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« Reply #2125 on: February 25, 2019, 09:28:28 PM »
I have watched about half of the first season of "The Expanse" and just can't get into it. The plots seem contrived and plodding.

I didn't watch it because it was on syfy, but I kept hearing great things about it, so I came in during the second season.  I really didn't see what people were so excited about.  Then recently the DVR picked up the first season which I thought was much better.  I wonder if people got into it and that tinted their opinion about season two.

I suspect something similar with Heinlein.  I didn't read him until I was in my 30's, and wasn't all that impressed.  But I can see that his kid's books would have appealed to me when I was much younger.  I wonder if people view his later work more positively because they enjoyed the earlier stuff, building a positive disposition.   
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« Reply #2126 on: February 26, 2019, 05:47:41 AM »
I didn't watch it because it was on syfy, but I kept hearing great things about it, so I came in during the second season.  I really didn't see what people were so excited about.  Then recently the DVR picked up the first season which I thought was much better.  I wonder if people got into it and that tinted their opinion about season two.

I suspect something similar with Heinlein.  I didn't read him until I was in my 30's, and wasn't all that impressed.  But I can see that his kid's books would have appealed to me when I was much younger.  I wonder if people view his later work more positively because they enjoyed the earlier stuff, building a positive disposition.   
I read some of Heinlein's stuff in my late teens and early 20's, and to me it was hit or miss. On the other hand I couldn't get enough of Asimov. Loved his Syfy and his mysteries, as well as the non fiction stuff.
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« Reply #2127 on: February 27, 2019, 09:22:35 PM »
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« Reply #2128 on: March 06, 2019, 12:35:18 PM »
Marvel 'set to cast first openly gay superhero' as fans beg for Captain America to come out

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Marvel are reportedly looking to cast their first openly gay superhero, and fans have already suggested who could take over the role. 

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige hinted that the studio was working towards bringing a new LGBTQ character into the Marvel Cinematic Universe last year, and now it's been claimed that casting has opened.

According to the That Hashtag Show, Marvel are on the hunt for an actor who will play the lead role in their 2020 feature film The Eternals.

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« Reply #2129 on: March 06, 2019, 02:21:08 PM »
Marvel 'set to cast first openly gay superhero' as fans beg for Captain America to come out

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« Reply #2130 on: March 06, 2019, 09:43:58 PM »
Wasn't Deadpool shaky enough?
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« Reply #2131 on: March 06, 2019, 11:08:38 PM »
Marvel 'set to cast first openly gay superhero' as fans beg for Captain America to come out

I think it is only natural to wonder how many inches a Superhero can swallow while fighting an intergalactic menace that might very well destroy the cosmic fabric of the universe.

In the mid 70's Captain America was so disgusted by government corruption that he abandoned his uniform.  Is there any doubt that story could have been improved by a homosexual love scene between Cap and Falcon?

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1.  The Matrix - for it's brilliant special effects, and mind expanding retelling of the Jesus story.
2.  Captain America - Winter Soldier - for it's action sequences, and it's political intrigue.
3.  Pizza Boys - for it's intense and explicit gay sex.

I'm just kidding about that last one.  I have actually found that even though I have been told gay porn is a genre that cuts across all demographics, and everybody likes gay porn, the thing that turns off many heterosexual viewers is all the gay sex.   :shrug:

I mean non-lesbian gay sex.


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« Reply #2132 on: March 06, 2019, 11:10:46 PM »
I don't do porn, but if I did, gay porn would be enough to get me to shoot the TV. Ick.
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« Reply #2133 on: March 07, 2019, 12:07:39 AM »
Don't understand what all this 'gay' @Once-Ler stuff is about, but anyway.

THE EXPANSE’ SEASON 4 CAST ADDS BELTERS, WILL SEE RETURN OF THOMAS JANE’S MILLER

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he Expanse Season 4 has wrapped filming, but we’re still hearing new casting announcements, including a handful of new Belter characters who will explore alien planets on the other side of the Ring, which revealed itself to be a wormhole gate connecting Earth and more than a thousand unexplored star systems at the end of The Expanse Season 3.

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« Reply #2134 on: March 07, 2019, 01:48:50 AM »
I don't do porn, but if I did, gay porn would be enough to get me to shoot the TV. Ick.

@Smokin Joe

I don't hate homosexuals. In fact,I feel sorry for them. Life ain't already screwed  up enough you need to add homosexuality to the burdens you bear?

Having said that,why the HELL did anyone ever agree to call them "gay"? "Gay" means happy,and they are maybe the least happy people I have ever ran into.

