(Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?

[geronl]

No problem for the "principled" Cruz to have a rally with Trump, be allies with Trump, move his immigration stance closer to Trump.  So, Cruz was fighting harder against Trump than anyone? Yeah, we see that.

Ted had the same position when he first ran for Senate in 2011, back when Trump wanted open borders and praised the DREAMERS

[HoustonSam]

Who you vote for is your own business. I don't care. Got that?

The question is have *you* got that @aligncare.  What you post going forward will provide the answer, reasoned and intellectually honest pro-Trump-vote arguments in the mode of @Maj. Bill Martin and @don-o , or continued snark?

[Frank Cannon]

Ted had the same position when he first ran for Senate in 2011, back when Trump wanted open borders and praised the DREAMERS

Last I checked, Donny is back to his 2011 position.

[Norm Lenhart]

The question is have *you* got that @aligncare.  What you post going forward will provide the answer, reasoned and intellectually honest pro-Trump-vote arguments in the mode of @Maj. Bill Martin and @don-o , or continued snark?

I know of no logical way that anyone could square 'reasoned' and voting for any documented liberal. The two are mutually exclusive concepts. Supporters of a liberal are by definition, supporters of liberalism. It can't be any other way.

[Smokin Joe]

I know of no logical way that anyone could square 'reasoned' and voting for any documented liberal. The two are mutually exclusive concepts. Supporters of a liberal are by definition, supporters of liberalism. It can't be any other way.

Just as evil is evil, lesser, greater, it all serves the same master.

[TomSea]

Perry will be the next senator from Texas, Texans don't like backstabbers who break promises.

[Doug Loss]

Did I say something that was incorrect?

Constantly.

[Doug Loss]

So, let me get this straight. #NeverTrump hates Donald Trump so bad they're willing to accept a Hillary presidency for 4 or 8 years, so that Ted Cruz is set up in 2020 or 2024 to swoop down from on high, on the backs of heavenly Angels, and be elected president to save America. Have I got that right?

As usual, nope.

[Doug Loss]

Perry will be the next senator from Texas, Texans don't like backstabbers who break promises.

You're not from Texas, are you?

[Jazzhead]

If you count going to Washington and keeping your promises to your constituents and holding your leadership to their promises ANTAGONIZING, then let me buy you a new dictionary.

Cruz is the author of the best single piece of advice in this election year - vote your conscience.

[GrouchoTex]

Perry will be the next senator from Texas, Texans don't like backstabbers who break promises.

Perry has backtracked during his time as Governor as well, as those of us who live here know.
More times over than Cruz.

BTW, I thought this Cruz fella was irrelevant now?
There sure seems to be a lot of people talking about him today on various TBR forums, for some one who is so irrelevant, that's pretty odd!

[Just_Victor]

Perry will be the next senator from Texas, Texans don't like backstabbers who break promises.

Governor Goodhair has quite the record of liberal policies dating back to when the democRATs ran our legislature.  Of course any actual Texan would know that.

[Cripplecreek]

Cruz is the author of the best single piece of advice in this election year - vote your conscience.

Labor to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire, called conscience.
-George Washington

[CSM]

Who you vote for is your own business. I don't care. Got that?

Hahaha!  Your actions speak much louder than these 13 words.

[HoustonSam]

I know of no logical way that anyone could square 'reasoned' and voting for any documented liberal. The two are mutually exclusive concepts. Supporters of a liberal are by definition, supporters of liberalism. It can't be any other way.

There are a few who have reached the conclusion, perhaps with reluctance and definitely with acknowledgement of his manifest shortcomings, that they must support Trump in the hope that he will be better for the US military.  While I don't share in that hope I do respect it, as I respect those who express it with fairness and tact, and I won't reduce their position to a label.

[CSM]

There are a few who have reached the conclusion, perhaps with reluctance and definitely with acknowledgement of his manifest shortcomings, that they must support Trump in the hope that he will be better for the US military.  While I don't share in that hope I do respect it, as I respect those who express it with fairness and tact, and I won't reduce their position to a label.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on that.  I think it is entirely consistent for folks to cast a vote for Trump based on the very narrow scope of a couple of issues, so long as they are honest in their approach.

[Night Hides Not]

I wholeheartedly agree with you on that.  I think it is entirely consistent for folks to cast a vote for Trump based on the very narrow scope of a couple of issues, so long as they are honest in their approach.

