‘We Are in for a Pretty Long Civil War’

[kartographer]

And this is one of many myriad reasons why Trump is a far more clear and present danger to your liberty than Hillary.  His mobs want blood, and they are happy to start first with those whom were once part of the GOP who refuse to genuflect their political messiah.

The threats of death and punishment for 'treason' and statements of 'remembering' who is 'against them' for refusing to vote for Trump are becoming more shrill and frequent.  It's not the Marxists they are promising retribution against.

It's Principled Conservatives who refuse to vote for their king.

You have been warned the Watchmen has sounded the alarm. FEAR! FIRE! FOES!! Awake!

Prepare now or be swept away! Your enemy will be both on your left and your right. But beware the one on your right as he is stealthy and comes as a friend or as a thief in the night and will take his revenge and sate his thirst with blood.

[INVAR]

The American people know the score and they've had enough of it.

Yup.  Just like the Italians in 1922 and the Germans in 1933.

A loud minority of malcontents amidst a greater cadre of Socialists that they blame and fear for declining circumstances, demanded a strong man promising retribution on their enemies and remaking the status quo to 'save' their country.

Same song and dance as last century, except this time it's a bad combover instead of a funny little mustache.

Conservatives want to sit around and think, philosophize.  Trump supporters want to DO.

Like 'hunt us down with dogs'/hang us or shoot us for treason simply because we publicly state we are not voting for your prince.

We'll build the wall, rebalance trade agreements, cut taxes, vet Muslin "refugees", reduce regulations, rebuild our military, defeat ISIS and drain the swamp.   

And you'll join the disaffected who still deceive themselves that Barack would end racism, make the ocean levels fall, pay for everyone's gas, lower health care costs, and make the world safe by getting rid of nuclear weapons.

Maybe you will be able to cry on one another's shoulders over the disappointment your false messiah's have brought you.

You can sit around and contemplate why so few were smart enough to wait for you to unwind from your lotus position, stand up and help the rest of us DO what needs to be done.

You and your mob are on your own.  You people made us the enemy waaay back in the primaries and I refuse to help you people 'do' what you think Trump is going to 'do'.

And you end by proving my point beautifully:   Conservatives are the problem for conservatives.   

WRONG.  Conservatives are the problem for big government liberal STATISTS like the lifelong NYC liberal Democrat you got running as top billing on your party ticket.

As for Trump advocating big government solutions---that's absurd.

None so blind….. and all that.

So don't go insulting the "common man". 

BWAHAHAAHAAAHAHAAAHAHAAAHAAAAA!!!!!!

Right!  Trumps a "common man" who understands the 'common man'.

 

Because every 'common man' understands the need to have a solid gold NY apartment with solid gold toilets.

Come down from Mount Olympus and spend some time on planet earth .   Quickly.

That's rich coming from an acolyte for the gilded combover who LIVES in solid gold swank that would make the gods of Olympus blush.

You make me laugh.

[rodamala]

[geronl]

Let it die. I'll join whichever new party is actually conservative without a whiff of Trump

[Cripplecreek]

Let it die. I'll join whichever new party is actually conservative without a whiff of Trump

Ooh that smell
Can't you smell that smell

[geronl]

Ooh that smell
Can't you smell that smell

he's dragged way too many 100 dollar bills through trailer parks

[Right_in_Virginia]

I have read your post several times. My statement stands

Well, let me help you @LMAO   IMO, Conservatism is the superior political doctrine--- the solution, not the problem.

The problem is conservatives---the vast majority are detached, condescending, judgmental, self-righteous, wholly unlikeable messengers --- preferring to segregate themselves to scrutinize, criticize, point fingers and then retreat.  Conservatives do more damage to Conservative doctrine than liberals ever could.

Want to help Conservatism?  Heal thyself.

[rodamala]

Well, let me help you @LMAO   IMO, Conservatism is the superior political doctrine--- the solution, not the problem.

The problem is conservatives---the vast majority are detached, condescending, judgmental, self-righteous, wholly unlikeable messengers --- preferring to segregate themselves to scrutinize, criticize, point fingers and then retreat.  Conservatives do more damage to Conservative doctrine than liberals ever could.

Want to help Conservatism?  Heal thyself.

@LMAO

Pure projection.  Tool of the left.

