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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2016, 06:24:29 pm »
But Ted Cruz campaigned with Trump, so that says enough for the "real conservatives", Ted must not be one.
Maybe if Trump hadn't resorted to character assassination in the primary he'd have gotten more unity. Ted Cruz didn't seem to be averse to the idea until Trump starting lying about him.
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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2016, 06:24:53 pm »
Overkill by Trump in those personal attacks, Trump had basically won the nomination when he said those things.

Let's not forget, the two campaigned together, "My friend Donald".

Too bad, this thing went downhill.

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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2016, 06:28:57 pm »
Simple fact, if you are still supporting Cruz after he proved what Trump has said about him, live on TV, there is nothing that can help fix that problem. If you will not vote for the GOP ticket to help your fellow Americans stop Hilary there is something broken that cannot be fixed by anything anybody says.
What Cruz admitted that his Dad helped kill JFK. I missed that, do you have a link?
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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2016, 06:29:22 pm »
But Ted Cruz campaigned with Trump, so that says enough for the "real conservatives", Ted must not be one.

And the Donald invited the Clintons to his wedding and has repeatedly praised both of the Clintons as great people.  At least Sen. Cruz was only temporarily fooled by the orange Clown.  The Donald was, and in all likelihood still is, in love with the Clintons, as his wife and daughter.

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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2016, 06:31:29 pm »
Totally agree.....move on Trump..
Oh he's doing fine, just fine where he's at. I'm glad he finally showed his true colors. I figured he'd hold it together till October. I didn't expect an implosion on the launch pad.

There's a lesson in here for the Republican party and the conservative movement. Let's hope they learn it well.
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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2016, 06:34:00 pm »
Great to see Trump out on the trail after his huge bounce from the convention and attacking his opponent in the General election. Wait....what?!?! Donny isn't running agaibst Cruz for a Senate seat in TX but against Hitlary for President? Well......nevermind.

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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #56 on: July 22, 2016, 06:34:11 pm »
But Ted Cruz campaigned with Trump, so that says enough for the "real conservatives", Ted must not be one.

You seem to think it is significant that Cruz maintained a good relationship with Trump, and even campaigned with him, early in the primaries.

Cruz worked to maintain positive relationships with everyone throughout the primaries, focusing on his own principles rather than on the competitors themselves.  That is how a serious candidate maintains party unity.  Trump destroyed unity by making it personal when Cruz's poll numbers got ahead in Iowa, he made it more personal when Cruz won Iowa, and he insulted Cruz's family when Cruz continued to compete.  Unity is now completely destroyed, because of Trump's megalomania, not because of Cruz's ambition.

Cruz's attempts to maintain a positive relationship with Trump, and with the other candidates, early in the campaign do not diminish or indict him now.  They prove that he led toward party unity.  Trump has made clear on multiple occasions, through words and actions,  that he does not care about party unity.  To the extent that others do, they should look to their chosen leader, who destroyed that unity, to take the necessary steps now to repair it.  Perhaps by learning from the example Cruz set early in the campaign.
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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #57 on: July 22, 2016, 06:45:25 pm »
You seem to think it is significant that Cruz maintained a good relationship with Trump, and even campaigned with him, early in the primaries.

Cruz worked to maintain positive relationships with everyone throughout the primaries, focusing on his own principles rather than on the competitors themselves.  That is how a serious candidate maintains party unity.  Trump destroyed unity by making it personal when Cruz's poll numbers got ahead in Iowa, he made it more personal when Cruz won Iowa, and he insulted Cruz's family when Cruz continued to compete.  Unity is now completely destroyed, because of Trump's megalomania, not because of Cruz's ambition.

Cruz's attempts to maintain a positive relationship with Trump, and with the other candidates, early in the campaign do not diminish or indict him now.  They prove that he led toward party unity.  Trump has made clear on multiple occasions, through words and actions,  that he does not care about party unity.  To the extent that others do, they should look to their chosen leader, who destroyed that unity, to take the necessary steps now to repair it.  Perhaps by learning from the example Cruz set early in the campaign.
Very true and Trump continues to act as if he views Cruz's principles as his greatest threat.
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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #58 on: July 22, 2016, 06:47:05 pm »
You seem to think it is significant that Cruz maintained a good relationship with Trump, and even campaigned with him, early in the primaries.

