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Trump is no conservative.


Trump also supported "Stimulus" but thought it should have been much bigger. We all know it was a huge waste of money and cvreated a lot of slush funds. He said Obama had "saved the economy" and "I'd hire him."

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So he's promised to put people back to work , he promised to help the middle class and poor, and then he embraces a minimum wage increase that will result in workers having their hours cut and jobs eliminated. A wage increase that will result in raising prices on goods and services, exactly how does that help the middle class and poor? And what about seniors living on fixed SS payments, how are they helped when prices rise? Brilliant strategy, there Trump, you're a real outsider, embracing an insider practice that will benefit for the most part only two groups, tax collectors and union members who have their wages automatically increased with a minimum wage increase, everyone else is either marginally benefited at best or much more likely,negatively impacted by resultant price increases. :huh?:

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tariffs and trade wars will be awesome for the second largest exporter on Earth, if you are insane you might believe it.

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Friends,

The next four or eight years are going to be the toughest years for those of us who call ourselves conservative. There is going to be a lot of work and fighting and successes and setbacks. You have the Progressives in the GOP. You have the Chavez socialists in the Democrat Party. We're going to be forced to fight harder than we ever have

But it's a fight worth having. And if the Progressive Nationalists/Populists decide the GOP is the vessel for their new "Nationalists Revolution," then it's truly time for conservatives to part ways with the GOP.

A little leavening, leavens the whole lump, so if we do not want our principles poisoned, then Conservatives must break free of an apostate party.

The scary thing to consider is the fact that there is no fixing tyranny via civil means, whether promoted by Communist/Progressives or Nationalist Socialist Populists. We have arrived at a point where those who love liberty and the principles that founded us can no longer co-exist with a majority of the population.

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Why, they'll all rush out and BUY stuff!  Which will mean there'll be MOAR JOBS!

That's what Henry Ford did.  Gee, when I was a kid, we were taught that the $3-a-day wage, and then the $5/day wage, was to stabilize the workforce and stop high turnover.  NO...HENRY FORD WAS A SOCIALIST; and he knew that if he paid them that money, everyone would be able to buy new Fords.

These are people who probably try to get free electricity by plugging extension cord ends together.

Excellent!  If they really wanted to get the economy rolling, they would raise the minimum wage to $100/hr!
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So increasing the cost of labor will create jobs how?

The same way 45% tariffs do DUH!
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What leftward shift will we see today?

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What leftward shift will we see today?

Almost 40 post in, and not one TBR Trump defender wants to comment.  Shocked I tell ya. /s

When will you Trumpets finally admit you've duped?  And that wall?  It'll be gone by October.
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Almost 40 post in, and not one TBR Trump defender wants to comment.  Shocked I tell ya. /s

When will you Trumpets finally admit you've duped?  And that wall?  It'll be gone by October.


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Did anyone catch the fact that Trump...as part of his ramblings about raising the minimum wage said "I know it's not very Republican to help"?
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Did anyone catch the fact that Trump...as part of his ramblings about raising the minimum wage said "I know it's not very Republican to help"?

Meanwhile the abused wife still "loves" him...

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He could adopt the Democrat platform as his own and they wouldn't care
Isn't that why his daughter spoke at the convention?

Are we sure this wasn't a joke? The Vichy Republicans backing Trump seem to be telling us everything Trump says today is a joke. Which is true, since his whole campaign is a joke.
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Did anyone catch the fact that Trump...as part of his ramblings about raising the minimum wage said "I know it's not very Republican to help"?


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Trump is playing three-dimensional chess here!  And....something about Sun Tzu, or....yeah...

BTW, no Trump supporters have showed up yet?   :pondering:
Trump's nth dimensional chess an awful lot like 3d stupidity. He's the pigeon on the chess board.
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Trump's nth dimensional chess an awful lot like 3d stupidity. He's the pigeon on the chess board.


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Almost 40 post in, and not one TBR Trump defender wants to comment.  Shocked I tell ya. /s

When will you Trumpets finally admit you've duped?  And that wall?  It'll be gone by October.

I'll help them out.

He was just joking.
It is going to happen anyway, it is best if Trump gets credit for it.
He is a master deal maker, the Democrats want 15, he is negotiating them down by throwing out 10.
He was taken out of context.
You are lying.
You are a poo poo head.
You just want Hillary to win by posting this.

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Meanwhile the abused wife still "loves" him...

And will still forgive his transgressions too...
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So he's promised to put people back to work , he promised to help the middle class and poor, and then he embraces a minimum wage increase that will result in workers having their hours cut and jobs eliminated. A wage increase that will result in raising prices on goods and services, exactly how does that help the middle class and poor? And what about seniors living on fixed SS payments, how are they helped when prices rise? Brilliant strategy, there Trump, you're a real outsider, embracing an insider practice that will benefit for the most part only two groups, tax collectors and union members who have their wages automatically increased with a minimum wage increase, everyone else is either marginally benefited at best or much more likely,negatively impacted by resultant price increases. :huh?:
Trump will handle the economy just like Obama. As the world crashes around him. He will issue proclamations, yuge proclamations, awesome proclamations; they will be the best proclamations. Trump really means that and thanks to his words we will win bigly. We will get back to work we will be tired of getting back to work. Like Obama these proclamations will feed the hungry and put people back to work. Like Obama, he will declare victory even if our rescission has more dips than a Baskin Robbins on a Saturday afternoon.
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I'll help them out.

