select committee by the State Department, but that
>> based on your reporting you weren't certain.  I would note that by
>> definition if the emails involved personal addresses and were not forwarded
>> to the State system, they had to come from the 300 grouping, because
>> otherwise State would not have had them until they received the latest
>> batch (the 300 earlier this year).  So either they are part of a group that
>> came from a batch that the State Department already had in their
>> possession, which would seem to contradict your premise, or they came from
>> the 300.
>>
>>  Based on this, assuming they came from the 300, we’re familiar with the
>> 300.  One of the things we know is that there is a handful of emails as
>> part of that 300 that did not eventually go to the state.govsystem, as I
>> told you last night.  This was more often than not because they were
>> personal in nature but handed over in an abundance of caution, came from
>> outsiders but had some of the keywords (like Libya) in them, or because
>> they were news articles simply sent to or from a personal account.  The
>> thing we are having trouble figuring out is that based on what you have
>> told us, and the names provided below, the two don’t match up.
>>
>>  And I’d remind you that there is no prohibition on the use of personal
>> email accounts, as you noted on the phone last night, as long as they are
>> preserved, and of course, by virtue of you having these emails, they were
>> not only preserved but disclosed.
>>
>>  So while we want to address your questions, without any sense of the
>> frequency, volume and any characterization of the interactions that were
>> had, nor any verifiable sense of whether these emails did or did not get
>> forwarded to the state.gov system, it’s difficult to do so, particularly
>> since you are asking questions below that seem to characterize these
>> interactions as frequent, but it’s unclear whether that’s substantiated.
>>
>>  So, in short, can we ask you to provide more information about what you
>> intend to write and the facts that will support it so we can more
>> accurately address your questions.
>>
>>  Thanks very much.
>>
>>  Nick
>>
>>
>
            



         
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