The only thing I can figure is that it is a last desperate attempt by them to try to pretend everything is fine.
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« Reply #2135 on: March 07, 2019, 05:38:09 AM »
@Smokin Joe

I don't hate homosexuals. In fact,I feel sorry for them. Life ain't already screwed  up enough you need to add homosexuality to the burdens you bear?

Having said that,why the HELL did anyone ever agree to call them "gay"? "Gay" means happy,and they are maybe the least happy people I have ever ran into.

The only thing I can figure is that it is a last desperate attempt by them to try to pretend everything is fine.
I don't hate anyone, Pete, I just find the whole 'gay' thing disgusting.
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« Reply #2136 on: March 07, 2019, 06:20:15 AM »
I am full force PRO homosexual in every way possible. I wish every guy on Earth was a homosexual.
That would leave all their women for me. And I would take every advantage of that.
I don't believe that Lesbians actually exist. A lesbian is just a woman who has not had sex with me yet.
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« Reply #2137 on: March 07, 2019, 08:23:41 AM »
I don't hate anyone, Pete, I just find the whole 'gay' thing disgusting.
That is why we quit watching "Lost Girl" on SyFy and I am about to drop "Supergirl" anti Gun, liberal, and now the LGBQT crap. Really do we really seriously need a transgender Alien? 
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« Reply #2138 on: March 07, 2019, 09:51:11 AM »
Really do we really seriously need a transgender Alien?

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Is there any such critter as a tranny that ISN'T an alien?
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« Reply #2139 on: March 31, 2019, 05:01:01 PM »
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« Reply #2141 on: April 15, 2019, 03:27:40 AM »
That is why we quit watching "Lost Girl" on SyFy and I am about to drop "Supergirl" anti Gun, liberal, and now the LGBQT crap. Really do we really seriously need a transgender Alien?
Gratuitous faggotry, for want of a better term is a death sentence to any series, imho. Fear the Walking Dead started off great--credible for the genre, with the junkie kid the only one to really see what was going on (he had no normalcy bias, because he had no normalcy is his world as an addict, so he caught on first). He tuned in to the zombie apocalypse before people who led normal lives (to have a bias about) did.
The series was going well until one of the characters put a passionate liplock on his childhood friend.
End of story, right there.
Never watched it again.
Orphan Black went down the same path, and with the same result.
 Mr. Robot never got a look, the previews were enough.

If the actors are homos, well, act, and stop projecting their sexuality into my living room, if they want to make a living.
How long did Rock Hudson get away with that and have a thriving career? (He still got it in the end, so to speak).
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« Reply #2142 on: April 15, 2019, 05:00:08 AM »
Gratuitous faggotry, for want of a better term is a death sentence to any series, imho. Fear the Walking Dead started off great--credible for the genre, with the junkie kid the only one to really see what was going on (he had no normalcy bias, because he had no normalcy is his world as an addict, so he caught on first). He tuned in to the zombie apocalypse before people who led normal lives (to have a bias about) did.
The series was going well until one of the characters put a passionate liplock on his childhood friend.
End of story, right there.
Never watched it again.
Orphan Black went down the same path, and with the same result.
 Mr. Robot never got a look, the previews were enough.

If the actors are homos, well, act, and stop projecting their sexuality into my living room, if they want to make a living.
How long did Rock Hudson get away with that and have a thriving career? (He still got it in the end, so to speak).
Called it quits on SWAT when they put one of the characters into a 3 way marriage. Did the same for that new CW show "Roswell" when 10 minutes in they had a  Alien / human gay relationship[. IO don't recall even finishing the episode. I will give Batwoman a shot when it comes up, but if she ends up being a SJW and the gay bit is the main story line forget it.
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« Reply #2143 on: April 15, 2019, 05:45:03 AM »
Gratuitous faggotry, for want of a better term is a death sentence to any series, imho. Fear the Walking Dead started off great--credible for the genre, with the junkie kid the only one to really see what was going on (he had no normalcy bias, because he had no normalcy is his world as an addict, so he caught on first). He tuned in to the zombie apocalypse before people who led normal lives (to have a bias about) did.
The series was going well until one of the characters put a passionate liplock on his childhood friend.
End of story, right there.
Never watched it again.
Orphan Black went down the same path, and with the same result.
 Mr. Robot never got a look, the previews were enough.

If the actors are homos, well, act, and stop projecting their sexuality into my living room, if they want to make a living.
How long did Rock Hudson get away with that and have a thriving career? (He still got it in the end, so to speak).

