WHY HILLARY GAVE THE ‘ALT-RIGHT’ SPEECH

[sinkspur]

WHY HILLARY GAVE THE ‘ALT-RIGHT’ SPEECH


By: Amanda Carpenter | August 26, 2016
 

For all the talk about Hillary Clinton’s “Alt-Right” speech in Reno yesterday not many people are asking why she delivered it. Here is the reason, illustrated in GIF form.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dahKNOdaLjo

See that woman standing behind Trump to the left? She came to his rally, likely because she supports him. Likely because she wants to clap and cheer. Likely because she wants to see a Republican win the White House. But then he wielded the word “bigot” like a sledgehammer, prompting a physical recoil.

Clinton is speaking directly to voters like that woman who are, probably, loyal Republicans but are blown back by Trump’s blunt behavior. An explanation of the Alt-Right provides a reason why voters can be Republican but also not be attracted to Trump. He’s not one of them. He’s Alt-Right, which trafficks in conspiracy theories, white nationalism, and fury.

For goodness sakes, Clinton even defended Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas (A, 97%) from Trump’s smears.

Hardly anyone is feeling the love though when words such as “bigot” are being thrown around, even making some of Trump’s fans question his tactics.

Trump, for his part, denies that the Alt-Right even exists — sure to disappoint his most ardent fans and quite a slam against his new campaign CEO Steve Bannon who styled his website Breitbart News as a champion of it.

"There's no 'alt-right' or 'alt-left.' All I'm embracing is common sense," Trump told CNN’s Anderson Cooper yesterday. "We're bringing love."

Hardly anyone is feeling the love though when words such as “bigot” are being thrown around, even making some of Trump’s fans question his tactics.

And, this gets to the real reason why Clinton gave that speech. She wants to make Trump supporters reconsider their support. She wants to make them squirm. She wants to remind them that most people don’t think, talk, or treat people the way he does. He’s not like you.

What much of the press is missing, however, is how Trump handed Clinton the opportunity to do this by hiring Bannon.

Had Trump not hired Bannon, Clinton would not have given that speech. There would have been no clear and direct link between the Trump campaign and the Alt-Right. As of last week, they are fused.

With Bannon, the Alt-Right is literally running the Trump campaign. And, many Republican voters can now reasonably say, “Yes, I am Republican, but I’m not one of them. I’m not Alt-Right. I don’t have to support Donald Trump.”

Clinton couldn’t have asked Trump to make a better hire to help her campaign

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[Cripplecreek]

We knew it was coming.

The left and the media have been collecting tweets between Trump and his alt right followers for months.

[roamer_1]

We knew it was coming.

The left and the media have been collecting tweets between Trump and his alt right followers for months.

And, I might point out, when Trump goes down in a blistering defeat, the net effect will be:

'Politically correct' is strengthened, because the lack of it will be equated to Trump.
Amnesty will be strengthened because anti-amnesty will be equated with Trump.
GOPe will be vindicated, because anti-GOPe will be equated with Trump.
Anti-White will increase, because Pro-White will be equated to Trump.
Conservatism will be vilified, because it will be equated to the caricature of conservatism that is Trump.
Christianity will be vilified, because it will be equated to the caricature of Christianity that is Trump.
The Wall will be dead and buried, gone.
Fair Trade will be dead and buried, gone.

All because of Trump and his alt-right following.
 

[guitar4jesus]

And, I might point out, when Trump goes down in a blistering defeat, the net effect will be:

'Politically correct' is strengthened, because the lack of it will be equated to Trump.
Amnesty will be strengthened because anti-amnesty will be equated with Trump.
GOPe will be vindicated, because anti-GOPe will be equated with Trump.
Anti-White will increase, because Pro-White will be equated to Trump.
Conservatism will be vilified, because it will be equated to the caricature of conservatism that is Trump.
Christianity will be vilified, because it will be equated to the caricature of Christianity that is Trump.
The Wall will be dead and buried, gone.
Fair Trade will be dead and buried, gone.

All because of Trump and his alt-right following.
 

