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« Reply #300 on: November 22, 2018, 05:42:23 pm »
I have an account there but find the site too hard to navigate. Much prefer Ancestry or Family Search.


I understand what you mean, but I like the SmartMatch feature they have.
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« Reply #301 on: January 21, 2019, 03:26:10 am »
Twins get some 'mystifying' results when they put 5 DNA ancestry kits to the test
 
Chief geneticist at a popular ancestry company admits it's 'kind of a science and an art'

Charlsie Agro, Luke Denne · CBC News · Posted: Jan 18, 2019 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: January 18

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One set of identical twins, two different ancestry profiles.
At least that's the suggestion from one of the world's largest ancestry DNA testing companies.
Last spring, Marketplace host Charlsie Agro and her twin sister, Carly, bought home kits from AncestryDNA, MyHeritage, 23andMe, FamilyTreeDNA and Living DNA, and mailed samples of their DNA to each company for analysis.

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My sister and I have considered this for awhile. My results from two compnies. My mother and her, with Ancestry.

Anyway this article hints at the answer; the origin redictions, are subject to several variables, not the least of which is it id fairly new science.


One company I tested with is "Living DNA," a British-centric firm. To them most everything is British.

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« Reply #302 on: January 21, 2019, 03:47:00 am »
Twins get some 'mystifying' results when they put 5 DNA ancestry kits to the test
 
Chief geneticist at a popular ancestry company admits it's 'kind of a science and an art'

Charlsie Agro, Luke Denne · CBC News · Posted: Jan 18, 2019 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: January 18

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One set of identical twins, two different ancestry profiles.
At least that's the suggestion from one of the world's largest ancestry DNA testing companies.
Last spring, Marketplace host Charlsie Agro and her twin sister, Carly, bought home kits from AncestryDNA, MyHeritage, 23andMe, FamilyTreeDNA and Living DNA, and mailed samples of their DNA to each company for analysis.

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My sister and I have considered this for awhile. My results from two compnies. My mother and her, with Ancestry.

Anyway this article hints at the answer; the origin redictions, are subject to several variables, not the least of which is it id fairly new science.


One company I tested with is "Living DNA," a British-centric firm. To them most everything is British.
Link, please? I'd like to read the whole thing.
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« Reply #303 on: April 28, 2019, 10:04:01 pm »
Well I just took the Ancestry DNA test. I'll let you know in a few weeks when I get the results.
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« Reply #304 on: April 28, 2019, 10:07:54 pm »
I've been going nuts on ancestry lately,  and just learned yesterday my 8x great grandmother was executed in Salem,  Mass., in 1692 after her conviction on witchcraft charges! Yikes.
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« Reply #305 on: April 28, 2019, 10:54:35 pm »
Two people in this month told me to go to 23 and me.

I still think for me it’s a bad idea. Why open a box I shouldn’t open!
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« Reply #306 on: April 28, 2019, 11:08:53 pm »
I had my DNA tested at Family Tree. In addition to the Autosomal test I also had the Y-DNA test. Now on the Y-DNA test results, three men were identified as a very close match to me. The closest common ancestor was estimated to live sometime around the 1600s. What is most interesting is that we all have different last names. That common ancestor sure did get around.

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« Reply #307 on: April 28, 2019, 11:23:12 pm »
I've been going nuts on ancestry lately,  and just learned yesterday my 8x great grandmother was executed in Salem,  Mass., in 1692 after her conviction on witchcraft charges! Yikes.

Years ago I spent too much time on Ancestry.  One of my ancestors I discovered was my 29th great grandmother, (Lady) Godiva, Countess of Mercia.

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« Reply #308 on: April 30, 2019, 12:26:31 pm »
Italians try to crack Leonardo da Vinci DNA code with lock of hair

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2019/apr/29/italy-leonardo-da-vinci-dna-lock-of-artists-hair-test-remains-french-grave

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Hair tagged as polymath’s in US collection to be tested against remains in French grave

Two Italian experts are set to perform a DNA test on a lock of hair that they say might have belonged to Leonardo da Vinci.

The hair strand was found in a private collection in the US and will go on display for the first time at the Ideale Leonardo da Vinci museum in Vinci (the Tuscan town where the artist was born), from 2 May, the 500th anniversary of the artist’s death.

“We found, across the Atlantic, a lock of hair historically tagged ‘Les Cheveux de Leonardo da Vinci’ and this extraordinary relic will allow us to proceed in the quest to carry out research on Da Vinci’s DNA,” said Alessandro Vezzosi, the director of the museum and Agnese Sabato, president of the Leonardo da Vinci Heritage Foundation in a statement.

The lock will also be presented at a press conference at Leonardiana library in Vinci on Thursday as year-long celebrations get underway in Italy, France and elsewhere to commemorate the artist.

