It’s All Fun and Games, Until Someone Unleashes Death Squads

[Ghost Bear]

No, Trump is more like Reagan, like Lincoln and like Churchill;

Perhaps, the smell of hate is easy to detect in this forum. Must be the establishment or Never-Trumps, fake conservatives, fake Republicans or whomever.

Yes, I see it in the posts of Trumpists here, every day.   

[IsailedawayfromFR]

The Death squads are already here in Obamacare.

[Hoodat]

Luther in fact, started the "Reformation"

Hus and Wycliffe predated Luther by a century and a half.

[DB]

The Death squads are already here in Obamacare.

We've had death squads for a long time. They've killing the most innocent among us, the unborn. Once you cross that bridge it becomes easier to justify more and more killing for the greater good and all.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

We've had death squads for a long time. They've killing the most innocent among us, the unborn. Once you cross that bridge it becomes easier to justify more and more killing for the greater good and all.

Semantics here, but Obamacare is indeed a 'Death Squad' as bureaucrats decide who needs to die and who needs to live.

In contrast, killing the unborn is not decided by bureaucrats, but simply allowed under the law we have.  Decisions are made by those individuals, assisted by money-hungry doctors, who are morally corrupt.

[mountaineer]

Semantics here, but Obamacare is indeed a 'Death Squad' as bureaucrats decide who needs to die and who needs to live.

In contrast, killing the unborn is not decided by bureaucrats, but simply allowed under the law we have.  Decisions are made by those individuals, assisted by money-hungry doctors, who are morally corrupt.

Except that abortionists are funded with tax dollars in many instances.

[aligncare]

So now we're comparing Donald Trump to the leader of the Philippines?

How appropriate as Halloween nears, to see how paranoid #NeverTrumpers are. Dragging out their bogeymen and spooky stories and lining their porches with ghosts and goblins for everyone to see and get a scare. BOO!

As for Max Boot, #NeverTrump was never even in the parking lot of a political movement – it was and always will be an organized emotional release. An orchestrated scream by frightened and paranoid republicans whose candidates happened to lose the presidential primary to Trump.

Very selfish behavior from supposedly adult, experienced republicans -- (principled people, sure) but dumb when it comes to winning national elections.

If they are not careful, they could blow this easy win.

[libertybele]

So now we're comparing Donald Trump to the leader of the Philippines?

How appropriate as Halloween nears, to see how paranoid #NeverTrumpers are. Dragging out their bogeymen and spooky stories and lining their porches with ghosts and goblins for everyone to see and get a scare. BOO!

As for Max Boot, #NeverTrump was never even in the parking lot of a political movement – it was and always will be an organized emotional release. An orchestrated scream by frightened and paranoid republicans whose candidates happened to lose the presidential primary to Trump.

Very selfish behavior from supposedly adult, experienced republicans -- (principled people, sure) but dumb when it comes to winning national elections.

If they are not careful, they could blow this easy win.

Selfish behavior?  Unbelievable. Winning an election, while giving up the Conservative principles and Christian beliefs upon which this country was founded is not what I would consider a win! Perhaps you don't see Trump as a psychopathic narcissist and that you deny that there are any similarities between him, Hitler, and Duterte.  So that would mean that Trump is just a two-bit con man and he’s playing his fools. I find it absolutely astonishing that his followers are that dumb, that easily provoked and that easily manipulated...oh but hey, he might just win the national election.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Except that abortionists are funded with tax dollars in many instances.

Do not disagree with funding comment.

However, the choice to abort is not made by anybody but the individual and her doctor.  It is not a bureaucrat condemning a person to die like a death squad would, just giving others encouragement to do so.

[mountaineer]

Do not disagree with funding comment.

However, the choice to abort is not made by anybody but the individual and her doctor.  It is not a bureaucrat condemning a person to die like a death squad would, just giving others encouragement to do so.

Agreed.

[TomSea]

Can we say the same for Trump?  If it is good for Trump that he changed his mind from his leftist positions, should it not also be OK for others?

Sure, it's valid. But I'm not calling people liars on true statements.