The only people I question are those who say they will vote for Hillary or Stein. I'm no fan of Johnson, but he was a two term governor of NM. I'm still holding out hope that Trump will consistently act more Presidential from now until November, but the trend isn't good.

[CSM]

I'm still holding out hope that Trump will consistently act more Presidential from now until November, but the trend isn't good.

I have to admit that he does seem to be acting more Presidential lately, and that is a good thing for him and his supporters.  My problem is that I just don't believe it.  I think his change in behaviour has Roger Ailes' fingerprints all over it and in the future, if Trump wins, he will go back to his lunatic self.

[HoustonSam]

I have to admit that he does seem to be acting more Presidential lately, and that is a good thing for him and his supporters.  My problem is that I just don't believe it.  I think his change in behaviour has Roger Ailes' fingerprints all over it and in the future, if Trump wins, he will go back to his lunatic self.

And I'm with @CSM here.  Trump has had some good things to say in recent weeks, things I believe myself.  The problem is that his trend of rambling narcissistic lunacy is already so well-established that it can't be overcome in my mind.  It is completely obvious that he is simply reading words that others have put in front of him, or attaching his name to written statements provided by others, rather than saying what he actually believes.

I have no problem with someone using speechwriters and media coaches to craft the message.  My problem is when the candidate obviously cares nothing for the message or is ignorant of its meaning and implications because his prior, independent statements included no portion of the message or even contradicted it.  A "bolt on" platform, recited on cue for political expediency, simply doesn't cut it.

[aligncare]

Great advice, Cruz. Especially since it was given at the Republican nominating convention! Vote your conscience and help Hillary Clinton becomes president and destroy your nation for the next two generations. "But, you'll feel good about yourself!" Stupid advice, Cruz. Everyone votes their conscience.

But he make sure everyone got the idea. "Let's all divide the vote" and give the worst, and most liberty-dangerous Democrat ever a good shot at the White House.

Dumb advice, Cruz, dumb. For being so smart, you were really dumb and butthurt at the convention. It was obvious for everyone to see: sour grapes.

[INVAR]

Vote your conscience and help Hillary Clinton becomes president and destroy your nation for the next two generations. "But, you'll feel good about yourself!" Stupid advice, Cruz.

Two things that liberal Statists HATE, whether they be Hillary/Obama's Marxists or Trump's militant Populist Nationalist fascists; they hate your exercise of liberty and they hate that anyone would follow their conscience if it does not bow down and support their Dear Leader.

[sinkspur]

There are a few who have reached the conclusion, perhaps with reluctance and definitely with acknowledgement of his manifest shortcomings, that they must support Trump in the hope that he will be better for the US military.  While I don't share in that hope I do respect it, as I respect those who express it with fairness and tact, and I won't reduce their position to a label.

Yeah.  Trump has such a high opinion of the military.  Why just last night, on O'Reilly, he said this:

[CSM]

Great advice, Cruz. Especially since it was given at the Republican nominating convention! Vote your conscience and help Hillary Clinton becomes president and destroy your nation for the next two generations. "But, you'll feel good about yourself!" Stupid advice, Cruz. Everyone votes their conscience.

But he make sure everyone got the idea. "Let's all divide the vote" and give the worst, and most liberty-dangerous Democrat ever a good shot at the White House.

Dumb advice, Cruz, dumb. For being so smart, you were really dumb and butthurt at the convention. It was obvious for everyone to see: sour grapes.

Conservatives have been begging the African American community to stop their blind allegiance to the D party and to start voting their conscience.  But now we want folks to have blind allegiance to their party and to not vote their conscience. 

It gets so confusing.

[HoustonSam]

Stupid advice, Cruz. Everyone votes their conscience.

If his advice was so mundane that everyone will do it anyway, then why was it stupid and objectionable?  It can only be objectionable if you advocate that people vote against their own conscience, in which case your statement contradicts itself because you've plainly stated that "everyone votes their conscience."

So was Cruz's advice in fact not objectionable since everyone votes their conscience, or do people not vote their own conscience hence his advice is objectionable?  Which part of your position do you choose to maintain?

[Just_Victor]

Conservatives have been begging the African American community to stop their blind allegiance to the D party and to start voting their conscience.  But now we want folks to have blind allegiance to their party and to not vote their conscience. 

It gets so confusing.

Inconsistency is one of the few areas where Trump is consistent.