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« Reply #309 on: April 30, 2019, 04:51:59 pm »
Years ago I spent too much time on Ancestry.  One of my ancestors I discovered was my 29th great grandmother, (Lady) Godiva, Countess of Mercia.

Dig enough and you'll never know who you'll come across.

That is incredibly neat.
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« Reply #310 on: April 30, 2019, 06:21:53 pm »
I await the news release, when a major DNA entity announces the Neanderthal content for particular Haplogroups.

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-heidelbergensis

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« Reply #311 on: April 30, 2019, 06:45:36 pm »
A few years back I found this site, with interesting content. Haplogroups, maps, etc.

They have a mobile app as well. As with most sites, a small number of "experts" seem todominate the volume of activity.

Eupedia

https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/
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« Reply #312 on: April 30, 2019, 06:57:54 pm »
I await the news release, when a major DNA entity announces the Neanderthal content for particular Haplogroups.

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-heidelbergensis

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Neanderthal Report Basics

The Neanderthal Ancestry report provides information about how much of your ancestry can be traced back to the Neanderthals. The analysis includes the review of over 2,000 genetic variants of known Neanderthal origin that are scattered across the genome.

Neanderthals were a group of ancient humans who lived in Europe and Western Asia, and are the closest evolutionary relatives of modern humans. They went extinct about 40,000 years ago, after living alongside modern humans - Homo sapiens - for thousands of years. As a result, evidence of Neanderthal DNA is now found in traces in nearly all modern humans.

With the Neanderthal Ancestry report, you can view the amount of Neanderthal variants you have compared to all 23andMe customers worldwide.

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« Reply #313 on: April 30, 2019, 07:11:35 pm »
Y chromosome genes from Neanderthals likely extinct in modern men

http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2016/04/modern-men-lack-y-chromosome-genes-from-neanderthals.html

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The Neanderthal counterpart of the human Y chromosome, or male sex chromosome, appears to have died out. Why this happened is up for debate.

Although it’s widely known that modern humans carry traces of Neanderthal DNA, a new international study led by researchers at the Stanford University School of Medicine suggests that Neanderthal Y-chromosome genes disappeared from the human genome long ago.

The study was published April 7 in The American Journal of Human Genetics, in English and in Spanish, and will be available to view for free. The senior author is Carlos Bustamante, PhD, professor of biomedical data science and of genetics at the School of Medicine, and the lead author is Fernando Mendez, PhD, a postdoctoral scholar at Stanford.

The Y chromosome is one of two human sex chromosomes. Unlike the X chromosome, the Y chromosome is passed exclusively from father to son. This is the first study to examine a Neanderthal Y chromosome, Mendez said. Previous studies sequenced DNA from the fossils of Neanderthal women or from mitochondrial DNA, which is passed to children of either sex from their mother.

Other research has shown that the DNA of modern humans is from 2.5 to 4 percent Neanderthal DNA, a legacy of breeding between modern humans and Neanderthals 50,000 years ago. As a result, the team was excited to find that, unlike other kinds of DNA, the Neanderthal Y chromosome DNA was apparently not passed to modern humans during this time.

“We’ve never observed the Neanderthal Y chromosome DNA in any human sample ever tested,” Bustamante said. “That doesn’t prove it’s totally extinct, but it likely is.”

Why no Neanderthal DNA?

Why is not yet clear. The Neanderthal Y chromosome genes could have simply drifted out of the human gene pool by chance over the millennia. Another possibility, said Mendez, is that Neanderthal Y chromosomes include genes that are incompatible with other human genes, and he and his colleagues have found evidence supporting this idea. Indeed, one of the Y chromosome genes that differ in Neanderthals has previously been implicated in transplant rejection when males donate organs to women.

“The functional nature of the mutations we found,” said Bustamante, “suggests to us that Neanderthal Y chromosome sequences may have played a role in barriers to gene flow, but we need to do experiments to demonstrate this and are working to plan these now.”

Several Neanderthal Y chromosome genes that differ from those in humans function as part of the immune system. Three are "minor histocompatibility antigens," or H-Y genes, which resemble the HLA antigens that transplant surgeons check to make sure that organ donors and organ recipients have similar immune profiles. Because these Neanderthal antigen genes are on the Y chromosome, they are specific to males.

Theoretically, said Mendez, a woman’s immune system might attack a male fetus carrying Neanderthal H-Y genes. If women consistently miscarried male babies carrying Neanderthal Y chromosomes, that would explain its absence in modern humans. So far this is just a hypothesis, but the immune systems of modern women are known to sometimes react to male offspring when there’s genetic incompatibility.

When did we part ways?

The Y chromosome data also shed new light on the timeline for the divergence of humans and Neanderthals. The human lineage diverged from other apes over several million years, ending as late as 4 million years ago. After the final split from other apes, the human lineage branched into a series of different types of humans, including separate lineages for Neanderthals and what are now modern humans.