He was just joking.
It is going to happen anyway, it is best if Trump gets credit for it.
He is a master deal maker, the Democrats want 15, he is negotiating them down by throwing out 10.
He was taken out of context.
You are lying.
You are a poo poo head.
You just want Hillary to win by posting this.

If the past is any indication, what they'll probably say is "once Trump talks to the right eople on this, he'll change his mind." Another is they believe the mission is to beat Hillary first, then hold his feet to the fire on conservative issues.

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@Frank Cannon

Trump is playing three-dimensional chess here!  And....something about Sun Tzu, or....yeah...

BTW, no Trump supporters have showed up yet?   :pondering:

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And the Art of the Deal. You just don't get it. They're playing T-ball and he's playing Stphanie Meyers' vampire baseball! Do I need the /sarc?

The mental gymnastics on TOS must be impressive right now attempting to justify this. I might lurk just to see how awesome the excuses are.
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So he's promised to put people back to work , he promised to help the middle class and poor, and then he embraces a minimum wage increase that will result in workers having their hours cut and jobs eliminated. A wage increase that will result in raising prices on goods and services, exactly how does that help the middle class and poor? And what about seniors living on fixed SS payments, how are they helped when prices rise? Brilliant strategy, there Trump, you're a real outsider, embracing an insider practice that will benefit for the most part only two groups, tax collectors and union members who have their wages automatically increased with a minimum wage increase, everyone else is either marginally benefited at best or much more likely,negatively impacted by resultant price increases.

FWIW, I went to the grocery store this morning.  Giant – a pretty big grocery store chain here in PA and in VA, DC, DE and MD.

In the front of the store was a display – “Coming Soon”

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Save time & money with SCAN IT®!

Save time

Scan and bag your groceries as you shop and sail through checkout – just pay and go.
Save money

Keep track of your total as you go, making it easier to stay on budget.
click here for a list of SCAN IT!® locations.

https://giantfood.com/shopping/shopping-tools/scanit/



The District of Columbia will raise its minimum wage from $11.00 to $11.50 and then again to $12.50 on December 31, 2017 and Maryland will raise its minimum wage from $8.50 to $8.75 and then again to $9.25 on December 31, 2017. And here in PA DemoRat governor Tom Wolf supports a $10.15 an hour minimum wage and is trying to push this legislation through.

Coincidence? I think not.

I have also noticed that both Giant and Weis Markets around here employ a lot of seniors and HS/college age kids as part-time cashiers and with them a fair number of disabled folks – Downs Syndrome, to do bagging and cart pick up, trash pickup, etc.  I am guessing these will be the first jobs to go.

My great niece is in grad school (getting her Masters) but had until recently been working part time at a local retail department store at the customer service counter to help her with school and living expenses. Her hours were cut back to under 10 hours a week and then a few weeks ago her job was eliminated completely. My great nephew who just graduated from HS had been working at a national office supply store and had the same thing happen to him – his hours were drastically cut back and then his job eliminated. Fortunately, he landed an entry level corporate IT support job but the company he just landed a job at, is also a retailer and is evidently laying off and closing stores, so who knows if his job is in jeopardy or not.











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FWIW, I went to the grocery store this morning.  Giant – a pretty big grocery store chain here in PA and in VA, DC, DE and MD.

In the front of the store was a display – “Coming Soon”

https://giantfood.com/shopping/shopping-tools/scanit/



The District of Columbia will raise its minimum wage from $11.00 to $11.50 and then again to $12.50 on December 31, 2017 and Maryland will raise its minimum wage from $8.50 to $8.75 and then again to $9.25 on December 31, 2017. And here in PA DemoRat governor Tom Wolf supports a $10.15 an hour minimum wage and is trying to push this legislation through.

Coincidence? I think not.

I have also noticed that both Giant and Weis Markets around here employ a lot of seniors and HS/college age kids as part-time cashiers and with them a fair number of disabled folks – Downs Syndrome, to do bagging and cart pick up, trash pickup, etc.  I am guessing these will be the first jobs to go.

My great niece is in grad school (getting her Masters) but had until recently been working part time at a local retail department store at the customer service counter to help her with school and living expenses. Her hours were cut back to under 10 hours a week and then a few weeks ago her job was eliminated completely. My great nephew who just graduated from HS had been working at a national office supply store and had the same thing happen to him – his hours were drastically cut back and then his job eliminated. Fortunately, he landed an entry level corporate IT support job but the company he just landed a job at, is also a retailer and is evidently laying off and closing stores, so who knows if his job is in jeopardy or not.

That is coincidence.  Giant has been installing those throughout the mid-atlantic.  To be honest, I thought all Giant's had those scan-it wands by now.

That said, most people don't use it.

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Meanwhile the abused wife still "loves" him...
Only there isn't going to be another 'honeymoon' phase.
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Only there isn't going to be another 'honeymoon' phase.

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