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Re: BREAKING: ACTIVE SHOOTER IN SAN BERNARDINO
« Reply #525 on: December 03, 2015, 03:04:30 am »
This got me thinking. What are qualifications to be a terrorist? I mean, is there a screening process? Do you get an interview? Does senior management take you to lunch, check you out?

You know when the ad reads "...experience with self detonation required," they're not getting the cream of the crop.

Kind of my point too.

Isis blankets Facebook pages with messages looking for people not happy with their employers, teachers, or family. they start to influence.  They start prodding and leading them to do their bidding.

The target of opportunity is not the location they attack, but the opportunity to have an attacker.

In other words, their victory isn't hitting specific targets. Their victory is recruiting people to take action, no matter what the target.

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« Reply #526 on: December 03, 2015, 03:05:02 am »
I'm concerned about the rise of militant Islam among prisoners - primarily African American -  in our jails and correctional institutions.   These are dangerous sociopaths to begin with and the persecution ideology of radical Islam appeals to that diseased mindset.

There is also a tremendous number of active-duty US Army who practice Islam.  Of course the vast majority are black.

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« Reply #527 on: December 03, 2015, 03:07:03 am »
There is one thing not consistent with an Islamic terror attack.

These things typically take place in the major cities: New York, London, Paris, Madrid. They involve multiple targets, usually targeting major landmarks. A targeted hit on a single location, in a mid-sized, exurban city, does not fit the usual profile of global Islamic terror.

True.  But it is more consistent with a locally-recruited sleeper cell; individuals who have never received hard-core training overseas and instead have been instructed to hit targets of opportunity that they find.  I believe I recall reading a little news item some time ago that there was a fear that the Americans and Europeans who made their way to Syria and etc were basically being given some rudimentary training and told to go back home and then pick a target and go for it.  Nothing major, just a soft target that the recruits could manage.

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« Reply #528 on: December 03, 2015, 03:10:18 am »
There is one thing not consistent with an Islamic terror attack.

These things typically take place in the major cities: New York, London, Paris, Madrid. They involve multiple targets, usually targeting major landmarks. A targeted hit on a single location, in a mid-sized, exurban city, does not fit the usual profile of global Islamic terror.
I notice this big time, for there hasn't been very much focus on Lost Angeles, our 2nd largest city. I think the terrorists' point is yes, we can do it there too.

And they certainly have a diverse population within which to mingle. LA is for instance the largest place for Iranians, out side Iran. Not saying this is Iranian, BTW--just portraying the multi-cultural aspect of this huge metro area.
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« Reply #529 on: December 03, 2015, 03:10:43 am »
There is one thing not consistent with an Islamic terror attack.

These things typically take place in the major cities: New York, London, Paris, Madrid. They involve multiple targets, usually targeting major landmarks. A targeted hit on a single location, in a mid-sized, exurban city, does not fit the usual profile of global Islamic terror.

You are thinking too small...too limited a pattern. It leaves no room for a new thing.  It's like expecting military tactics to never change, that's how societies lose wars - by fighting the last one.
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« Reply #530 on: December 03, 2015, 03:13:30 am »
They probably had a driver waiting with the SUV, which would make four total.

The 3rd person who is in custody was the driver.  Reported that he was seen going over fences yard to yard.   
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« Reply #531 on: December 03, 2015, 03:14:42 am »
Doesn't everyone?   :smokin:

I'm beginning to think that maybe we all should.

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« Reply #532 on: December 03, 2015, 03:14:49 am »
Especially two days after the idiot in the White House informed Americans and the World that Global Warming was a bigger threat to our lives and futures than Islamist Terror.   Did global warming kill 14 innocent souls in San Bernadino today?
How exactly will he explain this episode and glubull warming together?
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« Reply #533 on: December 03, 2015, 03:14:51 am »
soft target of opportunity.

Open post.

Sorry Islam, you can't have America. Tone down the ordinance and come up with better ideas than the west, maybe then we'll talk.

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« Reply #534 on: December 03, 2015, 03:15:27 am »
This got me thinking. What are qualifications to be a terrorist? I mean, is there a screening process? Do you get an interview? Does senior management take you to lunch, check you out?

You know when the ad reads "...experience with self detonation required," they're not getting the cream of the crop.


Are you thinking of applying?  :silly:

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« Reply #535 on: December 03, 2015, 03:16:47 am »
I notice this big time, for there hasn't been very much focus on Lost Angeles, our 2nd largest city. I think the terrorists' point is yes, we can do it there too.

And they certainly have a diverse population within which to mingle. LA is for instance the largest place for Iranians, out side Iran. Not saying this is Iranian, BTW--just portraying the multi-cultural aspect of this huge metro area.


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« Reply #536 on: December 03, 2015, 03:16:52 am »
They didn't just "not build them correctly."  They forgot to put explosives in the pipes.

And, as someone else pointed out, dummy bombs still make for good diversions, and have the added benefit of not accidentally blowing up in your own face.