Previous estimates based on mitochondrial DNA put the divergence of the human and Neanderthal lineages at between 400,000 and 800,000 years ago. The last common ancestor of Neanderthals and humans — based on the Y chromosome DNA sequenced in the study — is about 550,000 years ago. Scientists believe Neanderthals died out about 40,000 years ago.

Sequencing the Neanderthal Y chromosome may shed further light on the relationship between humans and Neanderthals. One challenge for the research team is to find out whether the Y chromosome Neanderthal gene variants identified were indeed incompatible with human genes.

The data for the study came from public gene sequencing databases. "We did not collect any data for this work," said Mendez. "It was all public data."

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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #315 on: April 30, 2019, 07:34:57 pm »
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« Reply #316 on: May 03, 2019, 07:55:44 am »
Years ago I spent too much time on Ancestry.  One of my ancestors I discovered was my 29th great grandmother, (Lady) Godiva, Countess of Mercia.

Dig enough and you'll never know who you'll come across.
We may well be (distantly) related.
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« Reply #317 on: May 21, 2019, 03:49:38 pm »
DNA test proves former care worker is entitled to £50m country estate

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/21/dna-test-proves-former-care-worker-entitled-50m-country-estate-cornwall



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A former care worker has inherited a £50m country estate after a DNA test proved he was the son of its deceased owner.

Jordan Adlard Rogers, 31, found out his father was the aristocrat Charles Rogers after his death in 2018 and has now moved into the 1,536-acre Penrose estate in Cornwall, which his family has lived in for generations.

“I’m not going to forget where I’ve come from,” Adlard Rogers told CornwallLive. “I’ve been at the point of worrying about the next bill and have had a tough start in life but now I’m here I want to help people.”

He said he planned to set up a charity to help people living in nearby Porthleven and Helston.

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« Reply #318 on: May 27, 2019, 05:29:43 pm »
Here is a SNP Tracker tool: http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html

Here is the output when I input my Haplogroup, R-BY88844.



I have no idea how accurate it is.


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« Reply #319 on: May 27, 2019, 07:05:25 pm »
Well roughly June 10th I will find out my DNA results from Ancestry.
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« Reply #320 on: May 27, 2019, 07:46:13 pm »
I have no idea how accurate it is.

If you have your DNA raw data, you can upload it to GedMatch, and run it against various databases (or reference data).
Well roughly June 10th I will find out my DNA results from Ancestry.


Do you also have extensive "paper" family tree geneology? Pedigree?


Note when you get those Ancestry results, you can also upload your data to Gedmatch.com



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« Reply #321 on: May 27, 2019, 08:39:20 pm »
If you have your DNA raw data, you can upload it to GedMatch, and run it against various databases (or reference data).

Do you also have extensive "paper" family tree geneology? Pedigree?


Note when you get those Ancestry results, you can also upload your data to Gedmatch.com

I don't do much on "paper", and I haven't worked on my tree in a long time. I currently have 3,500 ancestors or so. I would have many more but I hardly ever loaded siblings when I was researching my tree.

I've already loaded to Gedmatch, and ytree, yfull, WikiTree, and MyHeritage as well. And a couple others I've forgotten. I've only one match at my current Haplogroup, but I am awaiting another test results that should be ready next month sometime.

I've done all my testing at FTDNA

My Autosomal test identifies 5,156 matches.

My Mitochondrial  test shows 514 matches.

My Y-DNA test shows:

12   markers  316 matches
25   markers    57 matches
37   markers    31 matches
67   markers    15 matches
111 markers      7 matches


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« Reply #322 on: May 27, 2019, 08:56:58 pm »

I've already loaded to Gedmatch,

You are far more advanced than me.

My paper pedigree and my dna  tests confirm the other.


Four or more male generations back in central Sweden, and the matching Y-dna Haplogroup og I1.


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« Reply #323 on: May 27, 2019, 09:28:24 pm »
Out of all those matches FTDNA says I have, I've only researched and mapped into my tree less than a dozen or so. Most were 3rd to 5th Cousins. I've yet to find even one in all the MTDNA matches that have been identified. My 4 closest YDNA matches all have different last names. Our Most Recent Common Ancestor(MRCA) must have been quite a Ladies Man.

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« Reply #324 on: May 27, 2019, 09:55:52 pm »
If you have your DNA raw data, you can upload it to GedMatch, and run it against various databases (or reference data).

Do you also have extensive "paper" family tree geneology? Pedigree?


Note when you get those Ancestry results, you can also upload your data to Gedmatch.com


THank you fro the info.. I do have an online Trees on Family Search, MyHertiage, and of course Ancestry.


Once I get my DNA results I'll upload it Gedmatch and MyHeritage.
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