[Night Hides Not]

Well, let me help you @LMAO   IMO, Conservatism is the superior political doctrine--- the solution, not the problem.

The problem is conservatives---the vast majority are detached, condescending, judgmental, self-righteous, wholly unlikeable messengers --- preferring to segregate themselves to scrutinize, criticize, point fingers and then retreat.  Conservatives do more damage to Conservative doctrine than liberals ever could.

Want to help Conservatism?  Heal thyself.

You're deluding yourself if you consider a crony capitalist like Trump is a conservative.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I"m really tired of this overheated rhetoric... "civil war" etc.


Really stupid IMO. 500,000 died in our last for real Civil War. Seems dumb to call this a Civil War.

[massadvj]

If Trump wins and Hillary, Bill and OPapaDoc are led off in handcuffs I doubt it will be Republicans in the midst of a civil war.  The Dems will want to clean out their own barn, which, if truth be told, is far sleazier than ours.  Trump was able to defeat an establishment "rigged" primary.  The Democrats managed to keep their rigged system intact.  In the end, their farmers with pitchforks are going to come out in full force if they wake up on November 9th with practically no power in the country.

I, for one, can't wait to see what happens when the gays start fighting the blacks, the blacks start fighting the Hispanics, and the transvestites find the ladies room doors locked. Up until now, their gravy train had enough gravy on it for everyone.  If they lose the senate and the white house, the gravy had better dry up, and soon.

[INVAR]

Want to help Conservatism? 

Then stop supporting and voting for liberals running with an 'R' after their name.

But no, you won't - because to support an actual bona-fide Reagan/Constitutional Conservative is said to be detached, condescending, judgmental, self-righteous, and wholly unlikeable according to supporters of liberal statists running as Republicans like yourself.

[LMAO]

Then stop supporting and voting for liberals running with an 'R' after their name.

See tagline.

Trump has promised more spending and a new entitlement program plus has on more than one occasion hinted at some type of government run healthcare.

With rising dependency on government in this country, plus rising debt and deficits, that is unacceptable to me. Not just as a conservative is it unacceptable but just from the standpoint of math and economics. I don't care what party label is behind the grand promises or the good intentions. The law of economics doesn't differentiate party labels.

One of the most distressing events of this whole election is watching people embrace many of the same policies proposals from Trump that, if they came from Team Clinton or BHO, they would otherwise oppose. Some will be voting for Trump simply to keep Clinton out of the away and I get that as I many times get conflicted on this whole race because there is no question what a Hillary presidency will bring. But it doesn't mean one has to embrace every Trump proposal just because of a faint promise of a wall.

We tried Compassionate Conservative once already and it lead to one of the biggest expansions of the federal government since LBJ and lead to BHO with the GOP wandering the wilderness.

Compassionate Conservatism won't have different results under Trump

 

[INVAR]

See tagline.

They're wholly invested in a man whom they insist is a national savior.

So it doesn't matter what they once ridiculed and opposed, if their savior is for it - then they will execute pretzel logic to justify and quantify the liberal statism as a necessary 'good'.

They have lofted all their hopes and dreams on the shoulders of their prince.

And we have seen where that kind of thing goes in history.

[Hoodat]

it's very bad election for globalist neocons. And I for one am very happy about that.

As a Democrat, you should be.

"My concern is that the negligence of a few will adversely affect the majority. I've long been a believer in the "look at the solution, not the problem" theory. In this case, the solution is clear. We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability."

-Donald Trump, globalist-

[driftdiver]

Then stop supporting and voting for liberals running with an 'R' after their name.

But no, you won't - because to support an actual bona-fide Reagan/Constitutional Conservative is said to be detached, condescending, judgmental, self-righteous, and wholly unlikeable according to supporters of liberal statists running as Republicans like yourself.

@Right_in_Virginia

Is there a conservative in the race who has a chance of winning?    Johnson sure isn't a conservative and he's polling about 8%.   

[Hoodat]

Trump was able to defeat an establishment "rigged" primary.

Trump won because of an establishment-rigged primary.  In states like Colorado who told the Establishment to stick it where the sun don't shine, Trump championed the Establishment's cause.  And at the GOP Convention, Trump delegates (who were really Establishment delegates since Trump did nothing to help seat his supporters as delegates) voted to give the Establishment even more power.

