Why Ted Cruz will never endorse Donald Trump for president

[RedHead]

No,   I don't think Cruz will ever endorse Trump.   I'll be shocked if he does,   even if Trump apologized.  Some things cannot be undone with an apology.

I'd be shocked if Trump apologized.  In his own narcissistic little world he doesn't think he's done anything to apologize for.  Other than that I agree completely with your analysis.

[A-Lert]

The problem is the ideologues making up the "conservative base". The so-called conservative base of the Republican party is relatively small. The fact is, the base needs moderates and independents if they ever expect to win another national election.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I'd be shocked if Trump apologized.  In his own narcissistic little world he doesn't think he's done anything to apologize for. 

[DiogenesLamp]

The problem is the ideologues making up the "conservative base". The so-called conservative base of the Republican party is relatively small. The fact is, the base needs moderates and independents if they ever expect to win another national election.

The solution to the problems which ail the nation is not moderation.   The nation needs,  in fact,   to go in the direction that only the most arch conservatives currently articulate.   


Any thing else is merely rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.   


"Moderation"  is merely compromising with Liberal Democrats.   It might help get you elected,   but it won't solve any actual problems. 

[A-Lert]

The solution to the problems which ail the nation is not moderation.   The nation needs,  in fact,   to go in the direction that only the most arch conservatives currently articulate.   


Any thing else is merely rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.   


"Moderation"  is merely compromising with Liberal Democrats.   It might help get you elected,   but it won't solve any actual problems.

There will be no solutions without moderation. This is 2016. Society has changed immensely since the Reagan years. I can't see how we can ever go back. I would like to go back, but young people promote and support drug use, abortion, same sex marriage, etc. Who is going to change them?

[DrewsDad]

Welcome aboard @ICorpsVeteran  !!!

I'm glad you made it.

 

[Mechanicos]

The solution to the problems which ail the nation is not moderation.   The nation needs,  in fact,   to go in the direction that only the most arch conservatives currently articulate.   


Any thing else is merely rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.   


"Moderation"  is merely compromising with Liberal Democrats.   It might help get you elected,   but it won't solve any actual problems.

There may be hope for that here. The issues of Morality are intertwined strongly with The Courts, Education and Religious Freedom
On all three Areas Trump has indicated movement in positive directions for them.
He has put out a list of strong conservative Judges.
He has promised to eliminate Federal control of Education and move it back to State control.
He has promised to protect Freedom of religion.

All of these may or may not happen. If they do we go in the direction of healing our culture. We have no chance of that if Hillary gets in.

[ScottinVA]

Trump has made it personal.   He has said things that cannot be taken back,   and cannot be forgiven.   
 

That's the key right there.  It's one thing for candidates to attack each other, but to attack the opponent's family members is another issue altogether.  And included in that context of attacking Cruz' family members are the smears on Heidi Cruz, the Trump-abetted National Enquirer character assassination on Ted Cruz' marriage, and the accusation that Rafael Cruz assisted Oswald in the assassination of JFK. 

Yet... suddenly, Trump wants Cruz just to drop the whole matter and endorse him.   

Besides, what's the gain with smoothing the waters with Cruz?  Trump has already stated party unity isn't necessary.

It doesn't work that way... What Trump should do is something he's never done -- apologize in public about that character assassination of Cruz.

[Mechanicos]

That's the key right there.  It's one thing for candidates to attack each other, but to attack the opponent's family members is another issue altogether.  And included in that context of attacking Cruz' family members are the smears on Heidi Cruz, the Trump-abetted National Enquirer character assassination on Ted Cruz' marriage, and the accusation that Rafael Cruz assisted Oswald in the assassination of JFK. 

Yet... suddenly, Trump wants Cruz just to drop the whole matter and endorse him.   

Besides, what's the gain with smoothing the waters with Cruz?  Trump has already stated party unity isn't necessary.

It doesn't work that way... What Trump should do is something he's never done -- apologize in public about that character assassination of Cruz.

Cruz camp started the personal attacks -h ere is where it started.
http://dcwhispers.com/report-cruz-campaign-prepared-sex-scandal-story-several-weeks/#AJoswBgC2KtGEf4S.99

And No the Lawyer argument of the PAC will not fly, this is not a court room.