@Smokin Joe

Seems like it is also now taboo for any white characters in a series to date one another UNLESS they are homos. If two white co-workers were dating each other the first season,by the second season they had split up and were either dating a black co-worker,or a new black character had been introduced into the cast,and they were dating them.

The "New Reality" seems to be the evil white race will die off as they "evolve into the New Normal " of the Globalist Master Race of mixed blood. No big deal,since what have white people ever contributed to civilization,right?

Are there ANY white heterosexual working writers left in Hollywood or NYC?
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« Reply #2144 on: April 15, 2019, 07:06:21 AM »
Orphan Black didn't seem that offensive to me, but in Mr Robot the gay sex was so in-your-face gratuitous that there could be no doubt it was a cynical, blatant ploy to check a box on the Emmy application.

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« Reply #2145 on: April 15, 2019, 07:27:44 AM »
Orphan Black didn't seem that offensive to me, but in Mr Robot the gay sex was so in-your-face gratuitous that there could be no doubt it was a cynical, blatant ploy to check a box on the Emmy application.

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The same way with "Lost Girl", every freaking episode it seemed.
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« Reply #2146 on: April 15, 2019, 07:57:03 AM »
The same way with "Lost Girl", every freaking episode it seemed.

@verga

What is the name of that show with the woman who was dumped in the street in a duffle bag,naked,and covered with tattoos. She had no memory,and her tats were clues to crimes.

It had good actors and a good plot,but then they got so racially PC that I couldn't stand to watch it anymore. I will be shocked if someone tells me they don't have a left-handed,cross-eyed Muslim Eskimo trans-sexual scientist or detective on there now that isn't dating a vacuum cleaner.

And here I was thinking these shows were about solving crimes!
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« Reply #2147 on: April 15, 2019, 08:12:48 AM »
@verga

What is the name of that show with the woman who was dumped in the street in a duffle bag,naked,and covered with tattoos. She had no memory,and her tats were clues to crimes.

It had good actors and a good plot,but then they got so racially PC that I couldn't stand to watch it anymore. I will be shocked if someone tells me they don't have a left-handed,cross-eyed Muslim Eskimo trans-sexual scientist or detective on there now that isn't dating a vacuum cleaner.

And here I was thinking these shows were about solving crimes!
@sneakypete The show is Blindspot. They have pretty much stopped the PC stuff after the second season. It was actually an important plot point in the third or fourth season and it had a legitimate pay off with the Psychiatrists character. The last two seasons have been very good. They had a couple of close calls when they almost jumped the shark, but they managed to pull it off. They do have one regular that is gay and a recurring one, but I think that is a legitimate plot device so Rich.com and Patterson can engage in witty banter with out sexual tension.   
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« Reply #2148 on: April 15, 2019, 08:31:38 AM »
@sneakypete The show is Blindspot. They have pretty much stopped the PC stuff after the second season. It was actually an important plot point in the third or fourth season and it had a legitimate pay off with the Psychiatrists character. The last two seasons have been very good. They had a couple of close calls when they almost jumped the shark, but they managed to pull it off. They do have one regular that is gay and a recurring one, but I think that is a legitimate plot device so Rich.com and Patterson can engage in witty banter with out sexual tension.

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Thanks for clearing that up. I will probably start watching it again now that I know they have backed off from their PC Gone Wild days.
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« Reply #2149 on: April 16, 2019, 01:35:29 AM »
@Smokin Joe

Seems like it is also now taboo for any white characters in a series to date one another UNLESS they are homos. If two white co-workers were dating each other the first season,by the second season they had split up and were either dating a black co-worker,or a new black character had been introduced into the cast,and they were dating them.

The "New Reality" seems to be the evil white race will die off as they "evolve into the New Normal " of the Globalist Master Race of mixed blood. No big deal,since what have white people ever contributed to civilization,right?

Are there ANY white heterosexual working writers left in Hollywood or NYC?
We saw it first in commercials and sitcoms, where the white guy was either ridiculously stupid or absent, then I don't think I have seen many commercials recently that weren't slat and pepper couples. Even the 'remodeling and home buying shows my wife likes to watch got light in the loafers, and had about one couple in three who were 'partners', not a man/woman couple, which would be somewhere close to 20 times the national demographic (and that demographic may well be exaggerated because they keep adding letters to the whole GLBTQPbWTF? bit.  Sure seems to be aimed at eliminating 'Ozzie and Harriet/Leave it to Beaver' America.
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