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Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER IN SAN BERNARDINO
« Reply #850 on: December 05, 2015, 06:02:45 pm »
So early reports of someone taken into custody - on the run while the married couple were shooting it out with cops - were wrong?
That is my understanding. However I saw a post on Facebook of an individual claiming he had friend/friends on San Bernardino area law enforcement, that they were searching for other known associates, of the dead couple.

The post said LE was not making this public because they don't want to scare the public.

My guess is that while various laypersons with no training or experience in LE, ramble on endlessly on sites like this, the skilled people are out there trying to do their jobs.

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« Reply #851 on: December 05, 2015, 06:03:43 pm »
So early reports of someone taken into custody - on the run while the married couple were shooting it out with cops - were wrong?


He was released when it was determined he had nothing to do with the shooting.
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« Reply #852 on: December 05, 2015, 06:07:24 pm »

He was released when it was determined he had nothing to do with the shooting.

That is my understanding also.
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« Reply #853 on: December 05, 2015, 06:09:37 pm »
My guess is that while various laypersons with no training or experience in LE, ramble on endlessly on sites like this, the skilled people are out there trying to do their jobs.

But some of 'em say it so authoritatively.
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« Reply #854 on: December 05, 2015, 07:59:10 pm »

He was released when it was determined he had nothing to do with the shooting.
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« Reply #855 on: December 05, 2015, 08:13:48 pm »
Now I know the real reason that appt was open to media. Cnn asked a reporter who was in appt this question. Did anything in that place look like they were terrorist? No was the answer, toys just like anyone else s apt. Did the powers that be plant things in that place to make it look more American?


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« Reply #856 on: December 05, 2015, 08:17:56 pm »
Now I know the real reason that appt was open to media. Cnn asked a reporter who was in appt this question. Did anything in that place look like they were terrorist? No was the answer, toys just like anyone else s apt. Did the powers that be plant things in that place to make it look more American?

How strange is it in America today...that we can think such a thing about our government and you sit back and realize that with this corrupt bunch it is a very reasonable supposition.
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« Reply #857 on: December 05, 2015, 08:36:16 pm »
How strange is it in America today...that we can think such a thing about our government and you sit back and realize that with this corrupt bunch it is a very reasonable supposition.
We know it was a 2 story apt. In photos only saw one bathroom, kitchen, living room any of garage? The couples bed room? edit to add....remember the authorities said it was  EID factory, no sign of anything close to that in those photos was there?
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« Reply #858 on: December 05, 2015, 08:42:25 pm »
We know it was a 2 story apt. In photos only saw one bathroom, kitchen, living room any of garage? The couples bed room? edit to add....remember the authorities said it was  EID factory, no sign of anything close to that in those photos was there?

Yeah.  Things are being covered up.

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« Reply #859 on: December 05, 2015, 08:50:04 pm »
The question still is "why".  The only good answer is that this is indeed a cell and they are attempting to apprehend the rest of it.  All the other answers point to treason on the part of the highest officials in the government.
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« Reply #860 on: December 05, 2015, 08:54:54 pm »
The question still is "why".  The only good answer is that this is indeed a cell and they are attempting to apprehend the rest of it.  All the other answers point to treason on the part of the highest officials in the government.

They are terrorists and that is what terrorists do.... there is no why...

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« Reply #861 on: December 05, 2015, 08:57:01 pm »
They are terrorists and that is what terrorists do.... there is no why...

No, that's not the "why" I am writing of...it is the cover up of actions related to opening the house, or part of it, to the media.
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« Reply #862 on: December 05, 2015, 09:08:22 pm »
No, that's not the "why" I am writing of...it is the cover up of actions related to opening the house, or part of it, to the media.

That video is still surreal to me, but nobody really seems to care, and many seem to think it's SOP.   :shrug:
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« Reply #863 on: December 05, 2015, 09:12:11 pm »
The question still is "why".  The only good answer is that this is indeed a cell and they are attempting to apprehend the rest of it.  All the other answers point to treason on the part of the highest officials in the government.

Wouldn't it be easier to scour everything in that home for prints and any other DNA evidence of other cell members and bring it all into a controlled laboratory environment?

I've yet to hear a good reason why that hadn't been done before the "investigation" was over.

Facebook scrubbed my sharing of that video, too.  This is a cover-up in the wide open.  That's how brazen the terrorists, including our president, are at this point in America.
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« Reply #864 on: December 05, 2015, 09:26:37 pm »
Wouldn't it be easier to scour everything in that home for prints and any other DNA evidence of other cell members?

I've yet to hear a good reason why that hadn't been done before the "investigation" was over.

Facebook scrubbed my sharing of that video, too.