[Mechanicos]

How does the link to the story of Trump's buddy dumping the story of the #CruzSexLies in the NE equate to Cruz starting the personal attacks?

 Posted on March 25, 2016 by DCWhispers   

DC Whispers has received information that suggests an effort by the Cruz Campaign to prepare for the now burgeoning scandal has been in the works for “several weeks” and includes, but is not limited to, the most recent back and forth social media spat between Ted Cruz and Donald Trump that was initiated by a Cruz Super PAC using a sixteen year old modeling photo of Mr. Trump’s wife which was then distributed to Mormon-dominated voters of Utah just prior to that state’s caucus election:

[catfish1957]

Why I would seriously doubt that Cruz or any other sane candidate under the same circumstances  would endorse  Trump:

(1) Accuse your father of being part of the JFK assassination 
(2) Create false meme of "Lyin"  Ted.  Trump is the master deception perception generator.
(3) Attack his wife with some of the most unflattering garbage ever in a primary.
(4) With help of stone and pecker create a false infidelity scandal via Trump's allies at National Enquirer.
(5) Accusations of cheating in delegate securing process, when all Cruz' activities were within the rules.

Think about folks, do we need a POTUS (Trump) who can barely speak in complete sentences?

[ExFreeper]

... do we need a POTUS (Trump) who can barely speak in complete sentences?

Give him some time.  I read that he has received speaking sessions from Sarah P. with additional lessons scheduled between now and the GOP convention this summer.  I'm told the lessons include simple sentence structure, repeating key words/phases for the low info voter, dialect inversion, etc since his key voter demographic is bubba and bubbette.  There is also a rumor that he has enlisted a key Bernie linguist in an attempt to sway over the Burnie millennials and coastal socialists.

[A-Lert]

Give him some time.  I read that he has received speaking sessions from Sarah P. with additional lessons scheduled between now and the GOP convention this summer.  I'm told the lessons include simple sentence structure, repeating key words/phases for the low info voter, dialect inversion, etc since his key voter demographic is bubba and bubbette.  There is also a rumor that he has enlisted a key Bernie linguist in an attempt to sway over the Burnie millennials and coastal socialists.

Not everyone is blessed with the silken, forked-tongue of a lawyer.

[GrouchoTex]

The problem is the ideologues making up the "conservative base". The so-called conservative base of the Republican party is relatively small. The fact is, the base needs moderates and independents if they ever expect to win another national election.

I disagree.
The conservative base is at least 25%, probably 33%, possibly as high as 40%.
You will need those 25 to 40% of "relatively small" base to win in November.
Their just aren't enough moderates and independents out there to cover those types of percentages, and they tend to split both ways, anyway.

Let's say you may be half right, and you will need moderates and independents,you will probably need both.

If you ignore, ridicule, or anger the conservative base, you will lose for certain.
The conservative base are the people most likely to get involved and actively campaign.
The moderates and independents, not so much.

[A-Lert]

I disagree.
The conservative base is at least 25%, probably 33%, possibly as high as 40%.
You will need those 25 to 40% of "relatively small" base to win in November.
Their just aren't enough moderates and independents out there to cover those types of percentages, and they tend to split both ways, anyway.

Let's say you may be half right, and you will need moderates and independents,you will probably need both.

If you ignore, ridicule, or anger the conservative base, you will lose for certain.
The conservative base are the people most likely to get involved and actively campaign.
The moderates and independents, not so much.

You are free to disagree. The fact is  right wing conservative ideologues are a minority in the Republican party and conservatives are a minority of registered voters. We even managed to lose to Obama TWICE! If the Republican candidate can't attract conservative democrats and independents, Republicans won't win a national now or in the foreseeable future.

The ignore, ridicule and anger is a two way street.

I'm a hard right conservative when it comes to US security, spending, smaller and more efficient government, trade, states rights and the 2nd Amendment. Not as concerned with social issues because they'll mostly be decided by   
the courts. If Hillary is elected, we can kiss the court and social issues good-bye.

[Mechanicos]

And that was debunked, but you already know that. 

Doesn't matter.  I'm done dealing with such silliness today.  I have the flu and am not in the best of moods.  Not going to get into the argument with you that I suspect has been had with you by many others over the last few months.  It's pointless.  If you want to keep floating BS out there, then have it.

