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Rubio: Cruz Has 'Not Told The Truth' About Immigration
« on: December 18, 2015, 04:01:16 pm »
by Alexandra Jaffe and Andrew Rafferty
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"By revealing the truth, calling their bluff, we were able to mobilize and energize the American people and defeat it. And by the way what we've seen in the last 2 days, this is the establishment strikes back," Cruz told reporters in Nevada. "We won that fight. We defeated amnesty and they are furious."

Republican White House hopefuls Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz continued their feud over immigration on Thursday, with each accusing the other of intentionally misrepresenting their past views on how to handle undocumented immigrants currently in the U.S.

While campaigning in Iowa, Rubio said that Cruz has "not told the truth about his position in the past on legalization and up until the other night at the debate, he had never said what he said."

At nearly the same time in Nevada, Cruz was defending his opposition to allowing undocumented immigrants from staying in the country legally.

"I oppose amnesty. I oppose citizenship. I oppose legalization for illegal aliens," Cruz told reporters. "I always have and I always will. And I challenge every other Republican candidate to say the same thing or if not, then to stop making silly assertions that their record and my record on immigration are the same."

The Republican senators' feud over immigration exploded during the fifth GOP presidential debate on Tuesday when Rubio, who supports potentially allowing undocumented immigrants to become citizens, equated Cruz's stance on immigration to his own.

At issue is an amendment Cruz offered to the 2013 immigration reform bill that would have allowed undocumented immigrants a route to work permits and green cards, while also making them ineligible from ever gaining citizenship. The Texas senator has said the amendment was a "poison pill" meant to highlight the fact that Democrats weren't open to compromise on a pathway to citizenship to get reform passed, even as they demanded compromise from Republicans on the bill.

"By revealing the truth, calling their bluff, we were able to mobilize and energize the American people and defeat it. And by the way what we've seen in the last 2 days, this is the establishment strikes back," Cruz told reporters in Nevada. "We won that fight. We defeated amnesty and they are furious."

Cruz has come under heavy fire for comments he made during Tuesday debate that "I have never supported legalization, and I do not intend to support legalization."

Rubio charged that Cruz's comment left him some "wiggle room" on the issue of legalization and said Cruz had hoped to "get through a primary without having to discuss" the issue, but "leave the option open" for future political advantage.

Legalization and citizenship for undocumented immigrants remain hot-button issues among conservatives, who believe both amount to "amnesty" for immigrants who broke the law to come to the U.S. But polling has shown a majority of Americans, including a majority of those in both parties, support some form of legalization for undocumented immigrants.

Rubio has embraced both, and in an interview with NBC News on Wednesday, acknowledged his openness to citizenship for undocumented immigrants is not a popular stance in the GOP.

"I personally do not believe that it's good for America to have millions of people permanently living here who can never become Americans, who want to be Americans, who love America, but just can't become Americans," Rubio told NBC News' Hallie Jackson. "I personally don't think that's a good idea."

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/rubio-cruz-has-not-told-truth-about-immigration-n481981
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Re: Rubio: Cruz Has 'Not Told The Truth' About Immigration
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2015, 04:07:42 pm »
Marco Rubio wrongly says Ted Cruz supports 'legalizing people who are in this country illegally'

By W. Gardner Selby, Amy Sherman on Wednesday, December 16th, 2015 at 12:51 p.m.

Our ruling

Rubio said Cruz "is a supporter of legalizing people that are in this country illegally."

Cruz proposed an amendment in 2013 to the immigration bill that would have stripped the citizenship provision. But it would have kept intact the language in the Senate bill that allowed illegal immigrants to still apply for the Registered Provisional Immigrant program in the overall bill, which would have resulted in a work permit and 10 years later application for permanent residency.

But it’s a stretch for Rubio to label Cruz as a supporter of legalization when he was an ardent critic of the overall bill for months and voted against it. Cruz’s amendment appeared to be a legislative tactic.


We rate this statement Mostly False.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/dec/16/marco-rubio/marco-rubio-says-ted-cruz-supports-legalizing-peop/

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Re: Rubio: Cruz Has 'Not Told The Truth' About Immigration
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2015, 04:28:29 pm »
 
Rubio is a little slime-ball...


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Re: Rubio: Cruz Has 'Not Told The Truth' About Immigration
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2015, 04:35:22 pm »

Rubio is a little slime-ball...

As well as an establishment tool!
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Re: Rubio: Cruz Has 'Not Told The Truth' About Immigration
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2015, 04:36:39 pm »
Rubio voted for, Cruz voted against. The rest of this is just useless obfuscation to try and immunize Rubio's vulnerability on this issue with GOP voters.

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Re: Rubio: Cruz Has 'Not Told The Truth' About Immigration
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2015, 04:47:33 pm »
Rubio voted for, Cruz voted against. The rest of this is just useless obfuscation to try and immunize Rubio's vulnerability on this issue with GOP voters.

Pretty much!

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Re: Rubio: Cruz Has 'Not Told The Truth' About Immigration
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2015, 06:19:01 pm »
Rubio is dead to me. has been for some time. Now his no vote.......slime ball is correct Dan.


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Re: Rubio: Cruz Has 'Not Told The Truth' About Immigration
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2015, 06:22:06 pm »
Rubio is dead to me. has been for some time. Now his no vote.......slime ball is correct Dan.

At this point, Rubio's campaign is pretty much dead.  These are called unforced errors.
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Re: Rubio: Cruz Has 'Not Told The Truth' About Immigration
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2015, 06:23:19 pm »
At this point, Rubio's campaign is pretty much dead.  These are called unforced errors.

No show for the Budget Bill vote is the stake in the heart of the Rubio campaign.

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Re: Rubio: Cruz Has 'Not Told The Truth' About Immigration
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2015, 08:07:22 pm »
No show Rubio!  new name for him.


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Re: Rubio: Cruz Has 'Not Told The Truth' About Immigration
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2015, 08:15:07 pm »
No show Rubio!  new name for him.



Brave Sir Rubio ran away
Bravely ran away away
When the Budget reared its ugly head
He bravely turned his tail and fled
Yes, brave Sir Rubio turned about
And gallantly he chickened out

Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat
Bravest of the brave, Sir Rubio!

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Re: Rubio: Cruz Has 'Not Told The Truth' About Immigration
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2015, 06:17:07 am »


Rage on with your bad self.  Immigration polls under climate change.