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Political science professor Helmut Norpoth, above, moments after announcing his presidential election forecast at the SUNY Global Center on Feb. 22. Norpoth’s findings with the electoral cycle method show the Republican Party having a 61 percent chance of winning the general election.

A professor of political science at Stony Brook University has forecasted that Donald Trump has a minimum 97 percent chance of winning the general election as the Republican nominee.

Professor Helmut Norpoth’s forecast presentation took place Monday evening in the SUNY Global Center in Manhattan, which was organized by the Stony Brook Alumni Association.

Norpoth created a statistical model of presidential elections that uses a candidate’s performance in their party’s primary and patterns in the electoral cycle as predictors of the presidential vote in the general election.

Donald Trump has a 97 percent chance of defeating Hillary Clinton and a 99 percent chance of defeating Bernie Sanders in the general election, according to Norpoth’s formula.

“The bottom line is that the primary model, using also the cyclical movement, makes it almost certain that Donald Trump will be the next president,” Norpoth said, “if he’s a nominee of the [Republican] party.”

Norpoth’s primary model works for every presidential election since 1912, with the notable exception of the 1960 election. These results give the model an accuracy of 96.1 percent.

Norpoth began the presentation with an introduction of the potential matchups in the general election, including a hypothetical Sanders vs. Trump general election.

“When I started out with this kind of display a few months ago, I thought it was sort of a joke.” Norpoth said referring to Trump and Sanders, as many alumni in the audience laughed. “Well, I’ll tell you right now, it ain’t a joke anymore.”

As the presentation continued, laughter turned to silence as Norpoth forecasted a 61 percent chance of a Republican win in the general election.

This forecast was made using the electoral cycle model, which studies a pattern of voting in the presidential election that makes it less likely for an incumbent party to hold the presidency after two terms in office. The model does not assume who would be the party nominees or the conditions of the country at the time.

“You think ‘This is crazy. How can anything come up with something like that?’ ” Norpoth said “But that’s exactly the kind of equation I used to predict Bill Clinton winning in ‘96, that I used to predict that George Bush would win in 2004, and, as you remember four years ago, that Obama would win in 2012.”

Norpoth then added data from the New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries to narrow down the forecast to specific candidates. As he brought up the first slide with matchup results, the silence was broken by muttering from the audience.

“Trump beats Hillary 54.7 percent to 45.3 percent [of the popular vote]. This is almost too much to believe.” Norpoth said, with a few members of the audience laughing nervously. “The probability of that [outcome] is almost complete certainty, 97 percent. It’s almost ‘Take it to the bank.’ ”

The primary model predicts a Trump victory with such certainty due to Trump’s relatively high success in the Republican primaries, Norpoth said. Clinton, in comparison, is in an essential tie with Sanders in the Democratic primaries. As a result, Sanders would also lose to Trump in a similar landslide if Sanders were to be the Democratic nominee, Norpoth said.

In contrast, Norpoth forecasted that a hypothetical presidential race with Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio on the Republican ticket would be a much closer race. The results showed Clinton with a 55 percent chance of winning the race against Cruz or Rubio with a 0.3 percent lead in the popular vote.

Norpoth’s model showed Sanders losing against Rubio or Cruz with a 0.6 percent gap in the popular vote, giving a Rubio or Cruz ticket a 60 percent chance of winning against the Vermont senator.

Norpoth added that while the non-Trump Republican ticket would be much more unlikely to win the general election due to differences in the popular vote and the electoral college vote, there is almost no chance that Trump would lose the electoral college vote with his forecasted lead in the popular vote.

“If you win by 54 percent [of the popular vote], you have a big majority in the electoral college,” Norpoth said. “Nobody who has ever gotten 54 percent has lost.”

https://www.sbstatesman.com/2016/02/23/political-science-professor-forecasts-trump-as-general-election-winner/

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“Trump beats Hillary 54.7 percent to 45.3 percent [of the popular vote]. This is almost too much to believe.” Norpoth said, with a few members of the audience laughing nervously. “The probability of that [outcome] is almost complete certainty, 97 percent. It’s almost ‘Take it to the bank.’ ”

Incredible!  Of course, certain people that are always spouting numbers that show "Trump can't win" will completely ignore this and any future polls that show Trump CAN win!

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Time For Change: A Forecast of the 2016 Election

Helmut Norpoth
Stony Brook University

APSA 2013 Annual Meeting Paper
American Political Science Association 2013 Annual Meeting

American presidential elections run in cycles that have turning points after about two to three terms of a party’s control of the White House. This is not the pattern associated with realignment eras that are presumed to last 30 years or so. The cyclical dynamic is estimated with a second-order autoregressive model. More than three years before the day of the next presidential election is not too early for the cyclical model to offer its forecast. With parameter estimates and the requisite values for the predictors at hand, the cyclical forecast is able to make an unconditional forecast for the 2016 presidential election: 51.4% of the two-party popular vote for the Republican candidate. The 2016 contest shapes up as “Time for a Change” election. After two terms, consistent with the logic of the cyclical model, change looms larger than continuity.

Funny. The Professor said the GOP would win this cycle. That would mean any candidate since none were running in 13. Odd that he now says only one can win.

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This can not be so because Trump has a ceiling of 35 % according the GRB experts and political wizards.

The people that like Trump are KKK and Nazis.
 
It is truly a winning strategy to waste hours on end, calling his supporters all sorts of negative things.

That way his performance will get worse, his numbers of 35% will go down.

Anti-Trump people have much greater morality. They wouldn't dare use dirty tricks, because they teach against stuff like that, in all of the right churches etc.

Finally Glenn Beck is a real boost for a candidate.
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This can not be so because Trump has a ceiling of 35 % according the GRB experts and political wizards.

The people that like Trump are KKK and Nazis.
 
It is truly a winning strategy to waste hours on end, calling his supporters all sorts of negative things.

That way his performance will get worse, his numbers of 35% will go down.

Anti-Trump people have much greater morality. They wouldn't dare use dirty tricks, because they teach against stuff like that, in all of the right churches etc.

Finally Glenn Beck is a real boost for a candidate.

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.. because they teach against stuff like that, in all of the right churches etc.

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This can not be so because Trump has a ceiling of 35 % according the GRB experts and political wizards.

The people that like Trump are KKK and Nazis.
 
It is truly a winning strategy to waste hours on end, calling his supporters all sorts of negative things.

That way his performance will get worse, his numbers of 35% will go down.

Anti-Trump people have much greater morality. They wouldn't dare use dirty tricks, because they teach against stuff like that, in all of the right churches etc.

Finally Glenn Beck is a real boost for a candidate.

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Here is the problem...

people think Trump will not do what he says, yet we know that he wants to be loved, by his haters.

so if he wants adoration HE WILL DO WHAT HE SAYS!!!!


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