Priebus should have been working on his resume right now, but thanks to Trump, he is now a lock at GOP national chairman for the next 8 years.  Because of Trump delegates at the Convention, the Establishment has never been more powerful than they are now.

I, for one, can't wait to see what happens when the gays start fighting the blacks, the blacks start fighting the Hispanics

You and Charles Manson.  Helter Skelter, y'all.

and the transvestites find the ladies room doors locked.

Everywhere but Trump Towers, of course, since Trump champions their 'right' to do whatever in the hell they want.  Funny that you would support a candidate who will do the exact opposite of what you want him to do.  But then that's to be expected when Republicans support Democrats running as Republicans.

[Doug Loss]

No it is a very good election for conservatives however it's very bad election for globalist neocons. And I for one am very happy about that.

It's clear that you and most of the rest of the Trumpenfaithful don't really understand what "conservative" means.  Perhaps you should go study up on the concepts of limited government, constitutionality, the rule of law rather than the rule of men, etc.  If you like, many of us here can point you to useful documents in learning just what actual conservative principles are.  Then, once you've actually learned what real conservatism is, you can come back and participate in the discussions in a meaningful way.  As it is, you are just spouting bumper-sticker-worthy misinformation.

[Hoodat]

Conservatism is the superior political doctrine--- the solution, not the problem.

How do you reconcile that statement with your support for a liberal candidate?

Seriously, which of these Trump positions is not an affront to Conservatism:

• Proposes $1 trillion 'stimulus' bill
• Supports Obamacare mandates
• Supports Kelo
• Supports touchback amnesty
• Proposes new federal entitlement for child care
• Supports taxpayer subsidies for Planned Parenthood

[Doug Loss]

We'll build the wall, rebalance trade agreements, cut taxes, vet Muslin "refugees", reduce regulations, rebuild our military, defeat ISIS and drain the swamp.   You can sit around and contemplate why so few were smart enough to wait for you to unwind from your lotus position, stand up and help the rest of us DO what needs to be done.
[...]
As for Trump advocating big government solutions---that's absurd.  For one thing Trump is a businessman living the obstacles thrown at him and his employees by government interference:   health insurance costs, taxes, regulations, the EPA, to name just a few.   So don't go insulting the "common man".  There is nothing common about surviving the hell created by Washington.

Come down from Mount Olympus and spend some time on planet earth @DiogenesLamp .   Quickly.

Big talk.  The problem is, none of the rest of us believe you have even a remote chance of achieving the things you just claimed "you'll" do.  And if you think Trump has any likelihood of doing so (or even any intention of doing so once he's won the office), you're way out of contact with the real world.

[Doug Loss]

Well, let me help you @LMAO   IMO, Conservatism is the superior political doctrine--- the solution, not the problem.

The problem is conservatives---the vast majority are detached, condescending, judgmental, self-righteous, wholly unlikeable messengers --- preferring to segregate themselves to scrutinize, criticize, point fingers and then retreat.  Conservatives do more damage to Conservative doctrine than liberals ever could.

Want to help Conservatism?  Heal thyself.

Ah, I see.  Everyone conservative who disagrees with you is the problem.  If only they would learn to accept whatever you claim is conservatism, everything would be fine.  Sorry, but those of us who actually have conservative principles know better.

[LMAO]

Ah, I see.  Everyone conservative who disagrees with you is the problem.  If only they would learn to accept whatever you claim is conservatism, everything would be fine.  Sorry, but those of us who actually have conservative principles know better.

@Doug Loss

It appears some believe that conservatism means delivering more government largess to the masses just doing it "smarter"

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Well, let me help you @LMAO   IMO, Conservatism is the superior political doctrine--- the solution, not the problem.

The problem is conservatives---the vast majority are detached, condescending, judgmental, self-righteous, wholly unlikeable messengers --- preferring to segregate themselves to scrutinize, criticize, point fingers and then retreat.  Conservatives do more damage to Conservative doctrine than liberals ever could.

Want to help Conservatism?  Heal thyself.

There's an element of truth to this. Both conservatism and the GOP-e, have been pretty unsuccessful over the past 30 years. We only won the popular vote once, a single time.