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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #2075 on: February 08, 2019, 04:36:22 PM »
Newsflash - it's not just men who watch those shows.  I loved Eureka.
Of course. And we all know how women hate romance. I can say that I like Eureka. Don't love it. It's OK.
But yes, of course, the Sheriff is a guy. I mean, come on. She's not married. He's not married. She needs it...
I say go for it, for the sake of both of them.

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« Reply #2076 on: February 08, 2019, 04:52:58 PM »
Now I'm currently watching the Eureka series on Amazon Prime.
Sheriff Carter has to be gay. Either that or he is incapacitated with sexual insecurity.

Every second episode he has some hot woman falling all over him, but all he does every time some woman is basically begging for sex is to resist all her attempts. I'm only on Season 2 and already the guy could have had sex with half the women in the town. And yet all he does is run away?

I know this is a common plot theme on TV where a guy is being attacked by an aggressive woman and he feels uncomfortable and evades her. I've seen it a lot. This is supposed to be funny or something? But come on, the Sheriff is being aggressively hit on by beautiful women all the time, but because his character is supposed to be 'virtuous' or something he never follows through. It is confusing to me. I don't understand what his problem is? Why did they make his character profile afraid of sex. It's weird.
You should check out Andromeda, Captain Dylan Hunt is getting it almost every show from some hot chick, it's almost a running gag. And of course it's another Roddenberry show.

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« Reply #2077 on: February 08, 2019, 07:23:13 PM »
Maybe he was afraid of a sexual harassment suit, seriously. He was in a position of power, and did not want to abuse the position.

He was just trying to act like a professional. It is sad that is considered so abnormal or shocking.

I understand both of these responses. And I have experienced and done this in my own life and my own career. I understand first hand exactly what both of you are saying. However, in Science Fiction I kind of like the Captain Kirk model. As Sci-Fi fantasies go, he had no compunctions to satisfy a needy lady.
Me, not so much. I am more interested in the story than what goes on between the sheets. Two perfect examples we used to watch a show on Scy-Fy called Lost girl. Good story for a while. Then they got into this gratuitous lezbo stuff. If the sex is relevant to the story (Straight or gay) I have no problem. But  when they throw it in just tot throw it in, I have an issue.
Next Used to watch the new version of SWAT. Then they had the bisexual female get involved in a three way marriage. That ended my viewing that show.   
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« Reply #2078 on: February 08, 2019, 08:18:09 PM »
Me, not so much. I am more interested in the story than what goes on between the sheets. Two perfect examples we used to watch a show on Scy-Fy called Lost girl. Good story for a while. Then they got into this gratuitous lezbo stuff. If the sex is relevant to the story (Straight or gay) I have no problem. But  when they throw it in just tot throw it in, I have an issue.
Next Used to watch the new version of SWAT. Then they had the bisexual female get involved in a three way marriage. That ended my viewing that show.   
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No, it's not like that. I'm not looking for a sex show or anything sexual really. It is just that they bring it up, put the Sheriff in that situation in the show, and then they order him to 'stand down'. This is not normal behavior for a normal guy. It is like they are pushing the fact that he is somehow awkward around women. I guess that makes him endearing or something. For me it is more annoying.

BTW, speaking of Sci-Fi sex, it wasn't only Captain Kirk. Spock got in the mix himself with the Romulan Commander.
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #2079 on: February 08, 2019, 10:28:46 PM »
@verga
No, it's not like that. I'm not looking for a sex show or anything sexual really. It is just that they bring it up, put the Sheriff in that situation in the show, and then they order him to 'stand down'. This is not normal behavior for a normal guy. It is like they are pushing the fact that he is somehow awkward around women. I guess that makes him endearing or something. For me it is more annoying.

BTW, speaking of Sci-Fi sex, it wasn't only Captain Kirk. Spock got in the mix himself with the Romulan Commander.


Have you watched Fringe?

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« Reply #2080 on: February 09, 2019, 07:19:27 AM »
Have you watched Fringe?
Start to finish, loved it. I thought it went off the rails a boit toward the end with the whole "Amber" story.
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #2081 on: February 09, 2019, 07:26:17 AM »
@verga
No, it's not like that. I'm not looking for a sex show or anything sexual really. It is just that they bring it up, put the Sheriff in that situation in the show, and then they order him to 'stand down'. This is not normal behavior for a normal guy. It is like they are pushing the fact that he is somehow awkward around women. I guess that makes him endearing or something. For me it is more annoying.