 

[txradioguy]

And, I might point out, when Trump goes down in a blistering defeat, the net effect will be:

'Politically correct' is strengthened, because the lack of it will be equated to Trump.
Amnesty will be strengthened because anti-amnesty will be equated with Trump.
GOPe will be vindicated, because anti-GOPe will be equated with Trump.
Anti-White will increase, because Pro-White will be equated to Trump.
Conservatism will be vilified, because it will be equated to the caricature of conservatism that is Trump.
Christianity will be vilified, because it will be equated to the caricature of Christianity that is Trump.
The Wall will be dead and buried, gone.
Fair Trade will be dead and buried, gone.

All because of Trump and his alt-right following.
 

 

[jedidah]

I don't know. 

The whole "alt-right" thing is new to me, so I looked for an explanation.  Here's an article from Breitbart in March, back when Bannon was still running the site, written by two alt-righters.  It's long and extremely interesting.

As writers Bokhari and Yiannopoulos (both alt-right oddballs) explain, the KKK and neo-Nazis are only a small fringe element of the "alt-right."

According to them, I'm likely alt-right as a "Natural Conservative," one who isn't ready to write off our history and our traditions in favor of a homogenous society.  That, to me, describes and explains the Trump phenomena.  (Except that so many of us are too repelled by him to vote for him.  I'm angry, but not that angry.)

This could backfire on Hillary.  She may have played into Bannon's plans by shining a spotlight on a segment of the population that is vocal, articulate, tech-savvy, and entirely capable of fighting back with ridicule and humor.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/

[dfwgator]

 
According to them, I'm likely alt-right as a "Natural Conservative," one who isn't ready to write off our history and our traditions in favor of a homogenous society.   

What do you mean by "homogenous society",   you mean actually returning to the concept of a "melting pot" instead of a "tossed salad"?

[guitar4jesus]

What do you mean by "homogenous society",   you mean actually returning to the concept of a "melting pot" instead of a "tossed salad"?

Yikes, Milo and tossed salad mentioned on the same thread......  Not liking that.

[Wingnut]

Yikes, Milo and tossed salad mentioned on the same thread......  Not liking that.

Even I wouldn't touch that line.  So you know it must be loaded with a head of froth.

[jedidah]

What do you mean by "homogenous society",   you mean actually returning to the concept of a "melting pot" instead of a "tossed salad"?

By "homogenous" as relates to current culture, I had more in mind the trend toward socialism:  everybody's the same, deadbeat or achiever, and give me a share of your stuff. 

Not ready for that.  That's a far cry from the hard-working groups who "melted" into our American pot. 

[Wingnut]

By "homogenous" as relates to current culture, I had more in mind the trend toward socialism:  everybody's the same, deadbeat or achiever, and give me a share of your stuff. 

Not ready for that.  That's a far cry from the hard-working groups who "melted" into our American pot.

The term "Melting Pot" is racist today.  Sameness is bad.  Diversity is to be embraced so  to tear the fiber that holds us together as americans....apart.

[Frank Cannon]

Donny calling that shriveled old bag a bigot is probably the best thing he has done thus far. She is a bigot as is most of the Rat party. About time someone called them out on the fact.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

2016: Saying that all lives matter is considered offensive.

How the bleep is that ok?

[HonestJohn]

I don't know. 

The whole "alt-right" thing is new to me, so I looked for an explanation.  Here's an article from Breitbart in March, back when Bannon was still running the site, written by two alt-righters.  It's long and extremely interesting.

As writers Bokhari and Yiannopoulos (both alt-right oddballs) explain, the KKK and neo-Nazis are only a small fringe element of the "alt-right."

According to them, I'm likely alt-right as a "Natural Conservative," one who isn't ready to write off our history and our traditions in favor of a homogenous society.  That, to me, describes and explains the Trump phenomena.  (Except that so many of us are too repelled by him to vote for him.  I'm angry, but not that angry.)

This could backfire on Hillary.  She may have played into Bannon's plans by shining a spotlight on a segment of the population that is vocal, articulate, tech-savvy, and entirely capable of fighting back with ridicule and humor.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/

I hope you realize that was a white-wash (LOL) of the alt-right to make it seem okay to those that think Breitbart is still the same as it was.

[HonestJohn]

2016: Saying that all lives matter is considered offensive.

How the bleep is that ok?

Because, according to BLM, it fails to recognize that while that is the goal, it is not the current reality.

