Mike Lee, tea party senator, may help decide Trump’s fate at convention

[txradioguy]

Meh....that's simply a message to the American People that he's not the Boogeyman and he'll try to work with anybody.   That creates more and more Trump Democrats.

And what message is that?  What positive message about freedom and Liberty is he telling the masses?

What is he doing to contrast himself against Hillary to the voters?

What has Trump affirmatively done or said to inspire people to vote for him? 

Especially those on the fence.

[DCPatriot]

Why? Because several of your Trump supporting brethren continue to make that claim against anyone who doesn't support Donny.

I don't want @mystery-ak to lock the thread, @txradioguy   

[catfish1957]

And what message is that?  What positive message about freedom and Liberty is he telling the masses?

What is he doing to contrast himself against Hillary to the voters?

What has Trump affirmatively done or said to inspire people to vote for him? 

Especially those on the fence.

Amen....    I for one see this tug toward the center as the start of our destruction.

[GrouchoTex]

Amen....    I for one see this tug toward the center as the start of our destruction.

Someone earlier said the the center now is Left of LBJ.
I'd agree with that.

[Bigun]

Someone earlier said the the center now is Left of LBJ.
I'd agree with that.

So would I  and would argue that if we don't fix that soon nothing else will matter.

[txradioguy]

Meh....that's simply a message to the American People that he's not the Boogeyman and he'll try to work with anybody.   That creates more and more Trump Democrats. 

Trump should make a public plea to Trump Democrats that plan on voting for him...to go "all in" and vote straight GOP ticket.   Give him all the tools he needs to do what's necessary and what's the best for the country.

And if he screws it up....a phony economic crisis caused by the Federal Reserve, aside.....he'll have to accept full responsibility.

And I'm on record here that 2020 will be a landslide in Trump's favor...will mirror Reagan's 1984 victory.

There is not one thing you can point to with a shred of credibility that backs up this fairytale you just wrote.

And when you're wrong and Trump is crushed like a beer can in November...are you going to admit you were wrong...or just look for a scapegoat and avoid any responsibility for your part in the GOP's defeat?

[txradioguy]

So would I  and would argue that if we don't fix that soon nothing else will matter.

For some its too late already. They've cast their lot with the 2016 GOP version of Obama.

[DCPatriot]

There is not one thing you can point to with a shred of credibility that backs up this fairytale you just wrote.

And when you're wrong and Trump is crushed like a beer can in November...are you going to admit you were wrong...or just look for a scapegoat and avoid any responsibility for your part in the GOP's defeat?

Hmmm....looking around, I'm batting 1.000, while you're still looking for your first hit.   

[txradioguy]

Hmmm....looking around, I'm batting 1.000, while you're still looking for your first hit.   

If you want to use that analogy...

Trump is too scared to step into the batters box and actually swing at anything pitched at him.

And Lord knows he's been tossed some fat pitches to hit out of the park.

Easy to maintain a perfect batting record if you're scared to commit.

[musiclady]

But you're right ....nobody in here is a Hillary Supporter.   Why should that even have to be stated?

Ummmm............ then why did you tattle on me when I accused wolfcreek of lying when he kept saying that I supported Hillary?

That was just yesterday, my friend.  Memory starting to fail you in your old age??   

[DCPatriot]

If you want to use that analogy...

Trump is too scared to step into the batters box and actually swing at anything pitched at him.

And Lord knows he's been tossed some fat pitches to hit out of the park.

Easy to maintain a perfect batting record if you're scared to commit.

Typical strawman/deflection.

I was responding to you saying I had no credibility to make such predictions. 

Between the two of us, my statement stands.   You haven't been right about one single thing.

And we're at the All-Star Break.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

Re-posting...this goes for everyone!...I consider this a personal attack as it is a lie!

Quote from: mystery-ak on July 12, 2016, 09:20:04 PM
Please stop inferring that people here who don't vote Trump are electing Hillary or Hillary Supporters...I am tired of you posting that on every thread that you can....enough already!

