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Florida Pulse gay nightclub attacked in Orlando

A shooting has been reported at a nightclub in the Florida city of Orlando, and the attacker is said to have taken hostages.

The incident happened at the Pulse Club, a gay nightclub in the city. It posted on its Facebook page: "Everyone get out of pulse and keep running".

Video footage being shared on social media showed wounded people being treated at the scene.

No official details of the incident have yet been given.

One man who says he was inside the club at the time and posted videos of the scene, said on his Facebook page that shots had been fired inside the club and people were "screaming that people are dead".

Read More At: http://www.bbc.com/news/36510272

They make it sound really serious reporting that hostages were taken as well.   CNN saying injuries so far.
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They make it sound really serious reporting that hostages were taken as well.   CNN saying injuries so far.
The presser seems to indicate there is a probability of terrorism.
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CBS/AP June 12, 2016, 4:41 AM
"Around 20" dead in "domestic terror incident" at gay bar

Last Updated Jun 12, 2016 7:36 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. - A shooting and hostage situation early Sunday morning at a Florida nightclub -- which describes itself as "Orlando's hottest gay bar" -- left multiple people dead, including the gunman, officials say.

Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer said "many lives were lost and many more individuals were impacted by witnessing" the shootout and hostage situation.

Orlando Police chief John Mina said "around 20" people are believed dead inside the nightclub, although he and others were hesitant to provide firm numbers as the situation was still being assessed early Sunday morning.

Witnesses tell CBS affiliate WKMG as well as other local news outlets that there are numerous fatalities. Police have so far only confirmed that the gunman is dead.

Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings described the situation as a "domestic terror incident," although he and other officials insisted there was no ongoing threat.

Mina said the incident at Pulse nightclub began around 2:20 a.m., when shots rang out and an officer already posted at the event engaged the gunman, whom Mina said was armed with an assault rifle, a handgun, and a "device" of some kind that officials believed was a threat.

Pulse Orlando posted on its own Facebook page around 2 a.m.: "Everyone get out of pulse and keep running." Just before 6 a.m., the club posted an update: "As soon as we have any information we will update everyone. Please keep everyone in your prayers as we work through this tragic event. Thank you for your thoughts and love."

After the officer already there engaged the gunman, other law enforcement agencies and officials responded, and the gunman retreated into the nightclub and began a "hostage situation," Mina said.

SWAT officer eventually made the decision to attempt to rescue the hostages, and entered the club, where nine officers were involved in the fatal shooting of the gunman, Mina said. One officer was injured, and Mina said he believes the officer's life was probably saved by his Kevlar helmet.  ...

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This can't be.  Islam is "the religion of peace," understanding, and tolerance for their fellow humans - at least according to Imam Obama. :peeonobama: It must have been workplace violence, not terrorism.
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Early reports.

Man is "not a US citizen". Has a history of making terror threats. Is Muslim.
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JUST IN: Orlando nightclub shooter ID'd as Omar S. Mateen, law enforcement sources tell @CBSNews http://cbsn.ws/24JpYX7

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CBS News ?@CBSNews 6m6 minutes ago

MORE: Orlando shooter ID'd as Omar Mateen, U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie, FL http://cbsn.ws/1PU8x4x
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From USA TODAY.

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When asked whether the shooter had ties to a Jihadist terror group, an FBI official said during a news conference that "we do have suggestions that that individual may have leanings toward that, that particular ideology. But right now we can't say definitively so we're still running everything around."
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html

Suspected Islamic extremist shoots dead at least 20 at Florida gay club after bursting in 'wearing a suicide vest' and taking hostages - injuring a further 42 - before he is killed in shootout

    Suspected Islamic extremist opened fire inside Pulse gay club in Orlando in the early hours of this morning
    He shot more than 40 people - killing about 20 - and took party-goers hostage before being killed by police
    Shooter, believed to be in his 20s, was carrying a suspicious device, possibly a suicide vest, when he attacked
    Police used an explosive device to distract the gunman and rescue around 30 people who had been taken hostage
    Police engaged in gunfire with the man and an officer was shot in the head, but he was saved by his helmet
    FBI says gunman may have 'leanings to radical Islamic terrorism' and it is being investigated as 'an act of terrorism'
    Took place four miles from where The Voice singer Christina Grimmie, 22, was shot dead at The Plaza Live on Friday

By Matt Hunter For Mailonline and Jenny Stanton For Dailymail.com

Published: 03:08 EST, 12 June 2016 | Updated: 08:01 EST, 12 June 2016

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JUST IN: Orlando nightclub shooter ID'd as Omar S. Mateen, law enforcement sources tell @CBSNews http://cbsn.ws/24JpYX7

Subsequent tweet:
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MORE: Orlando shooter ID'd as Omar Mateen, U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie, FL http://cbsn.ws/1PU8x4x

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« Last Edit: June 12, 2016, 09:27:08 AM by Luis Gonzalez »
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It appears that the local SWAT team saved innumerable lives by storming the gunman with flash-bangs and an armored vehicle and shooting him dead.  As bad as this is, it could have been a lot worse had police hesitated.

Lets see where this goes...

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It appears that the local SWAT team saved innumerable lives by storming the gunman with flash-bangs and an armored vehicle and shooting him dead.  As bad as this is, it could have been a lot worse had police hesitated.

Lets see where this goes...

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It appears they waited 3 hours before going in. Early reports, so can't say if those reports are accurate.
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...and demands to institute a temporary moratorium on Muslim refugees. But that would require the administration to muster the courage, or even the inclination, to protect America and Americans of every demographic.

US citizen.  Not a refugee.
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The Washington Post and New York Times BOTH omitted the FACT that it is Islamic Terrorism.

Newt Gringrich...just a few moments ago on FOXNEWS Sunday, said, paraphrased....

"The media is dishonest. The American People know the media lie about everything....the state of the world, the state of our economy, who's benefiting in DC from the trade deals.   It's exactly why Donald Trump is favored".

Well, we know for certain that Trump and his team will dance in the blood the minute they get the opportunity.
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Well, we know for certain that Trump and his team will dance in the blood the minute they get the opportunity.
We know no such thing.
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Well, we know for certain that Trump and his team will dance in the blood the minute they get the opportunity.

This thread has NOTHING to do with Trump...please keep it that way!
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Please - let's stick to the subject and not drag the presidential race into this thread.

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The Washington Post and New York Times BOTH omitted the FACT that it is Islamic Terrorism.

Newt Gringrich...just a few moments ago on FOXNEWS Sunday, said, paraphrased....

"The media is dishonest. The American People know the media lie about everything....the state of the world, the state of our economy, who's benefiting in DC from the trade deals.   It's exactly why Donald Trump is favored".

.....And YOU omitted Newt's actually saying..."It's exactly why Trump and Sanders are favored"......

Nice try though to push Trump, but some listen more than others I suppose.
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