Cruz's attempts to maintain a positive relationship with Trump, and with the other candidates, early in the campaign do not diminish or indict him now.  They prove that he led toward party unity.  Trump has made clear on multiple occasions, through words and actions,  that he does not care about party unity.  To the extent that others do, they should look to their chosen leader, who destroyed that unity, to take the necessary steps now to repair it.  Perhaps by learning from the example Cruz set early in the campaign.

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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2016, 06:48:06 pm »

Where have we heard that before. :whistle:
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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #60 on: July 22, 2016, 06:48:41 pm »
And the Donald invited the Clintons to his wedding and has repeatedly praised both of the Clintons as great people.  At least Sen. Cruz was only temporarily fooled by the orange Clown.  The Donald was, and in all likelihood still is, in love with the Clintons, as his wife and daughter.

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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #61 on: July 22, 2016, 07:05:49 pm »
You seem to think it is significant that Cruz maintained a good relationship with Trump, and even campaigned with him, early in the primaries.

Cruz worked to maintain positive relationships with everyone throughout the primaries, focusing on his own principles rather than on the competitors themselves.  That is how a serious candidate maintains party unity.  Trump destroyed unity by making it personal when Cruz's poll numbers got ahead in Iowa, he made it more personal when Cruz won Iowa, and he insulted Cruz's family when Cruz continued to compete.  Unity is now completely destroyed, because of Trump's megalomania, not because of Cruz's ambition.

Cruz's attempts to maintain a positive relationship with Trump, and with the other candidates, early in the campaign do not diminish or indict him now.  They prove that he led toward party unity.  Trump has made clear on multiple occasions, through words and actions,  that he does not care about party unity.  To the extent that others do, they should look to their chosen leader, who destroyed that unity, to take the necessary steps now to repair it.  Perhaps by learning from the example Cruz set early in the campaign.

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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #62 on: July 22, 2016, 07:20:17 pm »
Trump is doing damage control with the future votes of women and Cruz voters. He views Cruz as actively using his temporary spotlight with the media to undermine Trump and so he came out to set the record straight. He now views Cruz as an active enemy.

Nope.  Trump declared war on Cruz conservatives today  He is toast.
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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #63 on: July 22, 2016, 07:20:55 pm »
Simple fact, if you are still supporting Cruz after he proved what Trump has said about him, live on TV, there is nothing that can help fix that problem. If you will not vote for the GOP ticket to help your fellow Americans stop Hilary there is something broken that cannot be fixed by anything anybody says.

"GOP ticket"?  That's become one of those relative kinda things.

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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #64 on: July 22, 2016, 07:21:24 pm »
Trump was on full frontal display this morning  as the vindictive amoral tyrant he is. What disaster 40% of the primary voters have brought on us.

Trump sure does make voting your conscious easy!

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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #65 on: July 22, 2016, 07:31:30 pm »
You seem to think it is significant that Cruz maintained a good relationship with Trump, and even campaigned with him, early in the primaries.

Cruz worked to maintain positive relationships with everyone throughout the primaries, focusing on his own principles rather than on the competitors themselves.  That is how a serious candidate maintains party unity.  Trump destroyed unity by making it personal when Cruz's poll numbers got ahead in Iowa, he made it more personal when Cruz won Iowa, and he insulted Cruz's family when Cruz continued to compete.  Unity is now completely destroyed, because of Trump's megalomania, not because of Cruz's ambition.

Cruz's attempts to maintain a positive relationship with Trump, and with the other candidates, early in the campaign do not diminish or indict him now.  They prove that he led toward party unity.  Trump has made clear on multiple occasions, through words and actions,  that he does not care about party unity.  To the extent that others do, they should look to their chosen leader, who destroyed that unity, to take the necessary steps now to repair it.  Perhaps by learning from the example Cruz set early in the campaign.

THAT is a fine post.

Trump continued to destroy party unity this morning, when there was no good reason in the world to, proving either a) he still doesn't understand how to be a leader, or b) he does not intend to win in November.
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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #66 on: July 22, 2016, 07:34:45 pm »
Nope.  Trump declared war on Cruz conservatives today  He is toast.
By the time this is over he'll be threatening to bite our knee caps. He seems to be shooting his own limbs off at an alarming rate.
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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #67 on: July 22, 2016, 07:39:33 pm »
So Donald Trump can write off Ted Cruz. As well as all the Cruzers who would normally vote for the Republican.