BTW, speaking of Sci-Fi sex, it wasn't only Captain Kirk. Spock got in the mix himself with the Romulan Commander.

@240B maybe you misunderstood, I have nothing against sex in a show as long as it moves the story. Let's face it with out the incest "there is not story for "Tis Pity she's a whore". My issue is gratuitous sex or when they use it to try and normalize truly deviant behavior.
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« Reply #2082 on: February 09, 2019, 04:37:16 PM »
I see Prime Video has Stargate SG-1 now - is that worth watching?
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« Reply #2083 on: February 09, 2019, 05:46:40 PM »
I see Prime Video has Stargate SG-1 now - is that worth watching?


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« Reply #2084 on: February 09, 2019, 06:04:00 PM »
I see Prime Video has Stargate SG-1 now - is that worth watching?
@Sharknado

Watched all of SG-1, Stargate Atlantis and the movies, StarGate and Ark of Truth.
The only thing you need to know about SG-1 is that it lasted for 10 Seasons. That's a hell of run. People liked it.

If you watch it prepare for lots and lots, I mean a lot, of automatic weapons fire. The shows are full of it.

Also, in the first few seasons they have the bad guys dressed up in goofy Egyptian snake looking costumes. It almost made me stop watching because I thought that the show was for 10 years old. But they drop that fairly quickly and the show becomes more adult oriented. Enjoy it.

You should watch the movie 'Stargate' first. Because the movie inspired the series.
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« Reply #2085 on: February 09, 2019, 08:08:15 PM »
Thanks guys - I remember the movie being pretty good - I'll put it on my list...
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« Reply #2086 on: February 09, 2019, 08:11:34 PM »
Thanks guys - I remember the movie being pretty good - I'll put it on my list...
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The Arc of Truth movie is a follow on after the end of the Series. If you watch it before you watch the series, you will not really understand what is going on.
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« Reply #2087 on: February 09, 2019, 09:43:35 PM »
@Snarknado

The Arc of Truth movie is a follow on after the end of the Series. If you watch it before you watch the series, you will not really understand what is going on.

Where does Continuum fit in?
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« Reply #2088 on: February 09, 2019, 09:46:27 PM »
Where does Continuum fit in?
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Fit in with what? Never heard of it. I don't understand the question.
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« Reply #2089 on: February 09, 2019, 09:56:09 PM »
Where does Continuum fit in?


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Here is the order that I recomend for watching Stargate:

Stargate: The Movie
Stargate: SG1
Stargate: The Ark of the Truth
Stargate: Atlantis
Stargate: Universe

As for Stargate: Continuum I would watch it after The Ark of the Truth. It was OK, but not the greatest.
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« Reply #2090 on: February 10, 2019, 07:05:19 AM »
I found a Reddit post with this order - looks like last 3 seasons of SG1 overlap Atlantis, maybe some crossover episodes?

* 01 - Stargate movie
* 02 - Stargate SG-1, episodes 1.1 to 8.2
* 03 - Stargate Atlantis, episodes 1.1 to 1.15
* 04 - Stargate SG-1, episodes 8.3 to 8.20
* 05 - Stargate Atlantis, episodes 1.16 to 2.1
* 06 - Stargate SG-1, episodes 9.1 to 10.2
* 07 - Stargate Atlantis, episodes 2.2 to 3.4
* 08 - Stargate SG-1, episodes 10.3 to 10.12
* 09 - Stargate Atlantis, episodes 3.5 to 3.19
* 10 - Stargate SG-1, episodes 10.13 to 10.20
* 11 - Stargate: The Ark of Truth
* 12 - Stargate Atlantis, episodes 3.20 to 5.1
* 13 - Stargate: Continuum
* 14 - Stargate Atlantis, episodes 5.2 onwards.
* 15 - Stargate Universe, All
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« Reply #2091 on: February 10, 2019, 10:34:15 AM »
I found a Reddit post with this order - looks like last 3 seasons of SG1 overlap Atlantis, maybe some crossover episodes?