Is it permitted under this rule to point out the mathematical consequences of voting for someone other than Trump for POTUS?

Thanks.

@mystery-ak
@Repub4Trump

[Sanguine]

Is it permitted under this rule to point out the mathematical consequences of voting for someone other than Trump for POTUS?

Thanks.

@mystery-ak
@Repub4Trump

Why? 

[aligncare]

It's obvious on its face, if you don't vote for Donald Trump you're helping his opponent(s).

Just as if you don't vote for Hillary Clinton you're helping her opponent(s).

Myst, did you mean to say no one here supports Hillary Clinton for president?  ...because that would be a true statement. (Well, except for that one guy..)

[roamer_1]

It's obvious on its face, if you don't vote for Donald Trump you're helping his opponent(s).
Just as if you don't vote for Hillary Clinton you're helping her opponent(s).

Nonsense. The only one you 'help' is the one you actually vote *for*. That I will vote for castle gives HIM another vote, and does nothing to Clinton or Trump's columns.

Mathematics is not your friend in this argument... Unless you assume the vote to be taken from Trump - In which case you would be wrong. My vote was never going to go to Trump.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Why?

I think it's essential for each of us to understand this.  Don't you?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Nonsense. The only one you 'help' is the one you actually vote *for*. That I will vote for castle gives HIM another vote, and does nothing to Clinton or Trump's columns.

Ah, ... see, this is wrong.  And I repeat, understanding the mathematical consequences of our votes is essential. 

Perhaps a thread just on this is in order?   

@aligncare
@roamer_1

[DCPatriot]

Nonsense. The only one you 'help' is the one you actually vote *for*. That I will vote for castle gives HIM another vote, and does nothing to Clinton or Trump's columns.

Mathematics is not your friend in this argument... Unless you assume the vote to be taken from Trump - In which case you would be wrong. My vote was never going to go to Trump.

Whose mathematics is suspect here?

A withheld vote for Trump equals one less vote Hillary needs to win.

[roamer_1]

Ah, ... see, this is wrong.  And I repeat, understanding the mathematical consequences of our votes is essential. 

No, it's not. And not that it would matter if it was, because as I said, my vote was not Trump's to begin with, nor will it ever be Trump's.

Perhaps a thread just on this is in order?   

Knock yourself out.

[EasyAce]

It's obvious on its face, if you don't vote for Donald Trump you're helping his opponent(s).

Just as if you don't vote for Hillary Clinton you're helping her opponent(s).

Then, logically, if you don't vote for either (a "none of the above" vote, which some states including
mine allow, and which I plan to exercise come November, if the finalised choice for the White House
turns out to be nothing better than between the crank and the crook), you're helping nobody. And
since neither Donaldus Minimus nor Hilarious Rodent Clinton indicates any desire to arrest and
begin pushing back the metastasis of statism, I for one am not about to give either one of them
my help, minimal though it be.

Myst, did you mean to say no one here supports Hillary Clinton for president?  ...because that would be a true statement. (Well, except for that one guy..)

I don't think anyone ever accused you of saying anyone here really supports Hilarious Rodent Clinton
for president, and you've had some rip-roaring debates with other opponents of Donaldus Minimus.
Your reasonableness should be applauded.

[roamer_1]

A withheld vote for Trump equals one less vote Hillary needs to win.

There ya go, assuming the vote was Trump's to begin with... That is the only way it could be withheld (taken away) from him.

[mystery-ak]

Let's see 3 out of the *gang of 5* are here questioning me...where is Mesa..I know where Mech is..getting talking points from FR...someone better email R as it is about to hit the fan here.

[Sanguine]

I think it's essential for each of us to understand this.  Don't you?

And, you feel that you have some special insight that the not-trumpers amongst us don't have?  Or that we haven't heard you and your compatriots express that hundreds of times already?

Do you really believe that?

[EasyAce]

Let's see 3 out of the *gang of 5* are here questioning me...

The Gang of Five . . . I like that!