All lives currently don't matter to some cops.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Because, according to BLM, it fails to recognize that while that is the goal, it is not the current reality.

All lives matter should not be a controversial statement. That is beyond ridiculous.

[Wingnut]

Hell of a choice we are presented with folks:  An Unconvicted felon vs, The asshat.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

The alt-right is right about one thing: modern conservatism is behind the times, outmoded and ineffective. A bunch of old, irrelevant farts who lionize a man  who was President before many millennials were even born. Conservatism has to change with the times or it will be irrelevant.

[Cripplecreek]

Yea it was. There is a lot more writing from Milo...the hero of many alt right....and it isn't pretty.
This whole alt right movement in the GOP party is not pretty and why until they are driven out many will no longer support it.

Until the GOP openly and clearly rejects and denounces the alt right they are rejecting me. Its not hard to do. Ted Cruz gave a speech to people he found were antisemites. He didn't try to ignore it or adjust his speech to suit them. He stood on stage like a man and told them "If you won't stand with Israel, I won't stand with you.".

Instead it looks like the GOP is going to try to distract by saying "Look over there at Clinton", pretend the alt right doesn't actually exist, or feign surprise. Sean Hannity is claiming he never heard of them before Clinton's speech. I can understand how someone minimally engaged could miss them but Hannity is a pundit and only a fool would believe he doesn't know about people who have been around since at least 2008.

The worst part is the non racist Trump supporters who see the daily threats and racism on twitter only to keep their mouths shut. Nearly every single day I get threats of being sent to gas chambers, hanging, beheading etc and never once have I seen a non racist Trump supporter tell the alt right to tone it down or knock it off. They look the other way and pretend it doesn't happen.

[jedidah]

I hope you realize that was a white-wash (LOL) of the alt-right to make it seem okay to those that think Breitbart is still the same as it was.

Indeed.

And it's a glimpse into the mind of Bannon, who likely managed to bring the whole "alt-right" issue into the campaign.

Did you note that Trump had a pre-emptive talk ready before her big screed, in which he told his followers that Hillary was calling them racists?

It's entirely possible that Bannon set her up. Let's see how it plays out.

[beandog]

Donny calling that shriveled old bag a bigot is probably the best thing he has done thus far. She is a bigot as is most of the Rat party. About time someone called them out on the fact.

I agree.

[Cripplecreek]

I hate the talking point about an evil movement being right about something........  Others have referred to the example of the Nazis or whatever evil group or dictator, did have the trains run on time etc.

The alt-right is an attempt to legitimize racism and bigotry and it is trying to get into forums like this one as being acceptable when it is not.

PS Very importatnt...WTF None of my previous rant is directed at you in the slightest and I have nothing but respect for you. 

I've been recommending it for years but I really wish people would read "The Language of the 3rd Reich" by Victor Klemperer. In the book Klemperer details how the nazis manipulated the language as a means of manipulating the German people into accepting nazi ideals.

In the case of the alt right you see how they denounce modern conservatism as outdated and insult the memory of Reagan at every opportunity. They are progressives who seek "change" for the sake of change.

[Cripplecreek]

Great post.

This is a mild taste of what they infect my twitter timeline with every single day. On an average day I must block 25 of them and on particularly busy days I've blocked them by the hundreds.



Here is the scumbag's twitter page so you can see the kind of scum he runs with.

https://twitter.com/BobSandersWhat

[HonestJohn]

I've been recommending it for years but I really wish people would read "The Language of the 3rd Reich" by Victor Klemperer. In the book Klemperer details how the nazis manipulated the language as a means of manipulating the German people into accepting nazi ideals.

In the case of the alt right you see how they denounce modern conservatism as outdated and insult the memory of Reagan at every opportunity. They are progressives who seek "change" for the sake of change.

The language of the two are *VERY* similar.  The goes with how Trump, his campaign, and his supporters describe himself.

And their tolerance of dissent is much the same, as well.

[txradioguy]

When I first started responding to Trumps tweets I'd start getting Trumpkins spamming my feed...I'd check their profile and see they always had less than 500 posts no pics and no profile pic. I'd promptly block them. I did that about 10 times and stopped all the Trumpkin spam.

Funny how that worked.