* 01 - Stargate movie
* 02 - Stargate SG-1, episodes 1.1 to 8.2
* 03 - Stargate Atlantis, episodes 1.1 to 1.15
* 04 - Stargate SG-1, episodes 8.3 to 8.20
* 05 - Stargate Atlantis, episodes 1.16 to 2.1
* 06 - Stargate SG-1, episodes 9.1 to 10.2
* 07 - Stargate Atlantis, episodes 2.2 to 3.4
* 08 - Stargate SG-1, episodes 10.3 to 10.12
* 09 - Stargate Atlantis, episodes 3.5 to 3.19
* 10 - Stargate SG-1, episodes 10.13 to 10.20
* 11 - Stargate: The Ark of Truth
* 12 - Stargate Atlantis, episodes 3.20 to 5.1
* 13 - Stargate: Continuum
* 14 - Stargate Atlantis, episodes 5.2 onwards.
* 15 - Stargate Universe, All
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Yes. SG-1 and Atlantis do overlap. They define several of the Atlantis characters in the SG series toward the end. And Atlantis is reference many times in SG-1 as "the lost city". Atlantis is simply a continuation of SG-1. The two are basically the same show.
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« Reply #2092 on: February 10, 2019, 04:26:00 PM »
I see Prime Video has Stargate SG-1 now - is that worth watching?
Definitely.
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« Reply #2093 on: February 10, 2019, 04:27:47 PM »
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Where does Continuum fit in?
After Ark of Truth, it kind of wraps up a couple of things.
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« Reply #2094 on: February 10, 2019, 04:42:29 PM »

Strip it all down and T&A sells. Get rid of the Space Dr Dentons, the Yuma Territory trusses, and the Jane Jetson 1960s Back To The Future look, and it's still T&A.

Roddenbury's mannequins had all the 'character/s' of a recycled cardboard box.
Yep, the guys I worked with while the show was on the air called 'Troi' commander cleavage. She was definitely a proud mama. An episode when Picard was replaced with a new captain, the first thing he said to Troi was for her to put on a real uniform. - lol

T'pal did the skin tight full body suit like 7 of 9. And she looked good in it. BTW, Marina Sirtis the actress who played Troi, described those body suits as more like 'body molds' than body suits. They were so tight they could make any woman look smoking hot.

In the original Star Trek, it was implied rather obviously that Captain Kirk and his yoeman Janice Rand had a thing going on. Although it was never said explicitly during the series. It would be inappropriate for the Captain to hit on his secretary so they kept it on the down low.


But yes, I agree almost all the women on the various Star Trek franchises were used as sex magnets. Sex sells.
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« Reply #2095 on: February 13, 2019, 07:11:17 PM »
The Twilight Zone - All Openings (1959 - 2002)

Not sorry. Why should I be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJj9nvk0AgY
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« Reply #2096 on: February 13, 2019, 07:29:04 PM »
Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams - Season 1
There is a series on AP called Electric Dreams. It fascinated me. Not because it was a good series, but because all of the shows in the series were rehashed Sci-Fi themes. I had fun remembering which Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, or other Sci-Fi themes, each of the shows was based on. All of the shows in this series are derived from previous Sci-Fi shows.

It is like a trivia or a memory test to remember which of these shows belongs to which Sci-Fi show in the past. That part was fun for me, even though the shows themselves were not all that good. But then again, it is very hard to impress all of us old-timer Sci-Fi nuts, because we have seen it all before.
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« Reply #2097 on: February 13, 2019, 09:24:22 PM »
Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams - Season 1
There is a series on AP called Electric Dreams. It fascinated me. Not because it was a good series, but because all of the shows in the series were rehashed Sci-Fi themes. I had fun remembering which Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, or other Sci-Fi themes, each of the shows was based on. All of the shows in this series are derived from previous Sci-Fi shows.

It is like a trivia or a memory test to remember which of these shows belongs to which Sci-Fi show in the past. That part was fun for me, even though the shows themselves were not all that good. But then again, it is very hard to impress all of us old-timer Sci-Fi nuts, because we have seen it all before.


I enjoyed that show.
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« Reply #2098 on: February 14, 2019, 08:06:30 PM »
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« Reply #2099 on: February 14, 2019, 08:23:10 PM »
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One of the things I really loved about The Expanse is that the science conforms with physics, for the most part. Objects in space don't fly like jets in atmosphere, but move according to force vectors without any aerodynamic effects. Watching them flip the ship in a fight instead of fly in some half circle, evacuating atmosphere and suiting up for a fight using kinetic weapons, all made sense. Finally!
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