I have seen nothing credible i.e. from other then Lyin' Ted or the or the Bush Cabal (GOPe) that has debunked it. As I said real voters do not buy the PAC alone argument. This is proven by Cruz losing so badly.

[bootless]

Posted on March 25, 2016 by DCWhispers

To be accurate, Liz Mair's PAC was not a Cruz PAC. It was an anti-Trump PAC, and she was originally a Rubio supporter.

[Mechanicos]

To be accurate, Liz Mair's PAC was not a Cruz PAC. It was an anti-Trump PAC, and she was originally a Rubio supporter.

To be more accurate the FEC is still looking into the half million dollar transfer...

[roamer_1]

Some time is February or March the Trumpdavidians will realize that he is a much of an empty suit as Obozo. Buyers remorse will set in and hopefully they will be mature enough to admit their error and support Cruz in 4 years.

Well, maybe, but I think awareness will occur in about September... You know, when the begging and pleading phase begins...

[Mechanicos]

Well, maybe, but I think awareness will occur in about September... You know, when the begging and pleading phase begins...

By the time September rolls around the few remaining sore losers will be stuck mumbling to stuffed animals in a corner somewhere as a single digit group of malcontents still reading Red State.  Trump is going to win this.

[roamer_1]

By the time September rolls around the few remaining sore losers will be stuck mumbling to stuffed animals in a corner somewhere as a single digit group of malcontents still reading Red State.  Trump is going to win this.

Riiight. I've been hearing it frmo RINOs trying to go 'up the middle' my whole life. Lots of strutting and pomp, and claims of how they don't need Conservatives this year...

Then around September, they realize they aren't gonna get the job done...
Then comes whining and begging, and pleading... Which falls upon deaf ears.
Then they lose.
Then it's the Conservatives' fault for doing exactly what they said they'd do.

[LonestarDream]

Very well stated, we are looking at 25 - 40 % of the base.  My head will likely make me vote for Trump but my heart is not in it.  Trump and his supporters are STILL attacking Cruz.

Very stupid tactic, emotionally.  Even if Ted does not endorse Trump, it would behoove Trump to be gracious.  Even if Trump wins, it could be a one and out scenario or even a Dilma scenario.

More likely, we will get Arnold or Ventura in there.  Arnold lost Cali for good.  Can someone refresh my memory if Ventura ever got a second term?

I disagree.
The conservative base is at least 25%, probably 33%, possibly as high as 40%.
You will need those 25 to 40% of "relatively small" base to win in November.
Their just aren't enough moderates and independents out there to cover those types of percentages, and they tend to split both ways, anyway.

Let's say you may be half right, and you will need moderates and independents,you will probably need both.

If you ignore, ridicule, or anger the conservative base, you will lose for certain.
The conservative base are the people most likely to get involved and actively campaign.
The moderates and independents, not so much.

[Emjay]

There is no benefit to anyone for Ted Cruz to endorse Trump.  It would only hurt Ted to endorse such a horrible phony who has lied about him consistently.  Plus, he would be betraying his own principles and his future to endorse Trump.

I hope he doesn't do it.  I don't think he will.

And there would be no particular upside for Trump either.  People are set into one of three camps now and, barring something really dramatic happening, I don't see that changing.

One camp is the trumpers who worship Trump and will vote for him with or without any endorsements.

One camp is the NeverTrumps who cannot bring themselves to vote for this man for reasons we all know too well.

The third camp is the better than Hillary camp.  I consider myself a member of that camp.

We know what Hillary will do.  We have good reason to know that and it will be horrible.

There is a chance, however slight, that Donald Trump will somehow blunder into or be persuaded to do a few things right.    With that hope, I will vote for Trump if it looks close in Hawaii.

The only time Hawaii went for a Republican presidential candidate was in 1984 and Trump is no Ronald Reagan.

[annieokie]

I'd be shocked if Trump apologized.  In his own narcissistic little world he doesn't think he's done anything to apologize for.  Other than that I agree completely with your analysis.

Even if he apologized, he would just walk I back by the end of the day. Cruz should never endorse that monster, no need to sully his good name and character.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Cruz should never  endorse that monster, no need to sully his good name and character.

What character?  Cruz signed a pledge and didn't keep it because he lost---a third place loser in 10 primaries.  Any attorney worth his law degree would understand it is this action that sullies a "good" name.