I don't know - I can hope for the best, that they have some very hot leads and they are pursuing those with vigor, while throwing out all sort of disinformation out to lower the guard of the fugitives...or I can see an effort to disrupt the investigation to assist those the administration favors while keeping the focus on "peaceful, law abiding muslims" and promoting the idea that Americans are bigots.  And waiting for everyone to be distracted by football this weekend.  That would be treason...and I am at a loss trying to convince myself that Obama would not go there.  And then there is Congress...which has become the most useless institution in history.
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« Reply #865 on: December 05, 2015, 09:51:59 pm »
I don't know - I can hope for the best, that they have some very hot leads and they are pursuing those with vigor, while throwing out all sort of disinformation out to lower the guard of the fugitives...or I can see an effort to disrupt the investigation to assist those the administration favors while keeping the focus on "peaceful, law abiding muslims" and promoting the idea that Americans are bigots.  And waiting for everyone to be distracted by football this weekend.  That would be treason...and I am at a loss trying to convince myself that Obama would not go there.  And then there is Congress...which has become the most useless institution in history.

Yeah, it's a great thing we worked so hard to gain control back from the Dems, huh?  Frightened to the point they won't shut down the government by adding an anti-refugee amendment to the funding bill they just passed, even with 65% of Americans opposed to bringing in these unvetted terrorists.

I feel like such a sucker for standing by the establishment GOP for as long as I did.  It's all just one big elitist party in DC as they thumb their noses at us peons.
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Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER IN SAN BERNARDINO
« Reply #866 on: December 06, 2015, 05:23:27 pm »
San Bernardino Terrorist’s Father: My Son Was ‘Obsessed’ With Israel

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/06/san-bernardino-terrorists-father-my-son-was-obsessed-with-israel/

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TEL AVIV – A window into the extremist mindset of San Bernardino jihadist Syed Rizwan Farook was provided by his father Syed Farook, who described his son as “obsessed with Israel.”

Syed Farook provided an interview to the Italian newspaper La Stampa, where he said:

My son said that he shared [IS leader Abu Bakr] Al Baghdadi’s ideology and supported the creation of the Islamic State. He was also obsessed with Israel.

I told him he had to stay calm and be patient because in two years Israel will not exist anymore. Geopolitics is changing: Russia, China and America don’t want Jews there any more. They are going to bring the Jews back to Ukraine. What is the point of fighting? We have already done it and we lost. Israel is not to be fought with weapons, but with politics. But he did not listen to me, he was obsessed.”

Asked if he knew whether Syed Rizwan Farook had contacts with terrorist organizations, the father replied, “I do not know. But these days, who knows, with the internet and all that technology. ”


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« Reply #867 on: December 06, 2015, 05:27:59 pm »
San Bernardino Terrorist’s Father: My Son Was ‘Obsessed’ With Israel

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/06/san-bernardino-terrorists-father-my-son-was-obsessed-with-israel/

On the one hand the father was brutally honest about his son...on the other he has the perverted Islamic mindset himself. Don't tell me Islam is not the problem...they are a religion FULL of rabid animals.
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« Reply #868 on: December 06, 2015, 05:33:31 pm »
On the one hand the father was brutally honest about his son...on the other he has the perverted Islamic mindset himself. Don't tell me Islam is not the problem...they are a religion FULL of rabid animals.
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« Reply #869 on: December 06, 2015, 05:52:57 pm »
I told him he had to stay calm and be patient because in two years Israel will not exist anymore. Geopolitics is changing: Russia, China and America don’t want Jews there any more. They are going to bring the Jews back to Ukraine. What is the point of fighting? We have already done it and we lost. Israel is not to be fought with weapons, but with politics. But he did not listen to me, he was obsessed.”

It's not just Muslims who have weird-assed ideas about Israel and Jews.  Go to Twitter and type in "Gaza" and you'll see it.
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« Reply #870 on: December 07, 2015, 06:58:16 pm »
Now I know the real reason that appt was open to media. Cnn asked a reporter who was in appt this question. Did anything in that place look like they were terrorist? No was the answer, toys just like anyone else s apt. Did the powers that be plant things in that place to make it look more American?

No one had any need to plant things. It probaly IS just like anyone else's apartment. That's the whole point of a sleeper.
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« Reply #871 on: December 08, 2015, 05:31:29 pm »
No one had any need to plant things. It probaly IS just like anyone else's apartment. That's the whole point of a sleeper.
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« Reply #872 on: December 08, 2015, 08:06:09 pm »
Terror couple's bombs were set to kill first responders

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/07/terror-couple-bombs-were-set-to-kill-first-repsonders/?intcmp=hpbt3

California terrorists got a $28k payment two weeks before attack - suspicious transfer revealed as FBI says couple had been radicalized for 'some time' and had rigged building to blow after massacre

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3350320/San-Bernardino-gunmen-rigged-conference-center-blow-responders-arrived-months-practice-radicalized-time.html#

EXCLUSIVE: Shooting targets, GoPro packaging, hammer and 'vise grips' found by FBI in car belonging to San Bernardino shooter's MOTHER

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3350280/Shooting-targets-GoPro-packaging-hammer-Syed-Farook-s-mother-s-car.html

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« Reply #873 on: December 08, 2015, 08:14:17 pm »
I cannot read the comments at DM is it only me?

I can see them...


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« Reply #874 on: December 08, 2015, 08:32:41 pm »
I can see them...
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