"Buckley was a Segregationist", True.  "No, you're a liar".

"Trump was a Pro-Choicer", True.  That remains true; and the cynics can claim he hasn't changed, that's their right to an opinion.

Of course, I doubt if anyone will concede this point as well. It's not helpful in rock throwing and mud slinging.

 

 :thumbsup3:

Waiting for my brownie points on being truthful.


 

[TomSea]

Semantics here, but Obamacare is indeed a 'Death Squad' as bureaucrats decide who needs to die and who needs to live.

In contrast, killing the unborn is not decided by bureaucrats, but simply allowed under the law we have.  Decisions are made by those individuals, assisted by money-hungry doctors, who are morally corrupt.

If one looks at the fact, that 80% upwards of all Planned Parenthood clinics are in minority neighborhoods; one might say the government is playing a part.

Abortion Rate Among Black Women Far Exceeds Rate for Other Groups
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/04/09/abortion-rate-among-black-women-far-exceeds-rate-for-other-groups.html

So, if abortion is set up to be made available, that should be considered as well.

[TomSea]

But he changed his mind 4 years ago is an awesome reason to vote for Trump. 

We are talking about 2 different situations.

I'm not calling people liars for making true statements.

"Buckley was a segregationist", true, I'm not then saying someone is lying.

"Trump was pro-choice", true and cynics can claim he still is; but no one is then going to accuse someone for making the statement as lying.

Of course, there are many pro-lifers that were once pro-choicers but stone throwers won't be concerned with that, the right to life is not there concern, trashing Trump is. 

So what if one of the early proponents of abortion, co-founder of an abortion rights organization, NARAL and an abortion doctor who performed thousands of abortions , Bernard Nathanson, became a vocal critic of abortion and a stingent pro-lifer, what is important is slinging mud at Donald Trump, not the cause for life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Nathanson



I'd question a lot of Trump detractors as being "pro-life" too; as a Pro-Lifer, I accept the overtures in about any way it comes. I proudly voted for Romney and defended him in the day as well; likewise, statements were made about Romney,

Oh, and Trump never signed abortion into law as a certain governor of California did in the 1960s.

Now, it's always different.

[libertybele]

Semantics here, but Obamacare is indeed a 'Death Squad' as bureaucrats decide who needs to die and who needs to live.

In contrast, killing the unborn is not decided by bureaucrats, but simply allowed under the law we have.  Decisions are made by those individuals, assisted by money-hungry doctors, who are morally corrupt.

Agreed. Let's face it.  Those who are more affluent and have access to the best healthcare will likely live longer.  The notion that Obamacare was created to give health care to the poor and to make healthcare affordable was a sham. Abortion is a personal choice; mandated healthcare is not.

[TomSea]

Abortion is a personal choice; mandated healthcare is not.

This is a pro-choice statement.   

What's next? NOW activists?

[TomSea]

There is plenty to wonder about if Trump detractors, not all, some,  are indeed, just left-wingers.

Some may be establishment, some have their legitimate questions.

[Smokin Joe]

So now we're comparing Donald Trump to the leader of the Philippines?

How appropriate as Halloween nears, to see how paranoid #NeverTrumpers are. Dragging out their bogeymen and spooky stories and lining their porches with ghosts and goblins for everyone to see and get a scare. BOO!

As for Max Boot, #NeverTrump was never even in the parking lot of a political movement – it was and always will be an organized emotional release. An orchestrated scream by frightened and paranoid republicans whose candidates happened to lose the presidential primary to Trump.

Very selfish behavior from supposedly adult, experienced republicans -- (principled people, sure) but dumb when it comes to winning national elections.

If they are not careful, they could blow this easy win.

Do you spew this nonsense on a time schedule like Old Faithful, or is it just random eruptions of ridiculousness?

[Smokin Joe]

This is a pro-choice statement.   

What's next? NOW activists?

If it isn't a personal choice, what is it?
No one, no government entity coerced that person into aborting their baby, they made that choice.
That wasn't a pro-choice statement, but an assignment of responsibility.