OK fine. I get this.

But why? Why can't the Trumpanzees on this site (as well as TOS) understand this? They keep yammering like Chihuahuas that unless we vote for trump - then we are essentially voting for Hillary.

Yes, we yammer about it because its true. Trump wrote off Cruz, not all of his supporters...MANY of whom have already come over to support him. But yes, a 2-3% difference could decide the election, and if that portion is roughly equivalent to Nevertrumps who vote Hillary or don't vote...than they bear the burden of Hillary winning. That's not a moral call, its simple mathematics.
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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #68 on: July 22, 2016, 07:45:28 pm »
Yes, we yammer about it because its true. Trump wrote off Cruz, not all of his supporters...MANY of whom have already come over to support him. But yes, a 2-3% difference could decide the election, and if that portion is roughly equivalent to Nevertrumps who vote Hillary or don't vote...than they bear the burden of Hillary winning. That's not a moral call, its simple mathematics.

If Trump loses it will be because he is an amoral, unstable pretender & social buffoon.

Actually, we tried to tell you. If he loses you ought to apologize to us.

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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #69 on: July 22, 2016, 07:47:29 pm »
THAT is a fine post.

Trump continued to destroy party unity this morning, when there was no good reason in the world to, proving either a) he still doesn't understand how to be a leader, or b) he does not intend to win in November.

Thank you @skeeter and @austingirl for your kind encouragement.  The poster to whom my thoughts were addressed has not responded.
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« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2016, 07:50:46 pm »
...than they bear the burden of Hillary winning.

Trump is the only one who bears the burden. He is the one who is supposed to differentiate himself from Hillary, but he cannot.

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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #71 on: July 22, 2016, 08:18:45 pm »
But Ted Cruz campaigned with Trump, so that says enough for the "real conservatives", Ted must not be one.

I got to thinking more about this when I was out doing things.  Sen. Cruz did not "campaign" with the Donald.  By saying that you are implying that Sen. Cruz supported the Donald running for something, which he never has.  Besides I can 100% guarantee that Sen. Cruz never supported, voted for or donated money to any demonrat, unlike the Donald.  On top of that, unlike the Donald, Sen. Cruz has never donated or supported Planned Parenthood.

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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #72 on: July 22, 2016, 08:19:53 pm »
Trump is the only one who bears the burden. He is the one who is supposed to differentiate himself from Hillary, but he cannot.

Unlike you, I also place the burden and blame on his supporters.

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« Reply #73 on: July 22, 2016, 08:24:49 pm »
Yes, we yammer about it because its true. Trump wrote off Cruz, not all of his supporters...MANY of whom have already come over to support him. But yes, a 2-3% difference could decide the election, and if that portion is roughly equivalent to Nevertrumps who vote Hillary or don't vote...than they bear the burden of Hillary winning. That's not a moral call, its simple mathematics.

LOGIC FAIL. If Trump has no use for Cruz and his endorsement - then he has no use for Cruzers.

Trump realizes this. That's why he sucked up to Bernie voters in his speech. That's why he acknowledged he didn't deserve the evangelical voter support.

Look. Trump has kicked conservatives to the curb. So how Trumpanzees can continue to beg for our support is beyond belief.

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Re: Donald Trump 'Will Not Accept' even If Ted Cruz Endorses Him
« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2016, 10:37:33 pm »
Yes, we yammer about it because its true. Trump wrote off Cruz, not all of his supporters...MANY of whom have already come over to support him. But yes, a 2-3% difference could decide the election, and if that portion is roughly equivalent to Nevertrumps who vote Hillary or don't vote...than they bear the burden of Hillary winning. That's not a moral call, its simple mathematics.

Wrong, as usual.  If Trump wrote off Cruz, he wrote off me (and most of the rest of us principled conservatives).  I stand with Ted.  We won't vote for Hillary, who is just as bad as Trump, but for Johnson or Castle or someone else.  But Trump has lost our votes with his petty vindictiveness.  And in the process he's probably destroyed the GOP permanently.  I'm sure you're happy about trying to convert principled conservatism into hero-worshipping authoritarianism, but we won't follow you into the morass of Trump worship.
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