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« Reply #537 on: December 03, 2015, 03:19:44 am »
In this day of social media and 24 hour news cycles, any city can play a story like a major big city. Drive from LA to San Bernardino and you wouldn't know you left one town and entered another except the signs and the time it takes, it is all just one big sprawl. So it is a major media hub.
Second largest metro area in the nation; they had reporters on scene in helicopters in a few minutes.
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« Reply #538 on: December 03, 2015, 03:21:39 am »
So this murderer targeted a Christmas party, and it's just "workplace violence" for some? 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/suspect-involved-calif-massacre-identified-article-1.2453471

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“I haven’t heard anything. He worked in a county office,” Farook's dad told The News. “He’s married and has a kid. We’re estranged because my wife got the divorce, and they are together. She doesn’t want to see me.”

Farook said he hasn’t seen his son in some time.

“He was very religious. He would go to work, come back, go to pray, come back. He’s Muslim.”
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« Reply #539 on: December 03, 2015, 03:22:37 am »
I clearly understand your point, sink.
Horrific? Certainly.
Terrorism? Almost certainly.
Jihad sympathizers? Likely.
A formal cell of ISIS or similar? Maybe not.

Perhaps the "trigger" was the fact that the Department offended and insulted Sayd's religion by sponsoring a Christmas celebration and he recruited two other ghouls to avenge that insult to Allah.   He went in to denounce the managers and co-workers for not acceding to his demands.

Who knows?  It could be workplace AND religion related.   14 people are dead because of these assholes and their corrupt religion doubtless DID play a role regardless if they were part of a larger network or not.

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« Reply #540 on: December 03, 2015, 03:23:03 am »
kevindavis asks above:
"So what is your solution? Kick all of the muslims out?"

In a word.... yes.

Return them to dar al-islam.

Do you understand what that term describes?

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« Reply #541 on: December 03, 2015, 03:23:23 am »


Syed Farook


Suspect ID'd in San Bernardino Massacre as Syed Farook

Syed Farook is one of three suspected gunmen who attacked a center for the disabled, killing 14 and injuring more on Wednesday.

CORONA, CALIFORNIA — Law enforcement officials have identified Syed Farook as one of the suspected shooters who attacked a center for the disabled in San Bernardino, California, according to NBC News. The Daily Beast has learned that the police have just executed a search warrant at a Redlands, California address—an address that belongs to Farook’s family.

Police pursued a car leaving from the Redlands address, Chief Jarrod Baraugan said at a Wednesday evening press conference. A male and female suspect were inside the car, and both of them have been killed. Both of the suspects were armed with assault rifles and handguns, Baraugan said. Police have apprehended a third man, but have not identified his relation to the attacks yet.

more at:   http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/02/police-id-suspect-in-san-bernardino-massacre-as-syed-farook.html

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« Reply #542 on: December 03, 2015, 03:23:55 am »
It certainly could have been spurred by some perceived workplace humiliation or slight but the attack on a Christmas celebration - and the enlistment of co-conspirators to conduct the murder - leads me to believe that the perceived "insult" was to the perp's religious demands and the attack on a Christian event merely satisfied a number of pathological grievances. 

I am not fully confident that this story is going to be presented in an unvarnished manner.   The Democrats have far too much political capital invested in their feckless approach to our security priorities.   Events like this can be game changers in Electoral politics and the Dems are up to their asses in appeasement and dereliction of duty.
That was my first reaction. The idea of multiple attacks on our nation here at home, after this many years of Obama drives the point across, that his policies for national security simply have failed.

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« Reply #543 on: December 03, 2015, 03:24:24 am »


Syed Farook

Taking a selfie in the mirror.  Doesn't he know how to take a selfie directly with the phone?

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« Reply #544 on: December 03, 2015, 03:25:42 am »
kevindavis asks above:
"So what is your solution? Kick all of the muslims out?"

In a word.... yes.

Return them to dar al-islam.

Do you understand what that term describes?


Even American Citizens who are Muslim??
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« Reply #545 on: December 03, 2015, 03:26:27 am »
Second largest metro area in the nation; they had reporters on scene in helicopters in a few minutes.

I wonder how long before news organizations give up helicopters for drones? Drones get excellent aerial photography.

The only helicopters I see any more in the sky above New York City are police copters.

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« Reply #546 on: December 03, 2015, 03:26:59 am »
Goodnight you all!

Thank you flowers, I've been reading through it all to catch up and you have done a great job of updating us!  I appreciate the effort! 

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« Reply #547 on: December 03, 2015, 03:27:13 am »
I wonder how long before news organizations give up helicopters for drones? Drones get excellent aerial photography.

The only helicopters I see any more in the sky above New York City are police copters.

That'll probably take several years of wooing the FAA.  Right now drones give the FAA the vapors.

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« Reply #548 on: December 03, 2015, 03:27:37 am »
I'm concerned about the rise of militant Islam among prisoners - primarily African American -  in our jails and correctional institutions.   These are dangerous sociopaths to begin with and the persecution ideology of radical Islam appeals to that diseased mindset.
We will be letting them out into our civilian populations, since we lack resources and sense to keep them behind bars.
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« Reply #549 on: December 03, 2015, 03:27:45 am »
Perhaps the "trigger" was the fact that the Department offended and insulted Sayd's religion by sponsoring a Christmas celebration and he recruited two other ghouls to avenge that insult to Allah.   He went in to denounce the managers and co-workers for not acceding to his demands.

Who knows?  It could be workplace AND religion related.   14 people are dead because of these assholes and their corrupt religion doubtless DID play a role regardless if they were part of a larger network or not.

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